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Thread started 10/05/03 7:24pm

namepeace

30something and single . . .

It seems that over the course of the last year much of the media has focused on the fact that women in their 30s are facing the "crisis" of being childless and single. I have seen a lot of "experts" on TV and in print touting theories of why women can't find a mate, are stood up at the altar, etc.

Some men have similar problems, too, however. For whatever reason or another, some men in their 30s still find themselves "childless" and single. For some of them, at least, it's the last place they wanted to be. So this phenomenon is not unique to the fairer sex, at least that's the way I see it.

Do any of you have any theories on this subject? Or thoughts? Or rants? Or rebuttals?

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Reply #1 posted 10/05/03 7:27pm

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i'd just like to know if a good single woman like me will ever find love now that i am in my 30's and single WITH children sigh
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Reply #2 posted 10/05/03 7:34pm

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whatchu look like?
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Reply #3 posted 10/05/03 7:39pm

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4nowneway said:

whatchu look like?


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Reply #4 posted 10/05/03 7:40pm

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Well, I think the media and people in general tend to focus on 30-something single women more than men, because there is more social stigma attached to being single and female. If a man is single, he's often seen as being that way by choice, as not wanting to settle down, and wanting to be "free". Whereas, women are usually viewed as being single involuntarily, only because no one wants her, and that there must be something "wrong" with her. Older single men are referred to as "bachelors", while single women are called "spinsters" or "old maids"--definitely a less favorable term.

I believe that often, both men and women can be unrealistic in their expectations of a potential mate. Many times, we focus on attaining relationships with people who embody the physical or economical ideal, rather than intellectual, emotional or spiritual compatibility. Many of us have been subconsciously trained to think that anything less than perfection is "settling".

Last, but not least, I think many of us are drawn to the "unattainable", thus setting ourselves up for failure and for being alone again (naturally wink). We are trying to resolve past issues, and find ourselves repeating the same 'mistakes' over and over again. We find ourselves attracted to the same type of person time and again--someone who is not necessarily "right" for us, yet we try to make them right, to finally "win" and resolve that abandonment or self-esteem issue.
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Reply #5 posted 10/05/03 7:43pm

Christopher

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AnotherLoverToo said:

Well i guess it would be nice if i could touch your body i know not everybody has got a body like you..." horny

omfg
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Reply #6 posted 10/05/03 7:44pm

MizzHeavenly

lol my sister is 25 and single...she will probably be 45 and single too lol
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Reply #7 posted 10/05/03 7:47pm

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I think it's harder to find people who want to make long-term commitments these days. We live in such a fast-paced world, where things that are "disposable" are the norm. That includes relationships.

The way we relate to one another is changing, and it seems to be more likely that we will each spend time living on our own at some point during our lives.

I do feel sorry for people in their 30s and 40s who wished they had children, regardless of whether they're male or female. But I don't think it's a right, or a given, that all people should.

I don't have children and am in my late 30's. If I'd had them earlier in life, when I was married, I'm sure I would've been a great parent. But now I'm older, I don't want them. That seems to be something people find difficult to accept.

I find my life is fulfilling enough without children and that I enjoy far more independence and freedom than my friends.

My view is that I try not to concentrate on what I've not got, but on what I do have. Not always easy, but it helps.
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Reply #8 posted 10/05/03 7:47pm

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MizzHeavenly said:

lol my sister is 25 and single...she will probably be 45 and single too lol


maybe she just needs a cool hip makeover and stylish threads confused
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Reply #9 posted 10/05/03 7:49pm

MizzHeavenly

Christopher said:

MizzHeavenly said:

lol my sister is 25 and single...she will probably be 45 and single too lol


maybe she just needs a cool hip makeover and stylish threads confused




The most beautiful girl in the world... does not need a make-over...she just needs a boyfriend.
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Reply #10 posted 10/05/03 7:50pm

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Christopher said:

AnotherLoverToo said:

[color=red:6221df9c90:3d7a38cfeb]Well i guess it would be nice if i could touch your body i know not everybody has got a body like you..." horny

omfg



Ooooh, but I gotta think twice before I give my heart away and I know all the games ya play--because I play them, too!
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Reply #11 posted 10/05/03 7:51pm

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4nowneway said:

whatchu look like?

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Reply #12 posted 10/05/03 7:51pm

Christopher

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MizzHeavenly said:

Christopher said:

MizzHeavenly said:

lol my sister is 25 and single...she will probably be 45 and single too lol


maybe she just needs a cool hip makeover and stylish threads confused




The most beautiful girl in the world... does not need a make-over...she just needs a boyfriend.

i know i was trying to give her the upperhand seeing as im sure shes pretty smile
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Reply #13 posted 10/05/03 7:51pm

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AnotherLoverToo said:

Christopher said:

AnotherLoverToo said:

[color=red:6221df9c90:3d7a38cfeb:681e193087]Well i guess it would be nice if i could touch your body i know not everybody has got a body like you..." horny

omfg



[color=red:3d7a38cfeb:681e193087] Ooooh, but I gotta think twice before I give my heart away and I know all the games ya play--because I play them, too!


check my profile carrie
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Reply #14 posted 10/05/03 7:53pm

AnotherLoverTo
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Christopher said:

AnotherLoverToo said:

Christopher said:

AnotherLoverToo said:

[color=red:6221df9c90:3d7a38cfeb:681e193087:de1af01101]Well i guess it would be nice if i could touch your body i know not everybody has got a body like you..." horny

omfg



[color=red:3d7a38cfeb:681e193087:de1af01101] Ooooh, but I gotta think twice before I give my heart away and I know all the games ya play--because I play them, too!


check my profile carrie


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Reply #15 posted 10/05/03 7:53pm

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Christopher said:

AnotherLoverToo said:

[color=red:6221df9c90:455ffaa56c]Well i guess it would be nice if i could touch your body i know not everybody has got a body like you..." horny

omfg

falloff
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Reply #16 posted 10/05/03 7:53pm

MizzHeavenly

Christopher said:

MizzHeavenly said:

Christopher said:

MizzHeavenly said:

lol my sister is 25 and single...she will probably be 45 and single too lol


maybe she just needs a cool hip makeover and stylish threads confused




The most beautiful girl in the world... does not need a make-over...she just needs a boyfriend.

i know i was trying to give her the upperhand seeing as im sure shes pretty smile



Umm no you do not understand...the orger The most beautiful girl in the world is my sister...ooops the cat is out of the bag.
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Reply #17 posted 10/05/03 7:55pm

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MizzHeavenly said:


The most beautiful girl in the world... does not need a make-over...she just needs a boyfriend.


I thought she had one. confuse
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Reply #18 posted 10/05/03 7:56pm

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althom said:

Christopher said:

AnotherLoverToo said:

[color=red:6221df9c90:455ffaa56c:cdae0de292]Well i guess it would be nice if i could touch your body i know not everybody has got a body like you..." horny

omfg

falloff


You are a slut for cheap laughter, althom mad

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Reply #19 posted 10/05/03 7:56pm

MizzHeavenly

matt said:

MizzHeavenly said:


The most beautiful girl in the world... does not need a make-over...she just needs a boyfriend.


I thought she had one. confuse



who you talking about fedex guy or ups guy...her and her damn shipping companies rolleyes Whos next Airborne Express lol
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Reply #20 posted 10/05/03 7:58pm

Christopher

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MizzHeavenly said:

Christopher said:

MizzHeavenly said:

Christopher said:

MizzHeavenly said:

lol my sister is 25 and single...she will probably be 45 and single too lol


maybe she just needs a cool hip makeover and stylish threads confused




The most beautiful girl in the world... does not need a make-over...she just needs a boyfriend.

i know i was trying to give her the upperhand seeing as im sure shes pretty smile



Umm no you do not understand...the orger The most beautiful girl in the world is my sister...ooops the cat is out of the bag.


omggg...ggg i love jess aka most beautiful girl
shes my org homie! goodtimes smile
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Reply #21 posted 10/05/03 8:00pm

MizzHeavenly

Christopher said:

MizzHeavenly said:

Christopher said:

MizzHeavenly said:

Christopher said:

MizzHeavenly said:

lol my sister is 25 and single...she will probably be 45 and single too lol


maybe she just needs a cool hip makeover and stylish threads confused




The most beautiful girl in the world... does not need a make-over...she just needs a boyfriend.

i know i was trying to give her the upperhand seeing as im sure shes pretty smile



Umm no you do not understand...the orger The most beautiful girl in the world is my sister...ooops the cat is out of the bag.


omggg...ggg i love jess aka most beautiful girl
shes my org homie! goodtimes smile




She's the bomb nod
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Reply #22 posted 10/05/03 8:00pm

namepeace

AnotherLoverToo said:

Well, I think the media and people in general tend to focus on 30-something single women more than men, because there is more social stigma attached to being single and female. If a man is single, he's often seen as being that way by choice, as not wanting to settle down, and wanting to be "free". Whereas, women are usually viewed as being single involuntarily, only because no one wants her, and that there must be something "wrong" with her. Older single men are referred to as "bachelors", while single women are called "spinsters" or "old maids"--definitely a less favorable term.

I believe that often, both men and women can be unrealistic in their expectations of a potential mate. Many times, we focus on attaining relationships with people who embody the physical or economical ideal, rather than intellectual, emotional or spiritual compatibility. Many of us have been subconsciously trained to think that anything less than perfection is "settling".

Last, but not least, I think many of us are drawn to the "unattainable", thus setting ourselves up for failure and for being alone again (naturally wink). We are trying to resolve past issues, and find ourselves repeating the same 'mistakes' over and over again. We find ourselves attracted to the same type of person time and again--someone who is not necessarily "right" for us, yet we try to make them right, to finally "win" and resolve that abandonment or self-esteem issue.
[This message was edited Sun Oct 5 19:52:36 PDT 2003 by AnotherLoverToo]


Girl, we gotta get you a bible and a Lexus, because u r a preacher tonite!
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Reply #23 posted 10/05/03 8:03pm

AnotherLoverTo
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namepeace said:


Girl, we gotta get you a bible and a Lexus, because u r a preacher tonite!


wink Pass the collection plate 'round, my friend, let's see what I get!
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Reply #24 posted 10/05/03 8:03pm

matt

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MizzHeavenly said:

matt said:

MizzHeavenly said:


The most beautiful girl in the world... does not need a make-over...she just needs a boyfriend.


I thought she had one. confuse



who you talking about fedex guy or ups guy...her and her damn shipping companies rolleyes Whos next Airborne Express lol


Not the UPS guy... I remember when she told me about that relationship ending. And I have only a vague memory of her posting about the FedEx guy. But I thought she just recently posted something about her current boyfriend.
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Reply #25 posted 10/05/03 8:08pm

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namepeace said:

For whatever reason or another, some men in their 30s still find themselves "childless" and single. For some of them, at least, it's the last place they wanted to be.


Speaking only for myself (25-year-old male), I don't want to have kids. And if "single" means unmarried, well, I don't plan to get married again after my divorce is final.
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Reply #26 posted 10/05/03 8:09pm

althom

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AnotherLoverToo said:

althom said:

Christopher said:

AnotherLoverToo said:

[color=red:6221df9c90:455ffaa56c:cdae0de292:335b3162c8]Well i guess it would be nice if i could touch your body i know not everybody has got a body like you..." horny

omfg

falloff


You are a slut for cheap laughter, althom mad

rolleyes

talk to the hand

I never thought you were cheap. eek
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Reply #27 posted 10/05/03 8:12pm

applekisses

AnotherLoverToo said:

Well, I think the media and people in general tend to focus on 30-something single women more than men, because there is more social stigma attached to being single and female. If a man is single, he's often seen as being that way by choice, as not wanting to settle down, and wanting to be "free". Whereas, women are usually viewed as being single involuntarily, only because no one wants her, and that there must be something "wrong" with her. Older single men are referred to as "bachelors", while single women are called "spinsters" or "old maids"--definitely a less favorable term.

I believe that often, both men and women can be unrealistic in their expectations of a potential mate. Many times, we focus on attaining relationships with people who embody the physical or economical ideal, rather than intellectual, emotional or spiritual compatibility. Many of us have been subconsciously trained to think that anything less than perfection is "settling".

Last, but not least, I think many of us are drawn to the "unattainable", thus setting ourselves up for failure and for being alone again (naturally wink). We are trying to resolve past issues, and find ourselves repeating the same 'mistakes' over and over again. We find ourselves attracted to the same type of person time and again--someone who is not necessarily "right" for us, yet we try to make them right, to finally "win" and resolve that abandonment or self-esteem issue.
[This message was edited Sun Oct 5 19:52:36 PDT 2003 by AnotherLoverToo]


omfg And you've hit the nail on the head HOW many times? biggrin

hug

I'm glad you're here, sweetie.
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Reply #28 posted 10/05/03 8:12pm

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Me, i love being a bachelor.
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Reply #29 posted 10/05/03 8:15pm

AnotherLoverTo
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althom said:

AnotherLoverToo said:

althom said:

Christopher said:

AnotherLoverToo said:

[color=red:6221df9c90:455ffaa56c:cdae0de292:335b3162c8:61c7ede8ec:9452e1fb4c]Well i guess it would be nice if i could touch your body i know not everybody has got a body like you..." horny

omfg

falloff


You are a slut for cheap laughter, althom mad

rolleyes

talk to the hand

I never thought. eek


Yes, that's quite obvious!

Christopher is the cheap one, silly porn fiend! mad
[This message was edited Sun Oct 5 20:17:54 PDT 2003 by AnotherLoverToo]
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