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Thread started 10/17/03 5:53am

Raspberry

The Rules for Being Human

1. You will receive a body
You may like it or hate it, but it will be yours for the entire period this time round.

2. You will learn lessons
You are enrolled in a full-time informal school called life. Each day you will have the opportunity to learn lessons. You may like the lessons or think them irrelevant or stupid.

3. There are no mistakes, only lessons
Growth is a process of trial and error; experimentation. The 'failed' experiments are as much a part of th eprocess as the experiment that ultimately 'works'.

4. A lesson is repeated until it is learned
A lesson will be repeated in various forms until you have learned it. When you have learned it, you can go on to the next lesson.

5. Learning lessons does not end
There is no part in life that does not contain lessons. If you are alive, there are lessons to be learned.

6. 'There' is no better than 'here'
When your 'there' has become 'here', you will simply obtain another 'there' that will again look better from 'here'.

7. Others are merely mirrors of you
You cannot love or hate something about another person unless it reflects something you love or hate about yourself.

8. What you make of your life is up to you
You have all the tools and resources you need. What you do with them is up to you. The choice is yours.

9. Your answers lie inside you
The answers to Life's questions lie inside you. All you need to do is look, listen and trust.

10. You will forget all of this.

11. You can remember it whenever you want




I recently came across this and it's been thought-provoking to me. I think I can understand and agree with all of the points but I'm having a difficult time with 6 and, to a lesser extent, 8.

From my perspective they make sense, but I can't help feeling that someone who has not had the priviledged life that most of us here have had would not agree.

Any thoughts?
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Reply #1 posted 10/17/03 5:54am

Cloudbuster

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I want to be a rubberband girl.
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Reply #2 posted 10/17/03 5:54am

PREDOMINANT

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oh oh?
Happy is he who finds out the causes for things.Virgil (70-19 BC). Virgil was such a lying bastard!
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Reply #3 posted 10/17/03 6:48am

MartyMcFly

6. 'There' is no better than 'here'
When your 'there' has become 'here', you will simply obtain another 'there' that will again look better from 'here'.


Sounds like something from a recent P song don't it?
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Reply #4 posted 10/17/03 6:51am

Raspberry

MartyMcFly said:

6. 'There' is no better than 'here'
When your 'there' has become 'here', you will simply obtain another 'there' that will again look better from 'here'.


Sounds like something from a recent P song don't it?

lol
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Reply #5 posted 10/17/03 7:05am

Slave2daGroove

I love this, thanks for posting it.
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Reply #6 posted 10/17/03 7:12am

teller

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Raspberry said:

I recently came across this and it's been thought-provoking to me. I think I can understand and agree with all of the points but I'm having a difficult time with 6 and, to a lesser extent, 8.

From my perspective they make sense, but I can't help feeling that someone who has not had the priviledged life that most of us here have had would not agree.

Any thoughts?

What others achieve is interesting, but its not the standard by which you must measure yourself. Everyone's game is different. If anything, someone who is further along a path that is relevant to your game is a potential source of knowledge that you can use.
Fear is the mind-killer.
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Reply #7 posted 10/17/03 8:36am

Byron

1. You will receive a body
You may like it or hate it, but it will be yours for the entire period this time round.

So take care of it, nourish it, feed it in a healthy manner.

2. You will learn lessons
You are enrolled in a full-time informal school called life. Each day you will have the opportunity to learn lessons. You may like the lessons or think them irrelevant or stupid.

Every moment, every experience, is a beautiful opportunity to learn more about yourself, more about life. Never have regret about anything...ever.

3. There are no mistakes, only lessons
Growth is a process of trial and error; experimentation. The 'failed' experiments are as much a part of th eprocess as the experiment that ultimately 'works'.

The 'failures' have/hold their purposes within your life as well... nod...the only "mistake" would be to not value and appreciate those purposes.

4. A lesson is repeated until it is learned
A lesson will be repeated in various forms until you have learned it. When you have learned it, you can go on to the next lesson.

So true...

5. Learning lessons does not end
There is no part in life that does not contain lessons. If you are alive, there are lessons to be learned.

True...

6. 'There' is no better than 'here'
When your 'there' has become 'here', you will simply obtain another 'there' that will again look better from 'here'.

Then again...you can't move forward, unless there is a "there" to move forward to..."here" and "there", along with how you view them relative to each other, serve their purposes as well.

7. Others are merely mirrors of you
You cannot love or hate something about another person unless it reflects something you love or hate about yourself.

In other words...don't judge; understand.

8. What you make of your life is up to you
You have all the tools and resources you need. What you do with them is up to you. The choice is yours.

worship Nothing controls who you are, how you act/react, what you feel, or who you become...except you. Spending time manipulating things outside of yourself is a mistake...

9. Your answers lie inside you
The answers to Life's questions lie inside you. All you need to do is look, listen and trust.

Most importantly, trust yourself to be strong enough to handle every decision you make...fear of "failing" can be paralyzing...and can lead you in a direction of seeking safety, instead of seeking life.

10. You will forget all of this.

11. You can remember it whenever you want

nod Still in the process of remembering as we speak... rose
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Reply #8 posted 10/17/03 8:43am

VinaBlue

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Adding this page to my favorites. Byron, I love your responses. rose
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Reply #9 posted 10/17/03 8:54am

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It says, "there are no mistakes, only lessons." Just wondering, but what if you purposely killed someone? Is that a mistake or a lesson?
"I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven
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Reply #10 posted 10/17/03 9:57am

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VinaBlue said:

Adding this page to my favorites. Byron, I love your responses. rose

thanks for that idea hun...
i think this is wonderful
thanks for reminding us what life is really about touched
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Reply #11 posted 10/17/03 10:12am

daned

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12.Daned is special
You must let him feel you up

13.Daned is thirsty
You really ought to buy him a nice 4 pack. Guiness, Hoegarden or Budvar.
"You know, you're the classic example of the inverse ratio between the size of the mouth and the size of the brain"
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Reply #12 posted 10/17/03 10:17am

slm4m

daned said:

12.Daned is special
You must let him feel you up

13.Daned is thirsty
You really ought to buy him a nice 4 pack. Guiness, Hoegarden or Budvar.


ha, ha
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Reply #13 posted 10/17/03 10:58am

Raspberry

Slave2daGroove said:

I love this, thanks for posting it.

Thank you Slave2daGroove biggrin
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Reply #14 posted 10/17/03 10:59am

Raspberry

teller said:

Raspberry said:

I recently came across this and it's been thought-provoking to me. I think I can understand and agree with all of the points but I'm having a difficult time with 6 and, to a lesser extent, 8.

From my perspective they make sense, but I can't help feeling that someone who has not had the priviledged life that most of us here have had would not agree.

Any thoughts?

What others achieve is interesting, but its not the standard by which you must measure yourself. Everyone's game is different. If anything, someone who is further along a path that is relevant to your game is a potential source of knowledge that you can use.

Thanks Teller ... I'm still not sure I understand though sad
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Reply #15 posted 10/17/03 11:00am

Raspberry

Byron ... thank you - as always very interesting and insightful hug
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Reply #16 posted 10/17/03 11:04am

luv4u

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This is good, but true. Who knows what or who I will be in my next life.
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REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince
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Reply #17 posted 10/17/03 11:31am

summerdawn

Byron said:

lots of great things


Byron, you never cease to amaze.

P.S. I love your avvie!
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Reply #18 posted 10/17/03 6:47pm

rdhull

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everyone's free to wear sunscren
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #19 posted 10/17/03 6:50pm

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rdhull said:

everyone's free to wear sunscren



I loved that "song", I wanna hear it!!
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Reply #20 posted 10/17/03 6:50pm

althom

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Cloudbuster said:

I want to be a rubberband girl.

One out of two isn't bad. hmm
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Reply #21 posted 10/17/03 7:11pm

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Thanks, Raspberry. smile I appreciate your sharing this, so please don't take what I'm about to say as any criticism of you whatsoever. What I want to say is more about my personal beliefs and our society than anything else.
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Well, these rules are a nice, sweet, compact list--and even true, more or less. But I really dislike this modern day habit humankind has developed, of compartmentalizing life for ALL people into "the way you should think/live" types of rules and lists like this. Life can not be reduced to a pop-psychology top-10 list...

In my opinion, there are many ways of living and viewing the world that can bring satisfaction. Not all of these ways are full of metaphoric light and sunshine. Recognizing negative world views--acknowledging the pain and suffering people go through, for example--is not a bad thing or something we need to stop doing. In fact, admitting such things is the path to healing (again, just my opinion, I'm no Dalai Lama smile).

For example, some of my clients are from countries such as Iraq, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia and Somalia: war-torn countries where people personally experienced or witnessed amazing atrocities, the like of which most of us could never comprehend. They lived in refugee camps for years until they were allowed to come to the US or Western Europe. If I busted out a list like this with, for example, the Iraqi client of mine and her husband who were tortured by the military on a daily basis and still suffer from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder to the point where they hide under tables when they hear certain noises...well...telling them that "here" (the U.S.) is no better than "there" (Iraq) might seem insulting. Telling someone who watched their parents be shot that their suffering "is up to them" might be a bit insensitive.

I probably sound very cynical and negative with all of this--but truly, at heart I am not. I am a very loving, giving human being. But what I want to say most of all here is that acknowledging and respecting someone's pain and the healing process is a big part of life, and not to be swept under the rug with euphemisms about being in control of our feelings and life lessons. There is always something good that can come of even the most evil conditions--but we can't pretend the bad is so easily dismissed.
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Reply #22 posted 10/18/03 1:45am

Raspberry

AnotherLoverToo said:

Thanks, Raspberry. smile I appreciate your sharing this, so please don't take what I'm about to say as any criticism of you whatsoever. What I want to say is more about my personal beliefs and our society than anything else.
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Well, these rules are a nice, sweet, compact list--and even true, more or less. But I really dislike this modern day habit humankind has developed, of compartmentalizing life for ALL people into "the way you should think/live" types of rules and lists like this. Life can not be reduced to a pop-psychology top-10 list...

In my opinion, there are many ways of living and viewing the world that can bring satisfaction. Not all of these ways are full of metaphoric light and sunshine. Recognizing negative world views--acknowledging the pain and suffering people go through, for example--is not a bad thing or something we need to stop doing. In fact, admitting such things is the path to healing (again, just my opinion, I'm no Dalai Lama smile).

For example, some of my clients are from countries such as Iraq, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia and Somalia: war-torn countries where people personally experienced or witnessed amazing atrocities, the like of which most of us could never comprehend. They lived in refugee camps for years until they were allowed to come to the US or Western Europe. If I busted out a list like this with, for example, the Iraqi client of mine and her husband who were tortured by the military on a daily basis and still suffer from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder to the point where they hide under tables when they hear certain noises...well...telling them that "here" (the U.S.) is no better than "there" (Iraq) might seem insulting. Telling someone who watched their parents be shot that their suffering "is up to them" might be a bit insensitive.

I probably sound very cynical and negative with all of this--but truly, at heart I am not. I am a very loving, giving human being. But what I want to say most of all here is that acknowledging and respecting someone's pain and the healing process is a big part of life, and not to be swept under the rug with euphemisms about being in control of our feelings and life lessons. There is always something good that can come of even the most evil conditions--but we can't pretend the bad is so easily dismissed.

Thanks AnotherLover ... you and I are of the same mind on this.

This year I have been attending Healing workshops on a quest to learn more about spirituality and to try to put something positive back into the world. At the last workshop I was given these rules and I do understand and accept most of them but am having problems with 6 and 8.

Your post has helped me to clarify in my mind exactly why I am having difficulty with them. I'm glad I'm not the only one smile

I didn't know when I created this thread whether anyone would be able to put a different perspective on them so that I could understand the message I seem to be missing. I think Byron has found the true intention of the Rules, but your post expresses the doubts I have very eloquently.

Thanks AnotherLover hug
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Reply #23 posted 10/18/03 2:01am

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It's Catch 22. No matter what you do, it all comes back to yourself. sad
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