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Reply #60 posted 08/27/03 3:17am

VinaBlue

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Muffy said:

Every Day on T.V. all we see is Commercials for Food. Children's lunches are full of Fat and Sugar. The world Condems Fat people as Lazy,Horrible maybe even Dispicable people. Listen, it's Hard to Change Bones from the body. I have Anorexia. I ALWAYS FEEL FAT. I actually was throwing a Crying Fit in a bathroom at a major Dept store and the cops were called cause I was Hysterical. Why? Because they didn't have my size which is 2 in the Jeans I wanted.

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You just made my point about that book I was talking about. A crying fit bad enough to have the cops called because you're a size 2??? Girl, I wish I was a size 9!!! Are you getting help? None of my business, I know. Check out the Diet Cure. It's a great book. www.dietcure.com

So listen I do Feel for Overweight people. Going to the Gym may be Embarassing or a Drag but you know what I say? Just get a Stationary Bike at home and start drinking Lots of Water.


Good point. That's all we need really. But at a size 2, I think you're ok. wink
Ever go out to Eat? Ever Notice the portion Sizes? They make the Portion size Large Basically for Anyone's Appetite.

Another good point.
So if you are thin or if you are Large well you can eat what you Want. I think our Main Problem in this World is Control and How we are conditioned to Eat.

Right. We are brought up to eat the wrong things without realizing the damage we are doing over time. And it's not just physical damage.
People are Starving in Ethiopia,India so don't Waste. Well, do we then feel Compelled and Gluttonous to Always Finish Every last Morsal of Food from our Dishes? And what about SUPER SIZES or ALL YOU CAN EAT BUFFETS. AREn't they Grand? We can PIG-OUT to our HEARTS CONTENT. Yes, it's an International Problem. Listen I went to a Designer store where size 2 is Fat. All that was there was 0 and 1. Models are stick like with no Boobs basically. Nowadays more are getting Shapelier but runway they are Reed-Thin. I rip my underwear on the hip and rear waistband always. This used to be a joke my boyfriends used to call me big Ass.
That is so cruel. sad

Listen, if ya have the money just get Liposuction or Abdominal Surgery if you want the EASY WAY Out to Thinness. It works and it's Great. I've had it done 3x already and I'd tell anybody to do it. It's amazing and there are no Visible Scars. You would be Amazed at the RESULTS!

Still, that isn't the answer for everyone. The diet has to change as well.
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Reply #61 posted 08/27/03 3:30am

Novabreaker

I've actually gained some weight over the past few years and it's brilliant! Finally I know how it feels to eat at least ONE meal a day, and possibly even a breakfast on top of that. And if you really want to stretch it you can have a fruit or something in the evening. Amazing.

No more vomiting blood in the toilet, skin disorders relating to too strict diet and drastic hair-loss. But the thing is I went to my routine annual doctor's examination and he told me I should lose a couple of kilos. It's a bit weird, afterall you could place ping pong balls in some of the dents around my body before, now I'm not enough healthy when I'm not vomiting blood anymore. Why sure.
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Reply #62 posted 08/27/03 9:16am

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teller said:

NovaAngel said:

chemmie said:

NovaAngel said:

is it about Ayn Rand that most people like? Sorry but I'm not familiar with her work.



Rand basically preached a philosophy of self reliability, responsibility, accountability and personal freedom. the notion that the people have the ability to take care of themselves without a government watching and taking care of their whims.


...and get outta my way... and I owe my brothers and sisters nothing... and we're all individuals with no debt to history or society... and face it, we're not all equal...

she's quite "Brave New World" in her thinking (and I hear that she was a bigger skank than Courtney Love)


Thanks. I'll check it out.

Ayn Rand the greatest philosopher of the 20th century! nod
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Reply #63 posted 08/27/03 9:25am

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DudeDrops said:

Wanna know where the obesity epidemic came from? Capitalism.

Hold on a minute there, bucko. Capitalism is merely serving the pressure we now experience by supplying fast food to meet the demand. We wouldn't be so damned busy if taxes weren't so high. Pure, unfettered capitalism would permit you far more time to relax. You're feeling the crunch of high taxes which make ends impossible to meet, which are inherently anti-capitalist.



Teller omfg Did you just say "BUCKO"? shake
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Reply #64 posted 08/28/03 7:17am

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YA, IN MY VEELAGE WE HAV STARBOKS AND MAKDONALDS AND I DREENK AND EAT THIS ALL THE TIME. NOW I'M REELY FET.
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Reply #65 posted 08/28/03 7:43am

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DudeDrops said:

OK...to all you idiots who are thinking it's easy to lose weight, I have one thing to say to you...

PISS OFF!!!

Listen, losing weight is VERY VERY hard while unfortunately gaining it is VERY VERY easy. We live in a world of fast food, 7-11s and where Food Additives are almost a food group unto themselves.

I'm skinny as hell but I know so many wonderful people who are overweight who are constantly frowned upon. Do you think anyone who's overweight WANTED to get that way???!?!? Don't you think that they've tried exercising, crash diets and even starvation. Fuck, I've dated two women who had eating disorders because of our society's OBSESSION with skinny women.

We are busier now than any time in history and due to this social change, fast food restaurants are among the most successful businesses out there. Who the fuck has time to cook?!! Who the fuck has time--or money--to join a fucking Gold's Gym while taking care of the kids AND trying to make ends meet?

Wanna know where the obesity epidemic came from? Capitalism.
Read the book "Fast Food Nation" if you don't believe me. You really are what you eat, people. Obese people are PEOPLE. NONE of them MEANT to get that way. Do you know what it's like to have to deal with the jeers, the embarrassing trips to the plus size stores and the feeling that everyone is staring at you?

And to those men who have a "thing" for the skinny, blonde women in Maxim and who still thinks that one day he'll find his living Barbie doll...FUCK YOU.

"Someday he'll have to grow up and come clean/
Listening to the cry of his own conscience."
--THE THE

Real Women Have Curves, people. Think about it.



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Reply #66 posted 08/28/03 7:46am

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DudeDrops said:

teller said:

DudeDrops said:

Teller, we disagree on the Capitalism Vs. Socialism bit, but that's OK. I like your positive attitude in regards to facing your business failure and intending to being successful in the future. I dislike Capitalism because it seems to be a form of Economic Fundamentalism. People will die and kill over money just as they die and kill over religion. My Dad was a rich business owner at one time--we had a Jaguar, owned our home in full, even had a pool installed. But that money went up in a cloud of smoke caused by the fires of recession and economic fallout. There's NOTHING wrong with having money, but the people who have money seem to forget what it was like to struggle and do nothing to improve the world and TRY AND IMPROVE 'THE SYSTEM.'

Actually, I'm equally impressed that YOU know Neo-Tech. But how are they Objectivist rejects??
Don't mind me...I'm in this "arrogant know-it-all mafia" mode right now so I'm lashing out at everyone! :LOL:

Neo-tech is just fuckin' strange. Objectivism is based on reason, not religion. Neo-tech reads like a sales-pitch...nothing but bizarre promises and no real focus on the details of important philosophy for life on earth.


Omigod, that's SOOO true! I have TWO Neo-Tech books: The Neo-Tech Discovery and Zonpower. But the books don't really tell you HOW to EXECUTE the points in the books. I actually agree with some of the points made, but the books are not very user-friendly. Another philosophy that I dislike is L.Ron Hubbard's Dianetics. I read most of the book and it strikes me as being Christian Science minus the Christianity. I'm the K-mart shopper of religion and philosophy. I've looked at 'em all, but until one really grabs me, I'll stick with good, old fashioned Nihilism.


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Reply #67 posted 08/28/03 7:59am

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Gotta love Morrissey!


You're the One for me, fatty
You're the One I really, really love
And I will stay
Promise you'll say
If I'm in your way
You're the One for me, fatty
You're the One I really, really love
And I will stay
Promise you'll say
If I'm ever in your way
A-hey

All over Battersea
Some hope; and some despair
All over Battersea
Some hope; and some despair
Oh ...


You're the One for me, fatty
You're the One I really, really love
And I will stay
Promise you'll say
If I'm in your way
You're the One for me, fatty
You're the One I really, really love
And I will stay
Promise you'll say
If I'm ever in your way
A-hey


All over Battersea
Some hope; and some despair
All over Battersea
Some hope; and some despair
Oh, oh ...


You're the One for me, fatty
You're the One I really, really love
And I will stay
Promise you'll say
If I'm ever in your way
A-hey


You're the One for me, fatty
You're the One for me, a-hey-hey
A-hey
A-hey
A-hey
A-he-he-he-hey
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Reply #68 posted 08/28/03 8:50am

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DudeDrops said:

OK...to all you idiots who are thinking it's easy to lose weight, I have one thing to say to you...

PISS OFF!!!

Listen, losing weight is VERY VERY hard while unfortunately gaining it is VERY VERY easy. We live in a world of fast food, 7-11s and where Food Additives are almost a food group unto themselves.

I'm skinny as hell but I know so many wonderful people who are overweight who are constantly frowned upon. Do you think anyone who's overweight WANTED to get that way???!?!? Don't you think that they've tried exercising, crash diets and even starvation. Fuck, I've dated two women who had eating disorders because of our society's OBSESSION with skinny women.

We are busier now than any time in history and due to this social change, fast food restaurants are among the most successful businesses out there. Who the fuck has time to cook?!! Who the fuck has time--or money--to join a fucking Gold's Gym while taking care of the kids AND trying to make ends meet?

Wanna know where the obesity epidemic came from? Capitalism.
Read the book "Fast Food Nation" if you don't believe me. You really are what you eat, people. Obese people are PEOPLE. NONE of them MEANT to get that way. Do you know what it's like to have to deal with the jeers, the embarrassing trips to the plus size stores and the feeling that everyone is staring at you?

And to those men who have a "thing" for the skinny, blonde women in Maxim and who still thinks that one day he'll find his living Barbie doll...FUCK YOU.

"Someday he'll have to grow up and come clean/
Listening to the cry of his own conscience."
--THE THE

Real Women Have Curves, people. Think about it.

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Reply #69 posted 08/28/03 9:59am

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DudeDrops said:

OK...to all you idiots who are thinking it's easy to lose weight, I have one thing to say to you...

PISS OFF!!!

Listen, losing weight is VERY VERY hard while unfortunately gaining it is VERY VERY easy. We live in a world of fast food, 7-11s and where Food Additives are almost a food group unto themselves.

I'm skinny as hell but I know so many wonderful people who are overweight who are constantly frowned upon. Do you think anyone who's overweight WANTED to get that way???!?!? Don't you think that they've tried exercising, crash diets and even starvation. Fuck, I've dated two women who had eating disorders because of our society's OBSESSION with skinny women.

We are busier now than any time in history and due to this social change, fast food restaurants are among the most successful businesses out there. Who the fuck has time to cook?!! Who the fuck has time--or money--to join a fucking Gold's Gym while taking care of the kids AND trying to make ends meet?

Wanna know where the obesity epidemic came from? Capitalism.
Read the book "Fast Food Nation" if you don't believe me. You really are what you eat, people. Obese people are PEOPLE. NONE of them MEANT to get that way. Do you know what it's like to have to deal with the jeers, the embarrassing trips to the plus size stores and the feeling that everyone is staring at you?

And to those men who have a "thing" for the skinny, blonde women in Maxim and who still thinks that one day he'll find his living Barbie doll...FUCK YOU.

"Someday he'll have to grow up and come clean/
Listening to the cry of his own conscience."
--THE THE

Real Women Have Curves, people. Think about it.



eh. Im tubby. my woman is tubby. our friends are tubby. why? because we try working out and dieting. but we dont stick to it. it is only hard to loose weight if you have a genetic problem or you cannot commit. stop trying to pass the buck. the fast food joints dont force people to drive up and get a triple cheeseburger with large fries and biggie doctor pepper! the only thing that makes people fat (again, besides genetic defects) is a laziness to commit and irresponsibility. im guilty of it myself but i dont go whining about it and trying to come up with a bullshit excuse.

but i do agree with the real women have curves part. i have been called a chubby chaser on more than one occasion. oh well.
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Reply #70 posted 08/28/03 10:25am

Pochacco

jackflash said:

You're right and I, for one, can't stand all those fucking fat-asses all over the damn place. I have zero sympathy for those disgusting sons of bitches.

Hey you fat bastards, why don't you eat a salad and some broiled fish instead of that fried crap, and stop messing up my view!


Man what a fucking shitty thing to say.Ive been there and battled weight all my life and believe me it isnt easy.

At present Ive lost 64 pounds and at quite a respectable weight,would ideally like to lose another 10 pounds or so .

Do you have any idea what its like to have people look down on you like a second class citizen?Have complete strangers call you a fat c*nt and such like,yes it happens.

Obesity really is a vicious circle,well it was for me

You get overweight,its easy enough to do

You get depressed cause of your size and food seems to offer some kind of comfort

Anyway what Im trying to say,sure there are people out there that are little piggies but show everyone a little compassion,you dont know their circumstances

Im ranting,sorry

Much love yes Pochacco
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Reply #71 posted 08/28/03 10:27am

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Pochacco said:

Im ranting,sorry


Don't be sorry, Pete. Some people are just fucking rude.
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Reply #72 posted 08/28/03 10:29am

Pochacco

Cloudbuster said:

Pochacco said:

Im ranting,sorry


Don't be sorry, Pete. Some people are just fucking rude.


Thanks Ballbuster

hug

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Reply #73 posted 08/28/03 10:31am

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Pochacco said:

Cloudbuster said:

Pochacco said:

Im ranting,sorry


Don't be sorry, Pete. Some people are just fucking rude.


Thanks Ballbuster

hug


You're welcome. wink
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Reply #74 posted 08/28/03 10:33am

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Cloudbuster said:

Pochacco said:

Cloudbuster said:

Pochacco said:

Im ranting,sorry


Don't be sorry, Pete. Some people are just fucking rude.


Thanks Ballbuster

hug


You're welcome. wink


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Reply #75 posted 08/28/03 10:42am

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AnotherLoverToo said:

pooptoast


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