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Reply #30 posted 09/03/03 1:39am

irresistibleb1
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Janfriend said:

I know I'm going to get flamed for this, but I don't understand why people put the value of an animal's life equal to, if not above, a human's


no flaming here, but frankly, i don't understand why some people don't see the inherent right of another sentient being to live without suffering.
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Reply #31 posted 09/03/03 7:03am

Essence

Janfriend said:

I know I'm going to get flamed for this, but I don't understand why people put the value of an animal's life equal to, if not above, a human's


Nobody here mentioned their lives being equal to or above that of a humans, do you begrudge them any consideration?
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Reply #32 posted 09/03/03 9:39am

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Janfriend said:

I know I'm going to get flamed for this, but I don't understand why people put the value of an animal's life equal to, if not above, a human's


If I were given a gun and forced to shoot either a human or a chicken, I'd shoot the chicken, ok? That is not what this is about. Nobody needs to eat KFC to survive.

Making somebody suffer a miserable life and cruel death for the sake of happy tastebuds is sick and wrong.
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Reply #33 posted 09/03/03 9:42am

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PREDOMINANT said:

I haven’t eaten a BK or Mc D since Xmas 2002 after reading Eric Schlosser’s “Fast Food Nation”.



Somehow the atrocities committed by McD corporation far exceeded that of KFC. A bit hypocritical I know but I am officially addicted to KFC kfc I don't know if I could get through a month without some finger-lickin-chicken!



i have not eaten any fast food at all after reading that great book, except for two local chains... one is a submarine shop, the other is a taco place.
Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton
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Reply #34 posted 09/03/03 9:43am

Christopher

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cborgman said:

PREDOMINANT said:

I haven’t eaten a BK or Mc D since Xmas 2002 after reading Eric Schlosser’s “Fast Food Nation”.



Somehow the atrocities committed by McD corporation far exceeded that of KFC. A bit hypocritical I know but I am officially addicted to KFC kfc I don't know if I could get through a month without some finger-lickin-chicken!



i have not eaten any fast food at all after reading that great book, except for two local chains... one is a submarine shop, the other is a taco place.


dare i ask whats in that book mr.borgman? ill ?
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Reply #35 posted 09/03/03 9:52am

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Christopher said:

cborgman said:

PREDOMINANT said:

I haven’t eaten a BK or Mc D since Xmas 2002 after reading Eric Schlosser’s “Fast Food Nation”.



Somehow the atrocities committed by McD corporation far exceeded that of KFC. A bit hypocritical I know but I am officially addicted to KFC kfc I don't know if I could get through a month without some finger-lickin-chicken!



i have not eaten any fast food at all after reading that great book, except for two local chains... one is a submarine shop, the other is a taco place.


dare i ask whats in that book mr.borgman? ill ?



call me chris, other chris... and you should read it. it is a fantastic expose of not only the horrible business practices of fast food companies, but also their criminal treatment of workers, and some of the many many MANY health problems they create. some moments that really got me was McD's telling vegetarians and hindus the fries were meat product free when they weren't, and one company shipping 35 million pounds of tainted beef and then holding out on a recall for 3 months untill only 8 million pounds were returned.
Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton
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Reply #36 posted 09/03/03 9:58am

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Background and reviews of Fast Food Nation: http://www.amazon.com/exe...s&n=507846
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Reply #37 posted 09/03/03 9:59am

Christopher

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cborgman said:

Christopher said:

cborgman said:

PREDOMINANT said:

I haven’t eaten a BK or Mc D since Xmas 2002 after reading Eric Schlosser’s “Fast Food Nation”.



Somehow the atrocities committed by McD corporation far exceeded that of KFC. A bit hypocritical I know but I am officially addicted to KFC kfc I don't know if I could get through a month without some finger-lickin-chicken!



i have not eaten any fast food at all after reading that great book, except for two local chains... one is a submarine shop, the other is a taco place.


dare i ask whats in that book mr.borgman? ill ?



call me chris, other chris... and you should read it. it is a fantastic expose of not only the horrible business practices of fast food companies, but also their criminal treatment of workers, and some of the many many MANY health problems they create. some moments that really got me was McD's telling vegetarians and hindus the fries were meat product free when they weren't, and one company shipping 35 million pounds of tainted beef and then holding out on a recall for 3 months untill only 8 million pounds were returned.


oh geez!
i rarely go unless its for fries these days

"
and one company shipping 35 million pounds of tainted beef and then holding out on a recall for 3 months untill only 8 million pounds were returned"

i stopped eating fast food last yr for a while after i became ill from it ...now i think i know why ill neutral
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Reply #38 posted 09/03/03 10:04am

cborgman

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Christopher said:

cborgman said:

Christopher said:

cborgman said:

PREDOMINANT said:

I haven’t eaten a BK or Mc D since Xmas 2002 after reading Eric Schlosser’s “Fast Food Nation”.



Somehow the atrocities committed by McD corporation far exceeded that of KFC. A bit hypocritical I know but I am officially addicted to KFC kfc I don't know if I could get through a month without some finger-lickin-chicken!



i have not eaten any fast food at all after reading that great book, except for two local chains... one is a submarine shop, the other is a taco place.


dare i ask whats in that book mr.borgman? ill ?



call me chris, other chris... and you should read it. it is a fantastic expose of not only the horrible business practices of fast food companies, but also their criminal treatment of workers, and some of the many many MANY health problems they create. some moments that really got me was McD's telling vegetarians and hindus the fries were meat product free when they weren't, and one company shipping 35 million pounds of tainted beef and then holding out on a recall for 3 months untill only 8 million pounds were returned.


oh geez!
i rarely go unless its for fries these days

"
and one company shipping 35 million pounds of tainted beef and then holding out on a recall for 3 months untill only 8 million pounds were returned"

i stopped eating fast food last yr for a while after i became ill from it ...now i think i know why ill neutral


sadly, the only one that even tests their meat for ecoli is jack in the box. all of the others refuse to
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Reply #39 posted 09/03/03 10:08am

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Fast food = barf
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Reply #40 posted 09/03/03 10:12am

cborgman

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Cloudbuster said:

Fast food = barf


you've read the book?
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Reply #41 posted 09/03/03 10:13am

Christopher

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cborgman said:

Christopher said:

cborgman said:

Christopher said:

cborgman said:

PREDOMINANT said:

I haven’t eaten a BK or Mc D since Xmas 2002 after reading Eric Schlosser’s “Fast Food Nation”.



Somehow the atrocities committed by McD corporation far exceeded that of KFC. A bit hypocritical I know but I am officially addicted to KFC kfc I don't know if I could get through a month without some finger-lickin-chicken!



i have not eaten any fast food at all after reading that great book, except for two local chains... one is a submarine shop, the other is a taco place.


dare i ask whats in that book mr.borgman? ill ?



call me chris, other chris... and you should read it. it is a fantastic expose of not only the horrible business practices of fast food companies, but also their criminal treatment of workers, and some of the many many MANY health problems they create. some moments that really got me was McD's telling vegetarians and hindus the fries were meat product free when they weren't, and one company shipping 35 million pounds of tainted beef and then holding out on a recall for 3 months untill only 8 million pounds were returned.


oh geez!
i rarely go unless its for fries these days

"
and one company shipping 35 million pounds of tainted beef and then holding out on a recall for 3 months untill only 8 million pounds were returned"

i stopped eating fast food last yr for a while after i became ill from it ...now i think i know why ill neutral


sadly, the only one that even tests their meat for ecoli is jack in the box. all of the others refuse to


it was from jack in the box falloff maybe the cooks had it in for me

and ive had other funny things happen like a found a rock in my egg mcmuffin and seen other horrid stuff i dont wanna repeat ill
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Reply #42 posted 09/03/03 10:15am

cborgman

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Christopher said:

cborgman said:

Christopher said:

cborgman said:

Christopher said:

cborgman said:

PREDOMINANT said:

I haven’t eaten a BK or Mc D since Xmas 2002 after reading Eric Schlosser’s “Fast Food Nation”.



Somehow the atrocities committed by McD corporation far exceeded that of KFC. A bit hypocritical I know but I am officially addicted to KFC kfc I don't know if I could get through a month without some finger-lickin-chicken!



i have not eaten any fast food at all after reading that great book, except for two local chains... one is a submarine shop, the other is a taco place.


dare i ask whats in that book mr.borgman? ill ?



call me chris, other chris... and you should read it. it is a fantastic expose of not only the horrible business practices of fast food companies, but also their criminal treatment of workers, and some of the many many MANY health problems they create. some moments that really got me was McD's telling vegetarians and hindus the fries were meat product free when they weren't, and one company shipping 35 million pounds of tainted beef and then holding out on a recall for 3 months untill only 8 million pounds were returned.


oh geez!
i rarely go unless its for fries these days

"
and one company shipping 35 million pounds of tainted beef and then holding out on a recall for 3 months untill only 8 million pounds were returned"

i stopped eating fast food last yr for a while after i became ill from it ...now i think i know why ill neutral


sadly, the only one that even tests their meat for ecoli is jack in the box. all of the others refuse to


it was from jack in the box falloff maybe the cooks had it in for me

and ive had other funny things happen like a found a rock in my egg mcmuffin and seen other horrid stuff i dont wanna repeat ill


really read the book, it will strengthen your resolve about not eating it. the book honestly changed my life.
Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton
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Reply #43 posted 09/03/03 10:18am

Christopher

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cborgman said:

Christopher said:

cborgman said:

Christopher said:

cborgman said:

Christopher said:

cborgman said:

PREDOMINANT said:

I haven’t eaten a BK or Mc D since Xmas 2002 after reading Eric Schlosser’s “Fast Food Nation”.



Somehow the atrocities committed by McD corporation far exceeded that of KFC. A bit hypocritical I know but I am officially addicted to KFC kfc I don't know if I could get through a month without some finger-lickin-chicken!



i have not eaten any fast food at all after reading that great book, except for two local chains... one is a submarine shop, the other is a taco place.


dare i ask whats in that book mr.borgman? ill ?



call me chris, other chris... and you should read it. it is a fantastic expose of not only the horrible business practices of fast food companies, but also their criminal treatment of workers, and some of the many many MANY health problems they create. some moments that really got me was McD's telling vegetarians and hindus the fries were meat product free when they weren't, and one company shipping 35 million pounds of tainted beef and then holding out on a recall for 3 months untill only 8 million pounds were returned.


oh geez!
i rarely go unless its for fries these days

"
and one company shipping 35 million pounds of tainted beef and then holding out on a recall for 3 months untill only 8 million pounds were returned"

i stopped eating fast food last yr for a while after i became ill from it ...now i think i know why ill neutral


sadly, the only one that even tests their meat for ecoli is jack in the box. all of the others refuse to


it was from jack in the box falloff maybe the cooks had it in for me

and ive had other funny things happen like a found a rock in my egg mcmuffin and seen other horrid stuff i dont wanna repeat ill


really read the book, it will strengthen your resolve about not eating it. the book honestly changed my life.


i think might check it out...

i cook at home mostly now cause i know exactly what goes in my food smile
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Reply #44 posted 09/03/03 5:09pm

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irresistibleb1tch said:

Janfriend said:

I know I'm going to get flamed for this, but I don't understand why people put the value of an animal's life equal to, if not above, a human's


no flaming here, but frankly, i don't understand why some people don't see the inherent right of another sentient being to live without suffering.




i don't either. but since humans don't get it, then why should animals? i mean, i just spent a hot sweaty day in a corn field cramping up my fingers taking some completely useless notes on about 6,000 rows of corn and nobody's out there picketing for me...
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Reply #45 posted 09/04/03 2:36am

irresistibleb1
tch

AaronSuperior said:

irresistibleb1tch said:

Janfriend said:

I know I'm going to get flamed for this, but I don't understand why people put the value of an animal's life equal to, if not above, a human's


no flaming here, but frankly, i don't understand why some people don't see the inherent right of another sentient being to live without suffering.




i don't either. but since humans don't get it, then why should animals? i mean, i just spent a hot sweaty day in a corn field cramping up my fingers taking some completely useless notes on about 6,000 rows of corn and nobody's out there picketing for me...


there are lots of great organizations focused on workers' rights. just because you focus on one topic doesn't mean you're oblivious to others.
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Reply #46 posted 09/04/03 10:51pm

Janfriend

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Janfriend said:

I know I'm going to get flamed for this, but I don't understand why people put the value of an animal's life equal to, if not above, a human's


If I were given a gun and forced to shoot either a human or a chicken, I'd shoot the chicken, ok? That is not what this is about. Nobody needs to eat KFC to survive.

Making somebody suffer a miserable life and cruel death for the sake of happy tastebuds is sick and wrong.


...but I don't see an animal as somebody they're not people. I'm for animal testing, wearing fur, and I really don't care how an animal is killed, unless it is an animal I know, like my dog or cat. I really can't stand PETA. They're extreme
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