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Reply #30 posted 09/23/03 8:17pm

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Working with pregnant women/newborns (as I do), I see women breastfeeding all of the time. It just takes some getting used to--it was weird at first, I was afraid I was violating their privacy and I wasn't sure where to look, lol. It doesn't faze me in the least now, many of my clients (especially my Latino clients) just whip the boobies out in my office while we're meeting, some covering with a blanket, most with just the blouse. In our WIC dept. (Women, Infants and Children, a Federal Nutrition/Food Program for pregnant women and kids up to age 5 yrs), we have this cool poster promoting breastfeeding with a close-up of infant twins feeding at the same time, one at each nipple. It cracks me up everytime nod

Breast milk is best for babies, and babies get hungry at unpredictable times. We need to get over our discomfort, and realize it's OUR problem, not the baby's or the mother's. We claim to be so into "family values", yet we are horrified by this and want to make women go hide themselves away to feed their children? disbelief
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Reply #31 posted 09/23/03 8:22pm

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it doesn't offend me, but why don't they just feed them at home?
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Reply #32 posted 09/23/03 8:23pm

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AaronMaximus said:

it doesn't offend me, but why don't they just feed them at home?


They do. But newborns, especially, often feed every two hours. Or they might fall asleep before they get really full, and then wake up an hour later and want more.

Babies can be finicky eaters... sigh
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Reply #33 posted 09/23/03 8:25pm

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AnotherLoverToo said:

AaronMaximus said:

it doesn't offend me, but why don't they just feed them at home?


They do. But newborns, especially, often feed every two hours. Or they might fall asleep before they get really full, and then wake up an hour later and want more.

Babies can be finicky eaters... sigh




if they're newborns, why are they taking them out?
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Reply #34 posted 09/23/03 8:28pm

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AaronMaximus said:

AnotherLoverToo said:

AaronMaximus said:

it doesn't offend me, but why don't they just feed them at home?


They do. But newborns, especially, often feed every two hours. Or they might fall asleep before they get really full, and then wake up an hour later and want more.

Babies can be finicky eaters... sigh




if they're newborns, why are they taking them out?


OMGGG, you're totally fucking with me, aren't you? lol

They are supposed to get check-ups around 10 days after birth, for one thing. And the mother usually has her postpartum appt. And they MIGHT want to visit some folks to show off the baby to relatives. razz

But electric breast pumps are very nice things--mom can pump at home and feed the baby with a bottle, so the baby is still getting the health benefits of the breastmilk, but mom can have her tits back! mr.green
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Reply #35 posted 09/23/03 8:31pm

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AnotherLoverToo said:

AaronMaximus said:

AnotherLoverToo said:

AaronMaximus said:

it doesn't offend me, but why don't they just feed them at home?


They do. But newborns, especially, often feed every two hours. Or they might fall asleep before they get really full, and then wake up an hour later and want more.

Babies can be finicky eaters... sigh




if they're newborns, why are they taking them out?


OMGGG, you're totally fucking with me, aren't you? lol

They are supposed to get check-ups around 10 days after birth, for one thing. And the mother usually has her postpartum appt. And they MIGHT want to visit some folks to show off the baby to relatives. razz

But electric breast pumps are very nice things--mom can pump at home and feed the baby with a bottle, so the baby is still getting the health benefits of the breastmilk, but mom can have her tits back! mr.green




that's a wonderful alternative.


and i understand that people take the baby out. but if you're going to the doctor's office, relatives' homes, or what have you, that's at least a more appropriate place than in the middle of the mall or the bus station or something.


why would one take a newborn out on a trip that was going to last longer than the times between feedings? and if it must be done, why not go to the car, or something, to do it?


it doesn't bother me that it happens in public places, but i just don't see the need for it.


it's kind of showey. like... we already know you've got a baby. do we need to see the whole production about it? it's a "hey, look at me" type of thing to me, i guess.
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Reply #36 posted 09/23/03 8:38pm

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AaronMaximus said:

AnotherLoverToo said:

AaronMaximus said:

AnotherLoverToo said:

AaronMaximus said:

it doesn't offend me, but why don't they just feed them at home?


They do. But newborns, especially, often feed every two hours. Or they might fall asleep before they get really full, and then wake up an hour later and want more.

Babies can be finicky eaters... sigh




if they're newborns, why are they taking them out?


OMGGG, you're totally fucking with me, aren't you? lol

They are supposed to get check-ups around 10 days after birth, for one thing. And the mother usually has her postpartum appt. And they MIGHT want to visit some folks to show off the baby to relatives. razz

But electric breast pumps are very nice things--mom can pump at home and feed the baby with a bottle, so the baby is still getting the health benefits of the breastmilk, but mom can have her tits back! mr.green




that's a wonderful alternative.


and i understand that people take the baby out. but if you're going to the doctor's office, relatives' homes, or what have you, that's at least a more appropriate place than in the middle of the mall or the bus station or something.


why would one take a newborn out on a trip that was going to last longer than the times between feedings? and if it must be done, why not go to the car, or something, to do it?


it doesn't bother me that it happens in public places, but i just don't see the need for it.


it's kind of showey. like... we already know you've got a baby. do we need to see the whole production about it? it's a "hey, look at me" type of thing to me, i guess.


Well, Aaron, I think that unless a person experiences a baby in their lives full-time, it IS difficult to understand. But the best explanation I think I can give you is to say that when a baby is hungry and screaming, it is instinctive to make it want to stop crying and you'll do almost anything to make him/her stop. It's also a little like having to take a dump or a piss...maybe you went before you left, but depending upon what you ate or your nerves, or the day in general, you may have to go again--sooner than you ever expected! So, sometimes you can hold it, but when ya gotta go, ya gotta go, whether it's in the mall or the bus station or wherever! biggrin

Babies don't know about the social niceties in life, obviously. Women in our country do understand that there is certain etiquette about these things, though, and my experience has been that most breastfeeding women are pretty subtle about it. Most of the time, you wouldn't even know it's happening. Sure, there are a few who are very blatant, but I almost never see that.
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Reply #37 posted 09/23/03 8:42pm

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AnotherLoverToo said:

AaronMaximus said:

AnotherLoverToo said:

AaronMaximus said:

AnotherLoverToo said:

AaronMaximus said:

it doesn't offend me, but why don't they just feed them at home?


They do. But newborns, especially, often feed every two hours. Or they might fall asleep before they get really full, and then wake up an hour later and want more.

Babies can be finicky eaters... sigh




if they're newborns, why are they taking them out?


OMGGG, you're totally fucking with me, aren't you? lol

They are supposed to get check-ups around 10 days after birth, for one thing. And the mother usually has her postpartum appt. And they MIGHT want to visit some folks to show off the baby to relatives. razz

But electric breast pumps are very nice things--mom can pump at home and feed the baby with a bottle, so the baby is still getting the health benefits of the breastmilk, but mom can have her tits back! mr.green




that's a wonderful alternative.


and i understand that people take the baby out. but if you're going to the doctor's office, relatives' homes, or what have you, that's at least a more appropriate place than in the middle of the mall or the bus station or something.


why would one take a newborn out on a trip that was going to last longer than the times between feedings? and if it must be done, why not go to the car, or something, to do it?


it doesn't bother me that it happens in public places, but i just don't see the need for it.


it's kind of showey. like... we already know you've got a baby. do we need to see the whole production about it? it's a "hey, look at me" type of thing to me, i guess.


Well, Aaron, I think that unless a person experiences a baby in their lives full-time, it IS difficult to understand. But the best explanation I think I can give you is to say that when a baby is hungry and screaming, it is instinctive to make it want to stop crying and you'll do almost anything to make him/her stop. It's also a little like having to take a dump or a piss...maybe you went before you left, but depending upon what you ate or your nerves, or the day in general, you may have to go again--sooner than you ever expected! So, sometimes you can hold it, but when ya gotta go, ya gotta go, whether it's in the mall or the bus station or wherever! biggrin

Babies don't know about the social niceties in life, obviously. Women in our country do understand that there is certain etiquette about these things, though, and my experience has been that most breastfeeding women are pretty subtle about it. Most of the time, you wouldn't even know it's happening. Sure, there are a few who are very blatant, but I almost never see that.



i understand all of that. and i agree, most of the breast-feeding women i've known are discreet as well.


what i don't understand, though, is if you have a newborn baby that's on such an erratic feeding schedule, then why are you out somewhere with it in public? it's not old enough to be out with you at the mall, or on the train (dear god, the germs!), or what have you.


the grocery store, i can see. but some of the other places i've seen it... it seems a bit bizarre that the woman would have a newborn there in the first place. and i HAVE seen women make a production out of it. it just strikes me as odd.


but as i said, it doesn't disturb me to see it, and i fully agree that it should be allowed. but i think people should put a little thought into where they're going to be and how long, and try to find someplace discreet to do it, instead of on the subway or something...
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Reply #38 posted 09/23/03 8:54pm

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AaronMaximus said:

AnotherLoverToo said:

AaronMaximus said:

AnotherLoverToo said:

AaronMaximus said:

AnotherLoverToo said:

AaronMaximus said:

it doesn't offend me, but why don't they just feed them at home?


They do. But newborns, especially, often feed every two hours. Or they might fall asleep before they get really full, and then wake up an hour later and want more.

Babies can be finicky eaters... sigh




if they're newborns, why are they taking them out?


OMGGG, you're totally fucking with me, aren't you? lol

They are supposed to get check-ups around 10 days after birth, for one thing. And the mother usually has her postpartum appt. And they MIGHT want to visit some folks to show off the baby to relatives. razz

But electric breast pumps are very nice things--mom can pump at home and feed the baby with a bottle, so the baby is still getting the health benefits of the breastmilk, but mom can have her tits back! mr.green




that's a wonderful alternative.


and i understand that people take the baby out. but if you're going to the doctor's office, relatives' homes, or what have you, that's at least a more appropriate place than in the middle of the mall or the bus station or something.


why would one take a newborn out on a trip that was going to last longer than the times between feedings? and if it must be done, why not go to the car, or something, to do it?


it doesn't bother me that it happens in public places, but i just don't see the need for it.


it's kind of showey. like... we already know you've got a baby. do we need to see the whole production about it? it's a "hey, look at me" type of thing to me, i guess.


Well, Aaron, I think that unless a person experiences a baby in their lives full-time, it IS difficult to understand. But the best explanation I think I can give you is to say that when a baby is hungry and screaming, it is instinctive to make it want to stop crying and you'll do almost anything to make him/her stop. It's also a little like having to take a dump or a piss...maybe you went before you left, but depending upon what you ate or your nerves, or the day in general, you may have to go again--sooner than you ever expected! So, sometimes you can hold it, but when ya gotta go, ya gotta go, whether it's in the mall or the bus station or wherever! biggrin

Babies don't know about the social niceties in life, obviously. Women in our country do understand that there is certain etiquette about these things, though, and my experience has been that most breastfeeding women are pretty subtle about it. Most of the time, you wouldn't even know it's happening. Sure, there are a few who are very blatant, but I almost never see that.



i understand all of that. and i agree, most of the breast-feeding women i've known are discreet as well.


what i don't understand, though, is if you have a newborn baby that's on such an erratic feeding schedule, then why are you out somewhere with it in public? it's not old enough to be out with you at the mall, or on the train (dear god, the germs!), or what have you.


the grocery store, i can see. but some of the other places i've seen it... it seems a bit bizarre that the woman would have a newborn there in the first place. and i HAVE seen women make a production out of it. it just strikes me as odd.


but as i said, it doesn't disturb me to see it, and i fully agree that it should be allowed. but i think people should put a little thought into where they're going to be and how long, and try to find someplace discreet to do it, instead of on the subway or something...


Well, they recommend that women breastfeed for at least 6 months, if not more, for optimal benefit. So, sure, at first Mom is hardly ever gonna go anywhere but eventually she will. It's great to be able to pump, and a lot of moms who go back to work after a few months do so religiously. I always highly recommend that method--but a good electric pump is at least $100, so some of my moms don't have the money for that. And a few totally dorky wink babies absolutely REFUSE to take a bottle, it takes a LOT of work to make them take it.

Most moms do take into consideration where they're going, privacy, etc. And most moms try to be discreet. But rather than endure a baby screaming at the top of its lungs for 15-30 mins or more while trapped in a subway (a LIFETIME, let me tell ya!), I'd much rather a woman go ahead and breastfeed. Moms have enough to think about--packing diapers, wipes, pacifiers, blankets PLUS their purses, grocery list, etc., that trying to be psychic enough to know exactly how much to feed the baby to get it through til they're out of public doesn't always occur. shrug
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Reply #39 posted 09/23/03 9:01pm

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Of course people are gonna stare if a mother whips her breast out in public, simply because it's uncommon and will grab people's attention.

That doesn't mean everyone staring is appalled by it though. It's just simply something we don't see often.

When I was younger I would laugh at seeing such a thing, nowdays I'm not offended by it at all.
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Reply #40 posted 09/23/03 9:07pm

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Jesus Aaron, it's fucking obvious you have never had children.

I dont even know where to start so I wont even bother.
When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading.
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Reply #41 posted 09/23/03 9:11pm

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bkw said:

Jesus Aaron, it's fucking obvious you have never had children.

I dont even know where to start so I wont even bother.



shrug


i was just giving my opinion. that is what we were supposed to do, right?


or when the question was posed, were we all just supposed to say "yeah, they should be whipping out their tits everywhere." i guess we were.


as i said, i'm not offended by it, and it doesn't make me uncomfortable, and i don't gawk at it. however, i often find it to be an odd situation that a mother would have a newborn at a mall for a length of time that would require a feeding.


and no, obviously i've never had children. and the chances of it hare highly unlikely.
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Reply #42 posted 09/23/03 9:14pm

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bkw said:

Jesus Aaron, it's fucking obvious you have never had children.

I dont even know where to start so I wont even bother.


An experienced Dad talking, obviously, bkw! kiss

Actually, I'm single and don't have any kids myself, so I can kinda understand Aaron's perspective. If I didn't work at the job I do, I myself would probably be more in-the-dark about all of this and not understand.

Aaron's a guy who has said that most likely he is not going to have any kids himself. I wouldn't expect him to really understand this, and I am hoping that I can just honestly share my own experiences with him to make him understand a little more. (Easier for me than for an exhausted parent like you, bkw, I'm sure! razz)
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Reply #43 posted 09/23/03 9:21pm

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AnotherLoverToo said:

bkw said:

Jesus Aaron, it's fucking obvious you have never had children.

I dont even know where to start so I wont even bother.


An experienced Dad talking, obviously, bkw! kiss

Actually, I'm single and don't have any kids myself, so I can kinda understand Aaron's perspective. If I didn't work at the job I do, I myself would probably be more in-the-dark about all of this and not understand.

Aaron's a guy who has said that most likely he is not going to have any kids himself. I wouldn't expect him to really understand this, and I am hoping that I can just honestly share my own experiences with him to make him understand a little more. (Easier for me than for an exhausted parent like you, bkw, I'm sure! razz)



I understand it perfectly, though. However, from some of the times I've seen it, all I'm saying is that it was a bit odd. Like a mother out with a bunch of women in the mall with about a half a dozen shopping bags, sitting down in the middle of the ... uh, what's it called... one of those sitting areas... anyway, just sitting down in the middle of a bunch of people whipping her tit out, not being discreet at all, and jabbering away with friends (including about the breast-feeding itself). I've seen it several times. I just find it oddly showy.

Why not retire to the women's bathroom, where there is a furnished lobby (and I mean furnished -- I know this, because my mother used to drag me in there to spank my ass when I was a kid lol) and do it there?


Or why plan a multi-hour shopping trip with the girls when she have a child that's only a few months old that needs tending to more than she needs to be at Famous Barr?

I guess you're right, I don't understand.


Anyway, as I said, no kids here, no plan for them, and it doesn't bother me when I see it. So not my problem...


NEXT! lol
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Reply #44 posted 09/23/03 9:22pm

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AaronMaximus said:

bkw said:

Jesus Aaron, it's fucking obvious you have never had children.

I dont even know where to start so I wont even bother.



shrug


i was just giving my opinion. that is what we were supposed to do, right?


or when the question was posed, were we all just supposed to say "yeah, they should be whipping out their tits everywhere." i guess we were.


as i said, i'm not offended by it, and it doesn't make me uncomfortable, and i don't gawk at it. however, i often find it to be an odd situation that a mother would have a newborn at a mall for a length of time that would require a feeding.


and no, obviously i've never had children. and the chances of it hare highly unlikely.


Like I just said, Aaron, I am glad you're asking these questions and I can relate. Although I work very intimately with pregnant and parenting families, at the end of the day I get to give the baby back and let them feed and diaper it and deal with all of the not-fun aspects, lol.

I think that it's important to remember, too, Aaron, that having a baby shouldn't be a prison sentence to a woman. wink Used to be, having a baby kept a woman stuck at home and unable to go anywhere because of things like crying, feeding, diaper changing (there didn't used to be those diaper changing stations in the bathrooms, either!). A woman or DAD, either, should be able to go to the mall or other places for longer than 15 mins or so. Babies are just plain unpredictable sometimes, a parent has to be ready for feedings,diaper changes, sleeping at the drop of a hat... sigh

If I got pregnant, personally, I'd try to breastfeed at home and pump for the rest of the times. But things don't always work out as planned at all occasions...life and babies are crazy that way! Ask your mom, Aaron, about your eating and sleeping patterns as an infant. I bet you were a lil fucker! wink
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Reply #45 posted 09/23/03 9:27pm

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AnotherLoverToo said:

AaronMaximus said:

bkw said:

Jesus Aaron, it's fucking obvious you have never had children.

I dont even know where to start so I wont even bother.



shrug


i was just giving my opinion. that is what we were supposed to do, right?


or when the question was posed, were we all just supposed to say "yeah, they should be whipping out their tits everywhere." i guess we were.


as i said, i'm not offended by it, and it doesn't make me uncomfortable, and i don't gawk at it. however, i often find it to be an odd situation that a mother would have a newborn at a mall for a length of time that would require a feeding.


and no, obviously i've never had children. and the chances of it hare highly unlikely.


Like I just said, Aaron, I am glad you're asking these questions and I can relate. Although I work very intimately with pregnant and parenting families, at the end of the day I get to give the baby back and let them feed and diaper it and deal with all of the not-fun aspects, lol.

I think that it's important to remember, too, Aaron, that having a baby shouldn't be a prison sentence to a woman. wink Used to be, having a baby kept a woman stuck at home and unable to go anywhere because of things like crying, feeding, diaper changing (there didn't used to be those diaper changing stations in the bathrooms, either!). A woman or DAD, either, should be able to go to the mall or other places for longer than 15 mins or so. Babies are just plain unpredictable sometimes, a parent has to be ready for feedings,diaper changes, sleeping at the drop of a hat... sigh

If I got pregnant, personally, I'd try to breastfeed at home and pump for the rest of the times. But things don't always work out as planned at all occasions...life and babies are crazy that way! Ask your mom, Aaron, about your eating and sleeping patterns as an infant. I bet you were a lil fucker! wink




ask her about my sleeping patterns now lol


anyway, I understand what you're saying, and I agree.


except for one thing.

no, having a baby shouldn't mean you should be imprisoned in your own home with it. however, it should me that you adjust your life and your expectations of where you can go and when and how long.
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Reply #46 posted 09/23/03 9:28pm

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AaronMaximus said:

AnotherLoverToo said:

bkw said:

Jesus Aaron, it's fucking obvious you have never had children.

I dont even know where to start so I wont even bother.


An experienced Dad talking, obviously, bkw! kiss

Actually, I'm single and don't have any kids myself, so I can kinda understand Aaron's perspective. If I didn't work at the job I do, I myself would probably be more in-the-dark about all of this and not understand.

Aaron's a guy who has said that most likely he is not going to have any kids himself. I wouldn't expect him to really understand this, and I am hoping that I can just honestly share my own experiences with him to make him understand a little more. (Easier for me than for an exhausted parent like you, bkw, I'm sure! razz)



I understand it perfectly, though. However, from some of the times I've seen it, all I'm saying is that it was a bit odd. Like a mother out with a bunch of women in the mall with about a half a dozen shopping bags, sitting down in the middle of the ... uh, what's it called... one of those sitting areas... anyway, just sitting down in the middle of a bunch of people whipping her tit out, not being discreet at all, and jabbering away with friends (including about the breast-feeding itself). I've seen it several times. I just find it oddly showy.

Why not retire to the women's bathroom, where there is a furnished lobby (and I mean furnished -- I know this, because my mother used to drag me in there to spank my ass when I was a kid lol) and do it there?


Or why plan a multi-hour shopping trip with the girls when she have a child that's only a few months old that needs tending to more than she needs to be at Famous Barr?

I guess you're right, I don't understand.


Anyway, as I said, no kids here, no plan for them, and it doesn't bother me when I see it. So not my problem...


NEXT! lol


Ok, yeah, I get ya--I'll stop on this topic now, too! But just one more thing. I think I TOTALLY know the type of woman you're talking about--the white pseudo-granola, yuppy woman who thinks she's MotherEarth and the only woman who's ever had a baby, and is so comfortable with breastfeeding that it becomes the focus of whatever's going on at the time...LOL...like, there can be no conversation other than about the baby and anything the baby is doing at the time--including breastfeeding, lol.

Ok, I'm done with you now wink
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Reply #47 posted 09/23/03 9:30pm

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I work in a childrens photography studio and I see so many titties all day long it would make all you men jealous lol
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Reply #48 posted 09/23/03 9:31pm

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AaronMaximus said:

AnotherLoverToo said:

AaronMaximus said:

bkw said:

Jesus Aaron, it's fucking obvious you have never had children.

I dont even know where to start so I wont even bother.



shrug


i was just giving my opinion. that is what we were supposed to do, right?


or when the question was posed, were we all just supposed to say "yeah, they should be whipping out their tits everywhere." i guess we were.


as i said, i'm not offended by it, and it doesn't make me uncomfortable, and i don't gawk at it. however, i often find it to be an odd situation that a mother would have a newborn at a mall for a length of time that would require a feeding.


and no, obviously i've never had children. and the chances of it hare highly unlikely.


Like I just said, Aaron, I am glad you're asking these questions and I can relate. Although I work very intimately with pregnant and parenting families, at the end of the day I get to give the baby back and let them feed and diaper it and deal with all of the not-fun aspects, lol.

I think that it's important to remember, too, Aaron, that having a baby shouldn't be a prison sentence to a woman. wink Used to be, having a baby kept a woman stuck at home and unable to go anywhere because of things like crying, feeding, diaper changing (there didn't used to be those diaper changing stations in the bathrooms, either!). A woman or DAD, either, should be able to go to the mall or other places for longer than 15 mins or so. Babies are just plain unpredictable sometimes, a parent has to be ready for feedings,diaper changes, sleeping at the drop of a hat... sigh

If I got pregnant, personally, I'd try to breastfeed at home and pump for the rest of the times. But things don't always work out as planned at all occasions...life and babies are crazy that way! Ask your mom, Aaron, about your eating and sleeping patterns as an infant. I bet you were a lil fucker! wink




except for one thing.

no, having a baby shouldn't mean you should be imprisoned in your own home with it. however, it should me that you adjust your life and your expectations of where you can go and when and how long.


Oh, HELL YES--I'm the first person to tell you, for example, how angry I get when parents bring their babies to movies or weddings or other events and don't remove themselves for a moment when the baby starts crying...

I totally agree with you. But breastfeeding in public doesn't really have to affect anyone, usually--they can just not look. And it's only the rare mom who gets all annoyingly obvious about it...

Ok, now I'm really done! lol
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Reply #49 posted 09/23/03 9:32pm

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Reply #50 posted 09/23/03 11:57pm

bkw

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AaronMaximus said:

bkw said:

Jesus Aaron, it's fucking obvious you have never had children.

I dont even know where to start so I wont even bother.



shrug


i was just giving my opinion. that is what we were supposed to do, right?


or when the question was posed, were we all just supposed to say "yeah, they should be whipping out their tits everywhere." i guess we were.


as i said, i'm not offended by it, and it doesn't make me uncomfortable, and i don't gawk at it. however, i often find it to be an odd situation that a mother would have a newborn at a mall for a length of time that would require a feeding.


and no, obviously i've never had children. and the chances of it hare highly unlikely.

Sorry Aaron.

I re-read my post and it seems a little harsh. I didn't mean it to sound like that.

Oops.

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Reply #51 posted 09/23/03 11:59pm

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Reply #52 posted 09/24/03 9:28am

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bkw said:

Jesus Aaron, it's fucking obvious you have never had children.

I dont even know where to start so I wont even bother.


An experienced Dad talking, obviously, bkw! kiss

Actually, I'm single and don't have any kids myself, so I can kinda understand Aaron's perspective.


I don't understand his perspective at all. Sorry Aaron but it seems like you are trying to put strict timetables and expectations on how a person should live their lives once they have kids. I agree that taking a newborn out in public isn't really a good thing with all the germs but some mothers breast feed up to a year, so to expect a mom to hide out at home and restrict all daily activity just so they can adhere to these phony baloney moral/ethical standards is just ridiculous IMO.

And

you said:

no, having a baby shouldn't mean you should be imprisoned in your own home with it. however, it should me that you adjust your life and your expectations of where you can go and when and how long.


This is true, many adjustments need to be made for the well being of the baby but sparing people the site of a breast should never be one of them... Get real.
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

AnotherLoverToo said:

bkw said:

Jesus Aaron, it's fucking obvious you have never had children.

I dont even know where to start so I wont even bother.


An experienced Dad talking, obviously, bkw! kiss

Actually, I'm single and don't have any kids myself, so I can kinda understand Aaron's perspective.


I don't understand his perspective at all. Sorry Aaron but it seems like you are trying to put strict timetables and expectations on how a person should live their lives once they have kids. I agree that taking a newborn out in public isn't really a good thing with all the germs but some mothers breast feed up to a year, so to expect a mom to hide out at home and restrict all daily activity just so they can adhere to these phony baloney moral/ethical standards is just ridiculous IMO.

And

you said:

no, having a baby shouldn't mean you should be imprisoned in your own home with it. however, it should me that you adjust your life and your expectations of where you can go and when and how long.


This is true, many adjustments need to be made for the well being of the baby but sparing people the site of a breast should never be one of them... Get real.


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Reply #54 posted 09/24/03 11:50am

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I've not read the entire thread, but there really is no need for a mother to whack her tits out in full view of everyone to feed baby.
There are convenient mother and baby rooms all over the place.

I must stress i'm not personally offended by it though.smile
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Reply #55 posted 09/24/03 12:01pm

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Marrk said:

I've not read the entire thread, but there really is no need for a mother to whack her tits out in full view of everyone to feed baby.
There are convenient mother and baby rooms all over the place.

I must stress i'm not personally offended by it though.smile


Baby rooms are not all over the place and not all situations will allow for a mother to go somewhere private. I have never seen a woman flagrantly flaunting her breasts as she feeds her child.

I still can't believe people actually expect women to run off to a dark corner as if feeding a baby is something to be ashamed of. I just don't get it.
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Marrk said:

I've not read the entire thread, but there really is no need for a mother to whack her tits out in full view of everyone to feed baby.
There are convenient mother and baby rooms all over the place.

I must stress i'm not personally offended by it though.smile


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Where do you live? I've never seen a "mother and baby room." I've been asked to "take it into the bathroom," and I'll be damned if I'm going into a smelly public bathroom to feed my baby. I'm not taking a shit, for chrissakes, nor am I doing anything to be ashamed of.
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FunkMistress said:

Marrk said:

I've not read the entire thread, but there really is no need for a mother to whack her tits out in full view of everyone to feed baby.
There are convenient mother and baby rooms all over the place.

I must stress i'm not personally offended by it though.smile


confuse
Where do you live? I've never seen a "mother and baby room." I've been asked to "take it into the bathroom," and I'll be damned if I'm going into a smelly public bathroom to feed my baby. I'm not taking a shit, for chrissakes, nor am I doing anything to be ashamed of.


I've never seen them either...
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Reply #58 posted 09/24/03 12:35pm

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Marrk said:

I've not read the entire thread, but there really is no need for a mother to whack her tits out in full view of everyone to feed baby.
There are convenient mother and baby rooms all over the place.

I must stress i'm not personally offended by it though.smile


confuse
Where do you live? I've never seen a "mother and baby room." I've been asked to "take it into the bathroom," and I'll be damned if I'm going into a smelly public bathroom to feed my baby. I'm not taking a shit, for chrissakes, nor am I doing anything to be ashamed of.


Most supermarkets have them in the UK, McDonalds etc. I'm not saying you should be ashamed, not at all, i think it's a beautiful thing. there are a minority of people that object.

I suppose it's taking into consideration too where you are exactly when baby needs feeding.Surely there has to be places where you yourself would deem it off limits yourself.
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Reply #59 posted 09/24/03 12:35pm

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XxAxX said:

yeah but some of them had high concentrations of asbestos in their breast milk from their environment. . .


depends on where those tests were done. asbestos is only prevelant in certain area of the country...
only reason i know anything at all about that...is because we just had a shitload of it removed from our land...

from everything ive read...breast feeding is still the best nutritional thing for a newborn baby. and i would only hope that the doctors that live in those areas where the asbestos contamination is...would be smart enough to advise their mother patients not to breast feed due to that contamination...but doctors suck...so they prolly dont. rolleyes but in a perfect world..maybe they would


An expert on ABC nightly news said that even if your breast milk has these toxins, you should still go ahead because the baby has already been exposed in the womb. Maybe the immune system building effect of milk will counteract the negatives of the toxins. He said in short the good outweights the bad.
Maybe you should look into these things before you comment...? Just a suggestion.
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