A common feeling (especially amongst the older generation) that once you smoke (a cigarette) without exception next hash > e’s and wiz > coke or heroine> overdose > coma > dead! What are your opinions on this? Do you know anyone this has actually happend too?

(It’s bizarre I know, but I though we could try a discussion in the discussion forum)

My "old" college friends...

REDFEATHERS said:

What all of them?

PREDOMINANT said:

No a group of them: cigarettes, smoking hash, then having wild bong parties, now they left uni, I know some are still doig coke...me and my best mates have left them to it now, it's boring, hell knows whats happened to them now...

See thats my point, they are "still doing coke".Every night? Once a week, would you call them "druggies" (for want of a better expression.

PREDOMINANT said:

Well they have kids now..they can do what they want but to be coked up to the eyeballs bringing up kids, they still think it is the best thing since sliced bread, I tend to disagree... It's old hat

crazyhorse said:

That is awful!!! sorry to hear about that..

“September my cousin tried a reefer for the very first time now he’s doing horse. It’s June.”


:OMG: June is your cousin?




Is he alright?

It's hard to do "horse" without a steady box to stand on.

bkw said:

you can get 'em to crouch



or so i'm told

MrBliss said:

You just need a big carrot!

(p.s hi mate!!!)

PANDURITO said:

Don't go changing my punctuation!!

PREDOMINANT said:

Ooh, I know this one

I love you just the way you are...

bkw said:

bkw said:

howdy

Same thing happened with friends of mine. After a while they
just weren't any fun to hang around anymore. Before we went
out they'd just stop in the middle of nowhere and had to
take shitloads of drugs to get themselves started for the
evening.

It started with reefer and went onto reefer + xtc, then an
additional dose of mushrooms, lsd, speed.

By the time we were one year further they'd turned into
regular junkies, sold their audio equipment and tv's etc.

I've got pics of me and my best friend, who by that time
had turned white as a sheet, translucent skin with the
veins showing thru.

There was just no talking to them anymore so I had to cut
them loose.

Just a few weeks ago, an acquaintance of mine told me that
one of my former friends [24 yrs old] had died of a drug
overdose last year.

That made me sick to my stomach. Such a goddamn waste.

crazyhorse said:

I knew two guys that died that way also.

All of my friends and myself have smoked very, very, very much hashish. Some - including myself - experienced with cocaine/speed/heroin.

But, contrary to other peeps experiences, none of us ended up being addicted or worse.

Right now, none of us is smoking anymore, not even cigarettes...

there you go.

roverlo said:

thanks roverlo, thats what I was expecting people to say. Me too . I really thought the vast majority of people have a go, take some shit, get bored, grow up, and move on. I really wasn't expecting people to confirm the addage.

PREDOMINANT said:

It surprised me as well! and the step reefer -> heroin is certainly not something I witnessed a lot.

Yet one might state all junkies started with reefer - something that may very well be true! But that does not say smoking hasish automatically makes you vulnerable to become addicted to hard drugs...escapism is involved there imho. Prince overlooked that in that line from SOTT

roverlo said:

oo, might have to bump the thread over to P:M&M if you keep talking like that!!
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ive smoked, snorted, enhaled just about everything..(well, except heroin...cause thats just so not in vouge this season:))

but seriously...i got over it..not that im never gonna do it again...i just ended up finding "life" to be a greater high...not that i wont visit Barry at a party every now and then...

uhhh...i am so not typing any of this!!

sosgemini said:

It's alright, it's a secret thread

PREDOMINANT said:

lol, yeah.

PREDOMINANT said:

Yes, one friend. Dead.

No I think it depends on the person and their level of confidence and tolerance. I only know one person who has done a lot of coke and still does it on a rare occasion, but even he said it was addicitive and hard as hell to kick as a habit. He wasn't doing it to fit in or be accepted, it was just common in his circle, he was a leader not a follower. And he's from the older generation...60's and 70's.

Cigarrettes are disgusting so I cannot even discuss those things...a few terms that come to mind are cancer sticks and coffin nails.

I've never smoked anything other than weed because it's so old school and common, I don't even consider it anything bad. I don't do it that often cuz it makes me tired and gives me the munchies, plus I have one of those "socially responsible jobs" and the herb has such a bad rep here in the U.S.

Coke, heroin, hash, ecstacy..all that shit scares me, always has and always will. I can't even imagine sticking a needle in my arm or inhaling some stankin' ass crack.

So, I guess the answer is no...it does not always go from "reefer" to "horse"


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I used to argue people to the ground that pot is not a gateway drug... I have a different outlook on it all now

I think it just depends on the person...shit I am still standing and alive.

MostBeautifulGrlNTheWorld said:

Just!