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Thread started 09/04/03 6:32am

lovemachine

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Big CD Price cut on the Way - Cd's will be up to 31 percent cheaper!

I wonder if people who steal music on the internet because "the prices are so outrageously high for music" will return to buying their music once again wink Doubtful in my opinion.



Universal Music Group slashes CD prices
Record company hopes 30% reduction will help revitalize languishing market

By AMY HARMON
THE NEW YORK TIMES

Battered by online piracy, Universal Music Group, the world's largest record company, said yesterday that it would cut prices on compact discs by as much as 30 percent in an aggressive bid to lure consumers back into record stores.

The deep price cut -- the only one to apply to new CDs since the format was introduced in the early 1980s -- represents a gamble by Universal that more consumers will buy more CDs once the price dips below $13. It also reflects the profound degree to which Internet file trading has managed to undermine the music business, Universal executives said.

"We are in the middle of a terrible situation where our music is being stolen," said Doug Morris, chairman of Universal, which includes labels such as A&M and Island Def Jam and artists such as Eminem, Elton John, Shania Twain and U2. "We need to invigorate the market, and as an industry leader we felt we had to be bold and make a move."

Under the new pricing scheme, Universal would lower its wholesale price on a CD to $9.09 from $12.02. The company said it expected retail stores to lower CD prices to $12.98 from between $16.98 and $18.98, and perhaps to as low as $10. When CDs first arrived on the market they cost $15.98, and have climbed from there.

The result could be a broadening of the music market, which has contracted as prices have increased. Music consumers have complained for years that CD prices are too high, and many people who copy music without paying for it online cite high prices as the main reason.

"Music is not supposed to be an elitist product," said Josh Bernoff, an analyst at Forrester Research. "We're not talking about Lexus here. It's better to have more people buying music at a lower price than to have it priced out of the market."

But the move will put even greater pressure on Universal's profit margins at a time when the company is struggling.

And some music-industry analysts caution that high prices and piracy are not the only reason CD sales have dropped off.

Some of the research on older consumers shows that "not finding what they want is more of a reason for not buying than pricing," said Russ Crupnick, an analyst with NPD Group, a market research firm. "They still need to put out content that's appealing to people," he said, referring to the record companies.

Whether price cuts will revitalize the company's sales will depend largely on how retailers pass them on to consumers. A spokesman for Tower Records said no one was available to comment last night, but large retailers have traditionally sold new CDs at a discount from the suggested list price.

Universal also plans to shift tens of millions of dollars in advertising revenue from in-store promotions to television and print ads featuring the $12.98 price in an effort to drive consumers into stores.

Several other major record labels said they had no comment on Universal's price cuts.

But industry analysts said it was likely that others would follow the company's lead.

Universal, which is owned by Vivendi Universal, sees the price cuts as part of a larger strategy to discourage people from copying music using file-swapping programs such as KaZaA.


Here is another link for a similar story:

http://www.twincities.com...685631.htm
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Reply #1 posted 09/04/03 6:35am

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Unfortunately, those who steal music are getting it for free and will not care about the reduction in price.
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Reply #2 posted 09/04/03 6:41am

DavidEye

It's about time!

For years,record companies have been overcharging fans for crappy CDs that have only two or three good songs.And they wonder why CD sales have dropped in recent years??
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Reply #3 posted 09/04/03 6:43am

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IceNine said:

Unfortunately, those who steal music are getting it for free and will not care about the reduction in price.


good point...

I have a roommate who's a big time downloader and we argue about this all the time. His thing is that since it's been proven that the labels have price-fixed CDs, this is his way to recoup expenses...If all of the labels follow suit with this price reduction, I think it'll make it even clearer (IMO) that file-sharing is stealing and not justifiable.
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Reply #4 posted 09/04/03 6:49am

DavidEye

A CD should cost no more than $10.
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Reply #5 posted 09/04/03 6:50am

JDINTERACTIVE

Oh yeah great, just when I bought a CD Writer 4 the 1st time ever.

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Reply #6 posted 09/04/03 6:52am

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Sadly I also read that natural gas prices (heat) will be up 30 percent this winter so there goes the money we saved on cd's big grin
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Reply #7 posted 09/04/03 6:53am

Anxiety

For those of us who only download music to enjoy rare, out-of-circulation music and homemade bootleg remixes, this is great news!

And anyway, does anyone REALLY illegally download music anymore? After all the negative reinforcement measures and recent online terrorism (coincidence?), it seems as if downloading a free Radiohead album costs more than simply picking up a copy at the wrecka stow...
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Reply #8 posted 09/04/03 7:52am

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damn u !
i just found this and was about to post it !

aghhg !


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Reply #9 posted 09/04/03 8:44am

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I always said that if the cd was $9.99, I would buy it and not download it. I will support the industry if they do not try to stick it to the consumer. This is the start of something good.
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Reply #10 posted 09/04/03 8:58am

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I can't wait. I never got into the download thing because I never had a home PC. I still buy tons of music and have often resorted to perusing through "used" sections to find what I'm looking for. This is great news!
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Reply #11 posted 09/04/03 9:08am

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I'll believe that when I see it!! disbelief
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Reply #12 posted 09/04/03 5:27pm

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It's great to see one of the giants taking a step and not just trying to criminalize consumers. Hopefully it will have an impact.
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Reply #13 posted 09/04/03 5:30pm

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fuck this shit. buy vinyl. nod
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Reply #14 posted 09/04/03 5:39pm

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IceNine said:

Unfortunately, those who steal music are getting it for free and will not care about the reduction in price.




not necessarily. i'd be inclined to buy CD's for an artist i'm only mildly interested in (or am checking out) if they were $5 cheaper.
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Reply #15 posted 09/04/03 5:47pm

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Hmm, I wasn't sure if I saw this on CNN or TechTV... I better get a more straighforward news source boxed
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Reply #16 posted 09/04/03 5:52pm

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AaronSuperior said:

IceNine said:

Unfortunately, those who steal music are getting it for free and will not care about the reduction in price.




not necessarily. i'd be inclined to buy CD's for an artist i'm only mildly interested in (or am checking out) if they were $5 cheaper.
Exactly! I download MP3s of artists I want to check out or have only a marginal interest in. But if the CDs are cheaper, I'd be more inclined to buy them. I'd always take having the CD over just having the MP3

It's always been up to the record industry to make it worthwile for us to buy CDs if they were worried about piracy.
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Reply #17 posted 09/04/03 6:05pm

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IceNine said:

Unfortunately, those who steal music are getting it for free and will not care about the reduction in price.



I second that. However the record companies have been taking advantage of their customers for years. So it is acceptable to fight fire with fire.

On a different note its ironic that this post was started because I purchased my first non-Prince CD in over 12 months. With the Beatles for $8.99 at Best Buy. I couldn`t pass that one up.
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Reply #18 posted 09/04/03 6:06pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

fuck this shit. buy vinyl. nod


FUCK vinyl buy your tunes on 8-tracks.
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Reply #19 posted 09/05/03 3:00pm

DudeDrops

CHRIST! I DONT want this to turn into the Pro-Napster/Con-Napster debate again...but all I know is that file-sharing has forced me TO BUY MORE CDs. Through Napster and Kazaa I discovered SOOO many new artists and I started buying their discs.

I know alot of people disagree...but there are other factors leading to the shitty state the record industry is in. Like the economy and--HELLO!--ALL THESE NEW ARTISTS SUUUCCK!!!
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Reply #20 posted 09/05/03 3:01pm

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funkbible said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

fuck this shit. buy vinyl. nod


FUCK vinyl buy your tunes on 8-tracks.
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Reply #21 posted 09/05/03 3:16pm

Jamademus

This has been going on 4 years. In the late'70s early 80s in the UK there was a whole 'home taping is killing music' thing going on. It's the same vibe in the digital era.
If I REALLY like it I'll buy it. But the chance 2 check it out first is there I'll do that. nod
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