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Reply #30 posted 10/06/03 8:48am

Raspberry

righteous1 said:


Umm I've always digged S&R and I saw a telly special on them some years ago and they showed the inside of there home and the tigers seemed to live with them, I mean they had beds and everything, the tigers have anything they wanted

... everything they wanted except freedom and dignity ... wink ... I'm sure the tigers weren't happy, even with a bed and the run of a beautiful house.
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Reply #31 posted 10/06/03 8:54am

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Raspberry said:

righteous1 said:


Umm I've always digged S&R and I saw a telly special on them some years ago and they showed the inside of there home and the tigers seemed to live with them, I mean they had beds and everything, the tigers have anything they wanted

... everything they wanted except freedom and dignity ... wink ... I'm sure the tigers weren't happy, even with a bed and the run of a beautiful house.

Exactly right Raspberry. Tigers do not "want" beds and a big mansion. Animals do not have the same material needs as humans. They live to live.
Just somewhere in the middle,
Not too good and not too bad.
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Reply #32 posted 10/06/03 11:36am

bananacologne

Siegfried & Roy Show Canceled Indefinitely
By ADAM GOLDMAN, Associated Press Writer

LAS VEGAS - Famed performer Roy Horn of the Siegfried & Roy duo remained in critical condition Monday after being mauled by a tiger, and the show has been canceled indefinitely, officials said.

About 200 fans and show employees stood outside the hospital at University Medical Center Sunday night, where Horn, 59, is being treated. He suffered a severe wound to his neck when the 7-year-old male tiger named Montecore attacked Friday night in front of hundreds of people. Officials said Sunday he had improved and could move his hands and feet.

With the show's future uncertain, about 267 employees are out of a job.

MGM Mirage officials said the show was "closed indefinitely."

They added that even if Horn recovers, it's unclear whether he would ever be able to perform again in the rigorous show.

"We are not going to sugarcoat this," MGM Mirage spokesman Alan Feldman said.

Show employees were wondering if the company would pay out the rest of their contracts.

"We are worried about him, but we also basically lost our jobs," said 42-year-old Mary Bryan, a single mother who worked with the acrobats. "We gave this show our heart and soul. It's awful we have to think about money at a time like this."

MGM Mirage officials have promised to help employees land new jobs.

Without the show, the fate of the tigers is also unknown. Montecore continues to be quarantined at the hotel, officials said.

Horn had never been injured during a show before, "not a scratch, not by an animal," said Bernie Yuman, the pair's longtime manager, who added none of the 63 exotic cats "have ever shown aggression on stage."

Horn, along with longtime partner Siegfried Fischbacher, have been a staple on the Las Vegas Strip for years, performing their magic show to sold-out crowds at The Mirage since 1990.

The illusionists, who put on one of the most well-known and expensive Las Vegas shows with their signature white tigers and lions, signed a lifetime contract with the resort in 2001.

The German-born pair perform six shows a week, 44 weeks per year and have been onstage in Las Vegas for more than 35 years. They have done about 5,700 shows since coming The Mirage in 1990.

www.siegfriedandroy.com
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Reply #33 posted 10/06/03 11:41am

irresistibleb1
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if you would like to view some undercover footage of large cat training methods, here's a link:

http://www.petatv.com/

i'm not saying that those methods were used in S&R's case, but the footage speaks to all of the reasons why the topic of animals in entertainment deserves some serious consideration.
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Reply #34 posted 10/06/03 11:44am

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What's the latest scoop??? Is he going to make it??? Word around my office is that the tiger maybe put down.
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Reply #35 posted 10/06/03 11:49am

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Finess said:

Look the tiger snapped from being treated the way it has been. and it happened, im sorry it did but shit u cannot tame a wild animal to be some kind of amusement to humans.

exactly. sad
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Reply #36 posted 10/06/03 11:57am

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bananacologne said:

Siegfried & Roy Show Canceled Indefinitely
By ADAM GOLDMAN, Associated Press Writer

LAS VEGAS - Famed performer Roy Horn of the Siegfried & Roy duo remained in critical condition Monday after being mauled by a tiger, and the show has been canceled indefinitely, officials said.

About 200 fans and show employees stood outside the hospital at University Medical Center Sunday night, where Horn, 59, is being treated. He suffered a severe wound to his neck when the 7-year-old male tiger named Montecore attacked Friday night in front of hundreds of people. Officials said Sunday he had improved and could move his hands and feet.

With the show's future uncertain, about 267 employees are out of a job.

MGM Mirage officials said the show was "closed indefinitely."

They added that even if Horn recovers, it's unclear whether he would ever be able to perform again in the rigorous show.

"We are not going to sugarcoat this," MGM Mirage spokesman Alan Feldman said.

Show employees were wondering if the company would pay out the rest of their contracts.

"We are worried about him, but we also basically lost our jobs," said 42-year-old Mary Bryan, a single mother who worked with the acrobats. "We gave this show our heart and soul. It's awful we have to think about money at a time like this."

MGM Mirage officials have promised to help employees land new jobs.

Without the show, the fate of the tigers is also unknown. Montecore continues to be quarantined at the hotel, officials said.

Horn had never been injured during a show before, "not a scratch, not by an animal," said Bernie Yuman, the pair's longtime manager, who added none of the 63 exotic cats "have ever shown aggression on stage."

Horn, along with longtime partner Siegfried Fischbacher, have been a staple on the Las Vegas Strip for years, performing their magic show to sold-out crowds at The Mirage since 1990.

The illusionists, who put on one of the most well-known and expensive Las Vegas shows with their signature white tigers and lions, signed a lifetime contract with the resort in 2001.

The German-born pair perform six shows a week, 44 weeks per year and have been onstage in Las Vegas for more than 35 years. They have done about 5,700 shows since coming The Mirage in 1990.

www.siegfriedandroy.com



WOW...that lion is GORGEOUS!
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Reply #37 posted 10/06/03 11:58am

Muse2NOPharaoh

Finess said:

Look the tiger snapped from being treated the way it has been. and it happened, im sorry it did but shit u cannot tame a wild animal to be some kind of amusement to humans.



Ease up my DJ buddy! I am cerain Siegfried and Roy agree with you and also will NOT want the tiger put down. They love those animals very much!
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Reply #38 posted 10/06/03 1:41pm

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luv4u said:

What's the latest scoop??? Is he going to make it??? Word around my office is that the tiger maybe put down.

They BETTER not kill that tiger!!

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Reply #39 posted 10/06/03 1:43pm

bananacologne

applekisses said:

WOW...that lion is GORGEOUS!


Yeah - shame it's probably drugged-up 2 the eyeballs though.
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Reply #40 posted 10/06/03 1:55pm

irresistibleb1
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bananacologne said:

applekisses said:

WOW...that lion is GORGEOUS!


Yeah - shame it's probably drugged-up 2 the eyeballs though.


i was thinking the same thing. sad
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Reply #41 posted 10/06/03 1:55pm

bananacologne

irresistibleb1tch said:

bananacologne said:

applekisses said:

WOW...that lion is GORGEOUS!


Yeah - shame it's probably drugged-up 2 the eyeballs though.


i was thinking the same thing. sad


highfive Im liking u more and more I.B! More Bolly? lol
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Reply #42 posted 10/06/03 1:56pm

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irresistibleb1tch said:

if you would like to view some undercover footage of large cat training methods, here's a link:

http://www.petatv.com/

i'm not saying that those methods were used in S&R's case, but the footage speaks to all of the reasons why the topic of animals in entertainment deserves some serious consideration.




S&R have, in fact, been quite vocal advocates of that cause.
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Reply #43 posted 10/06/03 1:57pm

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FlyingCloudPassenger said:

LittlePill said:

AaronMaximus said:

FlyingCloudPassenger said:

AaronMaximus said:

woot!


You're happy about this?



about one half of Siegfried and Roy getting what's been coming to them for years by those tigers? absolutely.



I agree! evillol



Well, I don't wish them harm. Do I think they are wrong in using animals for entertainment? Yes. They continued a very old and ignorant tradition. Circuses have to be looked at again too. Entertainment from the age of ignorance.

Also, this came at just when there are reports about how Zoo's are very bad for large animals.



I don't wish S&R harm either. But I fully applaud wild animals acting like wild animals.
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Reply #44 posted 10/06/03 2:24pm

irresistibleb1
tch

bananacologne said:

irresistibleb1tch said:

bananacologne said:

applekisses said:

WOW...that lion is GORGEOUS!


Yeah - shame it's probably drugged-up 2 the eyeballs though.


i was thinking the same thing. sad


highfive Im liking u more and more I.B! More Bolly? lol
[This message was edited Mon Oct 6 13:56:08 PDT 2003 by bananacologne]


i'm sad to report that da b1tch is stone cold sober...

but then there's always later... wink martini martini

i appreciate your commitment to "da cause" - you rock, man!
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