pejman said:

But look at the stage of their careers when they fought. He couldn't have fucked with Tyson when he was in his early 20's. As for the Holyfield fight the first one he won but the second he lost! They just gave it to him because he was robbed the first time around.
[This message was edited Wed Aug 27 0:26:43 PDT 2003 by sinisterpentatonic]

sinisterpentatonic said:

when this brotha focuses right no one out there can touch him

his jab has finished a few good boxers careers

plus he has taken on the best and took em all out

holyfield, tyson, mercer, tucker, razor ruddock, golota

sure he has lost a couple of fights from sucker punches, but that is the nature
of the heavyweight fight game. that is why it is so exciting
cos one punch can make a difference

i believe lennox has the speed, strength and stamina to take out most
heavyweights from history, barring muhammad ali.

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pejman said:

now that was one sweet knock out

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sinisterpentatonic said:

i agree, the second lewis v holyfield fight was mos def a draw.
lewis was robbed the first time round, and had won that fight clearly.
so i can believe they put a little fix on.

as for lewis v tyson, tyson is still the most dangerous heavyweight of all time
i have seen him up close, and he still got his speed and can still bang
tyson style is suited to fighting big men like lewis
where he comes from underneath and takes you out up close.
so i dont really hang weight to that arguement if they met up when they were younger
tyson is a bad mf, its just that on the night, lewis was badder

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[This message was edited Wed Aug 27 0:31:20 PDT 2003 by youngsoulrebel]

I Google too!

The best boxers of all time? That's hard to say. There are so many great boxers, I'm bound to leave someone off. But here's my list (not in any order):

1. Muhammad Ali
2. Willie Pep
3. Sugar Ray Leonard
4. Sugar Ray Robinson
5. Joe Louis
6. Julio Cesar Chavez
7. Marvin Hagler
8. Roberto Duran
9. Jersey Joe Walcott
10. Thomas "Hitman" Hearns

As I said, there're way too many good boxers out there. Other boxers I would've included are:

Pernell Whitaker
Archie Moore
Joe Frazier
Rocky Marciano
[This message was edited Wed Aug 27 5:12:09 PDT 2003 by NovaAngel]

Greats:

Rocky Marciano
Willie Pep
Sandy Sadler
Jack Dempsey
Sugar Ray Leonard
Roberto Duran
George Foreman
Julio Caesar Chavez
Cassius Clay
Ricardo Lopez
Sugar Ray Robinson
Gene Tunney
Harry Greb
Marvin Hagler
Thomas Hearns

Guys who will be on the list:

Bernard Hopkins
Evander Holyfield
Roy Jones, Jr.
Oscar De La Hoya
Felix Trinidad
Ricardo Mayorga
Marco Antonio Barrera
Erik Morales
Manny Paquiao
Arturo Gatti
Mickey Ward

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[This message was edited Wed Aug 27 5:18:14 PDT 2003 by IceNine]

IceNine said:

Damn, how could I forget Roy Jones, Gatti, and the rest ... Good list

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jersey joe walcott



floored rocky marciano before being ko'd int the 13th

dropped joe louis twice only losing to an unpopular split decision
louis even apologised, thinking walcott had won, himself.

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gene tunney



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youngsoulrebel said:

Jersey Joe was a bad motherfucker... that is a fact.

youngsoulrebel said:

Jersey Joe was the man! He had a very unique style. Really slick. If you can catch it, Sugar Ray Leonard did a little Jersey Joe imitation in the 11th round during his fight with Hagler back in '87.

jack dempsey

the manassa mauler



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YSR: Check my lists out and see if you agree or disagree with my choices.

NovaAngel said:

the "move away and step in right hand" move



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IceNine said:

Could you fill me in on Harry Greb? I don't know about his fight career.

youngsoulrebel said:

EXACTLY!

IceNine said:

yeah man, i go with nearly all your choices,

not many ppl would have listed foreman, but i agree with you.

now marciano on the other hand, the brockton blockbuster



that man had heart, beating up on his opponents arms
so they could not hold them up to defend themselves
he was a bad mf

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NovaAngel said:

Harry Greb - The Human Windmill
Record: 104-9-3

He threw TONS of punches from all angles... a few dozen elbows were also thrown into the mix... he was fast and had tremendous stamina. He is the only fighter who ever beat Gene Tunney.

He was a bad man... dirty fighter, but a bad motherfucker!

i am gonna even list frazier in my top ten



not that i like his style, but that man just kept coming
that is soul destroying
he a bad mf too

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IceNine said:

cool, i like him already

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youngsoulrebel said:

Marciano also holds the distinction of being the only heavyweight champion to ever retire undefeated... that is pretty cool.

George Foreman still has the highest knockout ratio of any heavyweight champion... if I recall correctly. Think of what he could have done if he hadn't retired at the peak of his career!

NovaAngel said:

I want all three of the Ward/Gatti fights on tape... NOW!!!

IceNine said:

yes true ..

i also agree with you about julio cesar chavez
he is a legend winning six world titles at three different weights



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[This message was edited Wed Aug 27 6:15:10 PDT 2003 by youngsoulrebel]

IceNine said:

me too

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