Help! I cannot control my arms and legs! I am driving to McDonald's because this capitalist system is forcing me to! I am a puppet! Darn those rich people!

july said:

and grab some tea or spring water... It's time people... Awww... Refreshing... ... lol...

teller said:

Read the book "Fast Food Nation," an EXCELLENT piece of OBJECTIVE journalism that uses FACTS, not OPINIONS. Your statement--though sarcastic--is closer to the truth than you realise...

DudeDrops said:

It's a conspiracy!

Sheeeit... my lower-middle-class broke ass made a million dollars out of hard work and brains once upon a time in the 90's...and I'll do it again.

You go ask Mommy Government to feed you some carrots and celery because that mean old Ronald McDonald tried to poison you!

Sheeeit...grow some balls.

teller said:

McDonalds are evil capitalists




























Burger King on the other hand

teller said:

I agree, no one is forcing anybody. It's the free world where people can choose. And look, a majority goes off eating fast food, getting fat, beeing a burden on themselves and on society. Quite a result.

Ardeo said:

I tried that new chicken caesar salad club sandwich thingy they got...not bad, but not as good as looked on TV.

SpcMs said:

I am burden to no one. At 50% taxes, I pay YOUR McDonalds.

teller said:

Dora and me can now feel safe in knowin that if the plain goes down, we'll have more than enough to eat

DudeDrops said:

Neo-tech! :LOL: I'm an Objectivist, and those guys are the rejects from Objectivism. Psycho. But it's neat that you've heard of them. I'm impressed.


Other people's neurotic behavior isn't my concern.


It does speak volumes...it says that I failed. And I'm not afraid to fail again.

teller said:

Teller, no offense but I have a whole new respect for you.
This is intelligent histyrical

IMO, the point of this thread should be who's going to pay for the healthcare as a result of this.

Diabetes, heart failure, thickening arteries all sounds like a good trade for a 15% feces sandwich for $1.99

teller said:

Teller, we disagree on the Capitalism Vs. Socialism bit, but that's OK. I like your positive attitude in regards to facing your business failure and intending to being successful in the future. I dislike Capitalism because it seems to be a form of Economic Fundamentalism. People will die and kill over money just as they die and kill over religion. My Dad was a rich business owner at one time--we had a Jaguar, owned our home in full, even had a pool installed. But that money went up in a cloud of smoke caused by the fires of recession and economic fallout. There's NOTHING wrong with having money, but the people who have money seem to forget what it was like to struggle and do nothing to improve the world and TRY AND IMPROVE 'THE SYSTEM.'

Actually, I'm equally impressed that YOU know Neo-Tech. But how are they Objectivist rejects??

DudeDrops said:

Don't mind me...I'm in this "arrogant know-it-all mafia" mode right now so I'm lashing out at everyone! :LOL:

Neo-tech is just fuckin' strange. Objectivism is based on reason, not religion. Neo-tech reads like a sales-pitch...nothing but bizarre promises and no real focus on the details of important philosophy for life on earth.

teller said:

Omigod, that's SOOO true! I have TWO Neo-Tech books: The Neo-Tech Discovery and Zonpower. But the books don't really tell you HOW to EXECUTE the points in the books. I actually agree with some of the points made, but the books are not very user-friendly. Another philosophy that I dislike is L.Ron Hubbard's Dianetics. I read most of the book and it strikes me as being Christian Science minus the Christianity. I'm the K-mart shopper of religion and philosophy. I've looked at 'em all, but until one really grabs me, I'll stick with good, old fashioned Nihilism.

july said:

What the hell?

Although I know that this subect may be a source of humor for some, I never meant it to be. I see it more as a health issue and was caught off guard in my assumption that the issue of obesity was less of a problem in countries I thought were more moderate in their dietary habits.
I know this is a sensitive topic for many folks but that doesn't mean that it shouldn't or can't be reasonably discussed.
[This message was edited Tue Aug 26 17:16:51 PDT 2003 by NovaAngel]

DudeDrops said:

Well...I recommend "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand.

DudeDrops said:

The CEO for Colgate/Polmolive doesnt have to wash dishes because he most likely has a doctorate or a masters degree or at least has a large working knowledge about running his/her company.
Money is earned. In order to earn good money you need one of three things. 1. Good work ethic and experience. 2. Education or 3. An in demand skill or trade.

if you do not have one of those three things, you will be washing dishes.

i dont see many people with masters degrees washing dishes do you?



as for fat people. they are a product of their own lack of personal responsibility. some are medically obese, that is a problem. but most are obese because of their own poor choices.
it all comes down to personal responsibility and accountability. i know those two values have deminished to almost nothing thanks to liberalism, but that is still no excuse for allowing yourself to become a fatass and blaiming somebody else.

i blame myself for my fat ass. i dont exercise enough and damn those Peroggies were great tonight with cheese and sour cream!

teller said:

Don't kill me...but I dislike Rand's philosophy. I read most of The Fountainhead and saw it as being mental masturbation. But I KNOW I'm outnumbered in this one--LOTS of people love Rand.

chemmie said:[quote]

DudeDrops said:

The CEO for Colgate/Polmolive doesnt have to wash dishes because he most likely has a doctorate or a masters degree or at least has a large working knowledge about running his/her company.
Money is earned. In order to earn good money you need one of three things. 1. Good work ethic and experience. 2. Education or 3. An in demand skill or trade.

if you do not have one of those three things, you will be washing dishes.

i dont see many people with masters degrees washing dishes do you?





Good point. Go on with your phat self!

DudeDrops said:

What is it about Ayn Rand that most people like? Sorry but I'm not familiar with her work.

DudeDrops said:

Very well said...I luv ya man

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[This message was edited Tue Aug 26 17:27:59 PDT 2003 by Nikster]

DudeDrops said:

I'll kill you later.

NovaAngel said:

Rand basically preached a philosophy of self reliability, responsibility, accountability and personal freedom. the notion that the people have the ability to take care of themselves without a government watching and taking care of their whims.

chemmie said:

Thanks. I'll check it out.

NovaAngel said:

Ayn Rand the greatest philosopher of the 20th century!

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PANDURITO said:

SCORE!!

I love that shit.

Every Day on T.V. all we see is Commercials for Food. Children's lunches are full of Fat and Sugar. The world Condems Fat people as Lazy,Horrible maybe even Dispicable people. Listen, it's Hard to Change Bones from the body. I have Anorexia. I ALWAYS FEEL FAT. I actually was throwing a Crying Fit in a bathroom at a major Dept store and the cops were called cause I was Hysterical. Why? Because they didn't have my size which is 2 in the Jeans I wanted. So listen I do Feel for Overweight people. Going to the Gym may be Embarassing or a Drag but you know what I say? Just get a Stationary Bike at home and start drinking Lots of Water. Ever go out to Eat? Ever Notice the portion Sizes? They make the Portion size Large Basically for Anyone's Appetite. So if you are thin or if you are Large well you can eat what you Want. I think our Main Problem in this World is Control and How we are conditioned to Eat. People are Starving in Ethiopia,India so don't Waste. Well, do we then feel Compelled and Gluttonous to Always Finish Every last Morsal of Food from our Dishes? And what about SUPER SIZES or ALL YOU CAN EAT BUFFETS. AREn't they Grand? We can PIG-OUT to our HEARTS CONTENT. Yes, it's an International Problem. Listen I went to a Designer store where size 2 is Fat. All that was there was 0 and 1. Models are stick like with no Boobs basically. Nowadays more are getting Shapelier but runway they are Reed-Thin. I rip my underwear on the hip and rear waistband always. This used to be a joke my boyfriends used to call me big Ass. Listen, if ya have the money just get Liposuction or Abdominal Surgery if you want the EASY WAY Out to Thinness. It works and it's Great. I've had it done 3x already and I'd tell anybody to do it. It's amazing and there are no Visible Scars. You would be Amazed at the RESULTS!

The Diet Cure is also a really good book to read. www.dietcure.com It's mainly a nutrition book, and it talks about the American Diet and how it's loaded with fats and carbs and sugars which are extremely detrimental to our brain chemistry. Of course there is the weight issue as well.

As far as personal responsibility, I understand that point. However after reading this book and seeing how parents take their children to McDonalds without really thinking about what that does to their bodies...
Then I go to work and see teenagers get on the bus with sodas and slurpees at 8am and I cringe. I'm not blaming anyone for my health issues, BUT when parents start their kids early with bad habits you can't say it's just a personal responsibility and will power thing.

This isn't just a weight issue. It's brain chemistry as well. Carbs and sugars are addicting. People use them to cope with their lives, seriously. It sounds silly, but when I reduced my sugar and carb intake I felt much better and more alive. When I got back into bad habbits I felt like SHIT. And when you don't have as much carbs and sugars for a while and then just have a little bit again you'll notice your body freaking out. Heart beat acceleration, jittery, mood swings, headaches, and it's an endless cycle that you need more carbs and sugars to deal with. Same goes for caffeine.