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[This message was edited Sat Sep 13 11:08:05 PDT 2003 by pejman]

I don't know. For Oscar this is personal. He needs to avenge his loss to Shane, the only indisputable loss of his pro career. Shane needs this win to retain -- perhaps to regain -- his status as an elite fighter. Not since Donald Curry in the mid-1980s has a fighter seemingly so close to perfection seen his star fall so fast. The parallels between Sugar Shane and "The Lone Star Cobra" are, in fact, striking.

OSCAR>>>

OSCAR :WORSHIP: KICK HIS ASS De La Hoya!

endorphin74 said:

co-

De La Hoya will probably win it... it was a VERY close fight last time and De La Hoya has only been getting better since then. The thing is that Mosley beat him in the amateurs and then pro... this is kinda like what happened to Mosley with Forrest.

I still think that De La Hoya will win it though.

So where are all the boxing fans around here? Is this joint dead or do peeps just not get into this sport on this site? I think more peeps need to step up and express themselves. This should be a great fight!!!

I disagree Ice...in the last fight, Shane was clearly dominate. He was giving Oscar trouble because of his
speed. On top of that, Shane was also stronger.
It was the first time I'de seen Oscar actually lose.

Sugar has had his problems with Forrest, but he has
great skills. Just as Forrest was his achilles heel,
I think that Sugar may be Oscars. He doesn't match up
well with Sugar...that combo of speed AND power will
be tough to overcome.

I'll be rooting for Oscar.

It should be a great fight.

If Oscar wins I wonder if they will rematch again.

Mosley is much stronger than De La Hoya. I can guarantee that if Mosley doesn't win, the fight will have been rigged so as to make more money off of it in the future. But what the fuck do I know anyway?






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[This message was edited Fri Sep 12 22:54:44 PDT 2003 by maybecabdriver]

Revolution said:

I really do think that the fight was pretty close last time, but I agree that Mosley's speed was what killed DLH. I think that DLH wasn't ready for that much speed and it confused him a bit... DLH will be better prepared this time, but that doesn't mean that he will beat him this time either. Just as I mentioned about Forrest and Mosley earlier, Mosley just might have DLH's number. I honestly think that DLH was a bit lazy in his career at the time he fought Mosley though and that he has re-dedicated himself recently. Did you see what he did to Vargas? Vargas was clearly the stronger man, yet DLH took his power and knocked him out. The only problem for DLH is that he has to get to Mosley's body to slow him down... DLH is a good body puncher, but he sometimes overlooks the body work in fights.

I still think that DLH will take it.

I want shane to do the damn thang and he has shown that he can, but i do think that he has to mentally deal with gettin trounced by forrest twice.
Thing is though (also) ice is pretty good at pickin 'em
and has some good points.
golden boy has alot of mental shit to overcome also espeacialy the thing with having so many trainers, but he is out to avenge his loss and that ain't always a good thing.
If he wins, he'll say he did it with one hand. The loss will be because he only had one hand and should have postponed until he was fit.

pulling for Sugar Shane.De La Hoya use to Impress Me with His Jabbing Gift but He Won alot of Fights getting that "Sugar Ray Leonard Treatment" on some close fights.I still ain't got over SweetPea Whittaker getting Robbed by Oscar.anyway Oscar Needs this Fight more than Sugar Shane at this stage of His Career.I give De La Hoya Props for Smashing that Last Cat he Fought on was on the Steriods&still got Smashed.but Oscar's best days have long passed.if His Singing Career had have taken off I doubt He would be still fighting.anyway I hope it doesn't come down to a Score Card because something tells me Oscar still has a "Sugar Ray Leonard" pass with some Judges in a close fight.

pejman said:

OK. Here's my POV: Oscar looks unnaturally forced when he tries to look menacing/hard in a couple of those pictures above. In fact he looks harder just standing up against that wall in that other pic.

How's that?

Supernova said:

thanx for your opinion

oscar de la hoya
all the way.
no doubt about it.
:F:

Well, I didn't get to see the fight but according to reports
Shane got that ass WHOOPED, but he still won.
Now 'golden boy' can feel the 'ring generalship' shit hit home.
9 rounds to three couldn't happen to a nicer fella

00769BAD said:

It was a close fight, but i thought Oscar won. It wasn't a horrible decision, but Hoya did win. Emanuelle Syewart said it best that maybe the judges look for the fighter who finishes the fight stronger. Mosley definitely dominated the last five rounds.

Pissed about this situation... I had a bet on
this fight and now I feel I lost unfairly! But...
a bets a bet, gotta pay up!

ghat dayum right on the button.. look at that... fuck that had to huuurrrt

ROUND 1
De La Hoya misses two jabs, and Mosley circles to his left. Oscar steps in with good jab to the body. They are circling one another looking for openings. Good triple jab from Oscar though none land. Double jab from Oscar, then a good 1-2 that glances off Shane's head. Oscar throws a pair of double jabs and seems to be trying to fight more like Vernon Forrest than his old style. Nice jab and right to body by Shane, and Oscar lands a right cross clean in return. Tight action thus far. Mosley nails Oscar with a big hook as Oscar comes in and briefly wobbles him. Oscar fires a big hook that partially lands and elicits cheers from the crowd. Mosley tries the jab right to the body combo again and lands a good body shot. They're both being cautious and boxing tightly.

Oscar's round 10-9.

ROUND 2
They trade hooks to open the round, both landing. There's a clinch and both men maul shots inside to little effect. Mosley tries the jab-body combo and Oscar blocks it partially. A good double jab from Oscar moves Shane back. Oscar misses a right lead. They're posing and trying to find openings, leading with stiff jabs. Nice 1-2 from Oscar to the body. Double jab from Oscar once more, and it's effective in backing Mosley up enough to prevent him from countering. They're exclusively in the center of the ring. Nice right to body from Oscar, and he misses a three-punch combination as Mosley counters with a right.

Oscar's round 10-9.

ROUND 3
Big hook from Oscar to open the round. Shane is stalking and seems to look a little confused as to how to attack Oscar. Low left by Mosley gets a warning from Joe Cortez. Nice counter hook by Shane drives Oscar back, and Oscar fires a solid left back as payback. It's heating up. Good jab from Oscar. He's moving after throwing and Mosley is unable to counter as he did in the first fight. Very little action now, as they circle one another, each moving to his left. Mosley is juking and feinting trying to let something go but he's having to reach and isn't landing when he does let go to the head. Mosley lands a good right to the body and Oscar moves away. Double jab from Oscar. Mosley clubs Oscar with a good body shot at round's end.

Oscar's round 10-9.

ROUND 4
Triple jab from Mosley is countered by right from De La Hoya. Big right to body from Shane, and Oscar counters with hard left hook. There's a head butt that draws a stoppage from Cortez; it's ruled accidental, and Oscar is bleeding from his right eye. De La Hoya is moving again and trying to set up his power shots behind the jab. Good body shot from Mosley but Oscar comes back with a hook to Shane's midsection. Shane ducks under a combo from Oscar and Oscar fires a solid 1-2 that lands. They trade in close and Oscar lands a pair of vicious hooks. Mosley digs back to Oscar's ribs. De La Hoya slips a leaping hook from Shane and counters with a jab. Oscar misses a 1-2 but Mosley ducks under and does not counter. Oscar blocks a hook from Shane. Shane is not landing many punches and Oscar is doing just a little more to take another round.

Oscar's round 10-9

ROUND 5
Borderline left to body from Oscar to open the round. Good right from Oscar, and Mosley counters with a hard shot as they trade heavy bombs. Mosley misses a 1-2 and Oscar pushes him away. Nice right to body from Shane. Oscar leads with the hook and Shane blocks it. Not much action this round as Oscar is boxing and refuses to trade. Nice hook from Shane. De La Hoya is not jabbing as much but seems to be leading with power shots more often. Nice 1-2 to the ribs from Oscar and Mosley slams a hook to Oscar's head. Oscar seems to be willing to trade. The 10-second warning! They are trading hard blows.

Mosley's round 10-9.

ROUND 6
Mosley fires a big hook cross that Oscar partially blocks but it's his best offensive attempt so far. Big hook to body from Oscar. Oscar is letting Shane come forward and making him solve the distance between them. Mosley is juking, feinting and trying to bait Oscar into something but Oscar won't bite; instead he smacks a left hook home to the midsection that lands with a resounding thump. Cortez breaks the action to re-tape Oscar's glove. Nice hook once more to body by Oscar, who double jabs and then lands a right hand counter at round's end.

Oscar's round 10-9.

ROUND 7
They trade jabs, but Oscar moves away refusing to exchange. Big hook from Oscar. Mosley misses an overhand right and Oscar ducks under another cross. They tie up on the ropes and Oscar moves to the center of the ring and resumes boxing. Oscar ties Shane up twice to smother attacks. Mosley is not getting off, and Oscar seems to be taking over the fight when they are at long range. Nice combination from Shane, and Oscar fires back. It's the best exchange of the round. Sharp right lead from Oscar and he fires a combo that misses but Shane is too busy slipping punches to fire back.

Oscar's round 10-9.

ROUND 8
Nice overhand right from Shane but Oscar doesn't budge. Mosley seems confused before the round as Jack Mosley tells him to stay on his toes, and that he's losing the fight. Cortez warns Mosley for roughhousing. They trade jabs that miss. Mosley lands a right to the body and Oscar fires a crisp cross in return a moment later. Mosley seems more aggressive now and willing to take chances. Perhaps he feels the fight slipping away from him. Shane lands a stiff jab and Oscar fires a right back.

Oscar's round 10-9.

ROUND 9
Big hook from Oscar countering a missed hook from Shane. Mosley lands a good shot and Oscar lands a big hook in return. Five good body shots from Oscar, and Mosley lands a good hook. Oscar is nailed with a big right hand and may have been hurt. Mosley hits him with another right to the body. Oscar seems a little dazed. Another hook from Mosley. Huge hook from Mosley and Oscar lands a monster hook to the body at the same time. It's the best round so far! Shane misses a sweeping left hook. Good double right from Shane to the body and head, and Oscar is slowing down a little. They trade savage body shots at the end of the round. Mosley's best round so far.

Mosley's round 10-9.

ROUND 10
They trade hooks, Mosley to the body and Oscar to the head, both landing hard. Neither man moves back, though, or seems rocked. Big hook from Shane, and Oscar moves back. Big right to body from Shane, and Oscar misses a left in return. Big hook from Oscar after Mosley lands another right to the body. Mosley is moving now and looks like his old self. Shane blocks a big hook and fires back, but Oscar nails him hard with his best combo in the last couple rounds.

Oscar's round 10-9.

ROUND 11
Good right from Shane and Oscar is tentative. Mosley lands another hard right that glances off Oscar as De La Hoya ducks in. Shane seems to have just a little more energy and snap in his punches at this point. They clinch twice with little action in close. Very little action until Mosley lands a monster hook, and Oscar fires back with a vicious 1-2! Shane bulls him into the ropes with a minute left. Shane comes forward with fast hands but can't land. Mosley's mouthpiece comes flying out after a huge left uppercut. Twenty seconds left in the round. Mosley fires a big 1-2 that Oscar slips, but the brawl is on.

Oscar's round 10-9.

ROUND 12
It's the final round! Mosley opens up with a 1-2 that just misses and Oscar fires a flurry back that backs him up. They aren't landing flush but they back Shane up. Mosley lands a good right, and then another massive right that backs Oscar up. Oscar seems hurt. Mosley has a chance here to pull it out. Shane lands a pair of big body shots and Mosley comes forward, desperate to close the show. Big right from Oscar and a solid left. Mosley comes forward, unfazed. A minute to go. Mosley bangs Oscar with a pair of body shots as they clinch. Oscar fires of a triple jab and Mosley doesn't counter, dipping to the side. They trade hard rights. A good 1-2 from Oscar. Twenty seconds left. They flurry and both miss and the final bell rings, both men giving an embrace at the conclusion of the bout.

Mosley's round 10-9.



Read 'em and weep

funny how Oscar is on the Reverse side of a Close Fight these days? The GOlden boy's Sugar Ray Leonard Pass is over now.I still remember being upset at How He got that Fight over Sweatpea Whitaker.&He had a couple other fights that were suspect.so this Fight&The Trinidad Fight He got the Reverse.

Oscar won that fight...

All 3 judges gave rd 11 to Mosely. Clearly, it
was Oscars rd...
The early rds were close, i can see where they
could have been scored either way, but rd 11?

Inexcusable!

Does Pro boxing have to go to the amateur scoring
system???

Revolution said:

Why if they had done that, he wouldn't be the golden boy, would he? He espeacialy should appreciate the scoring,
it'll help him win his next fight (if it ain't a tune up
his doed well all by himself in tune ups)

De La Hoya was ROBBED... plain and simple. He beat Mosley handily. I had De La Hoya winning all but 3 rounds in the fight.

De La Hoya landed nearly 200% more shots and controlled the fight from start to finish. This is one of the worst decisions in a LONG time. The only problem for De La Hoya is that he can't raise too much hell over the decision, as he has Golden Boy Promotions to consider... you don't want to start a whole lot of shit with the judges when you are a promoter, as they might just remember that when your fighters are in the ring.

FUCK BOXING.