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NovaAngel

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Obesity is now an international problem

http://story.news.yahoo.c...d_fat_dc_1

I've also read an article in Newsweek stating that the Chinese are having problems as well and while other countries have to deal with this problem, America unfortunately still leads the rest with a higher percentage of obesity among it's population. I had no idea it was this much of a problem in other countries. disbelief
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Reply #1 posted 08/26/03 12:10pm

Ardeo

everyones a pig

the pigs are infuriated

..havent u ever seen Animal Farm? confuse (not the porno rolleyes)
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Reply #2 posted 08/26/03 12:31pm

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It must be all of those international Mickey D's and KFC food chains. kfc

burger
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Reply #3 posted 08/26/03 12:32pm

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You're right and I, for one, can't stand all those fucking fat-asses all over the damn place. I have zero sympathy for those disgusting sons of bitches.

Hey you fat bastards, why don't you eat a salad and some broiled fish instead of that fried crap, and stop messing up my view!
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Reply #4 posted 08/26/03 12:36pm

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sinisterpentatonic said:

It must be all of those international Mickey D's and KFC food chains. kfc

burger

I think that's what it is...
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Reply #5 posted 08/26/03 12:46pm

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sinisterpentatonic said:

It must be all of those international Mickey D's and KFC food chains. kfc

burger
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Yeah but I always thought the Mickey D's in other countries were healthier for some reason. They just slapped a "Mc" on whatever it is they usually eat. Like a Big Macfalafel can't be as bad as the Big Macs in the U.S...can it? boxed
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Reply #6 posted 08/26/03 12:49pm

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NovaAngel said:

sinisterpentatonic said:

It must be all of those international Mickey D's and KFC food chains. kfc

burger
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Yeah but I always thought the Mickey D's in other countries were healthier for some reason. They just slapped a "Mc" on whatever it is they usually eat. Like a Big Macfalafel can't be as bad as the Big Macs in the U.S...can it? boxed


Damn there's a such thing as a Big Macfalafel? drool
How about umm Mctikka chicken breast? hmmm
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Reply #7 posted 08/26/03 1:06pm

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all it takes is 30 minutes a day of good, hard exercise. 30 minutes! thats it!

you do that, you will not get fat.

and drink water! or at least diet soda. you know how many calories are in those super sized regular sodas? it's empty calories... just have a diet soda even if you got 3 big macs and 3 large fries. every little bit helps in the long run.
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Reply #8 posted 08/26/03 1:08pm

Freespirit

Moderation is key, it doesn't matter the content.

~There are medical alerts to contribute as well, it's not entirely due to over consumption/poor dietary selections... but the percentage is high.

Perhaps sitting at the pc for hours a day and watching too much T.V, is a contributor as well. nod

Get moving... yay!
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Reply #9 posted 08/26/03 1:13pm

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chemmie said:

all it takes is 30 minutes a day of good, hard exercise. 30 minutes! thats it!

you do that, you will not get fat.

and drink water! or at least diet soda. you know how many calories are in those super sized regular sodas? it's empty calories... just have a diet soda even if you got 3 big macs and 3 large fries. every little bit helps in the long run.


or 30 minutes a day of good hard fucking...
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Reply #10 posted 08/26/03 1:39pm

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sinisterpentatonic said:



Damn there's a such thing as a Big Macfalafel? drool
How about umm Mctikka chicken breast? hmmm


TIKKA CHICKEN!

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Reply #11 posted 08/26/03 3:04pm

DudeDrops

OK...to all you idiots who are thinking it's easy to lose weight, I have one thing to say to you...

PISS OFF!!!

Listen, losing weight is VERY VERY hard while unfortunately gaining it is VERY VERY easy. We live in a world of fast food, 7-11s and where Food Additives are almost a food group unto themselves.

I'm skinny as hell but I know so many wonderful people who are overweight who are constantly frowned upon. Do you think anyone who's overweight WANTED to get that way???!?!? Don't you think that they've tried exercising, crash diets and even starvation. Fuck, I've dated two women who had eating disorders because of our society's OBSESSION with skinny women.

We are busier now than any time in history and due to this social change, fast food restaurants are among the most successful businesses out there. Who the fuck has time to cook?!! Who the fuck has time--or money--to join a fucking Gold's Gym while taking care of the kids AND trying to make ends meet?

Wanna know where the obesity epidemic came from? Capitalism.
Read the book "Fast Food Nation" if you don't believe me. You really are what you eat, people. Obese people are PEOPLE. NONE of them MEANT to get that way. Do you know what it's like to have to deal with the jeers, the embarrassing trips to the plus size stores and the feeling that everyone is staring at you?

And to those men who have a "thing" for the skinny, blonde women in Maxim and who still thinks that one day he'll find his living Barbie doll...FUCK YOU.

"Someday he'll have to grow up and come clean/
Listening to the cry of his own conscience."
--THE THE

Real Women Have Curves, people. Think about it.
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Reply #12 posted 08/26/03 3:29pm

PANDURITO

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DudeDrops said:

The Truth


I'm with you nod
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Reply #13 posted 08/26/03 3:37pm

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those fucking fats! always spreading their agenda...
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Reply #14 posted 08/26/03 3:44pm

DudeDrops

AaronSuperior said:

those fucking fats! always spreading their agenda...



Aaron...I like you. But if you keep talkin' like a bitch, I'm gonna slap you like a bitch wink
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Reply #15 posted 08/26/03 3:46pm

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DudeDrops said:

AaronSuperior said:

those fucking fats! always spreading their agenda...



Aaron...I like you. But if you keep talkin' like a bitch, I'm gonna slap you like a bitch wink




it was supposed to be ironic. or whatever it is we're supposed to be post-90's wink
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Reply #16 posted 08/26/03 3:47pm

DudeDrops

AaronSuperior said:

DudeDrops said:

AaronSuperior said:

those fucking fats! always spreading their agenda...



Aaron...I like you. But if you keep talkin' like a bitch, I'm gonna slap you like a bitch wink




it was supposed to be ironic. or whatever it is we're supposed to be post-90's wink



Gotcha. Irony can't always be picked up on through a posting. It's all good.
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Reply #17 posted 08/26/03 3:48pm

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DudeDrops said:

OK...to all you idiots who are thinking it's easy to lose weight, I have one thing to say to you...

PISS OFF!!!

Listen, losing weight is VERY VERY hard while unfortunately gaining it is VERY VERY easy. We live in a world of fast food, 7-11s and where Food Additives are almost a food group unto themselves.

I'm skinny as hell but I know so many wonderful people who are overweight who are constantly frowned upon. Do you think anyone who's overweight WANTED to get that way???!?!? Don't you think that they've tried exercising, crash diets and even starvation. Fuck, I've dated two women who had eating disorders because of our society's OBSESSION with skinny women.

We are busier now than any time in history and due to this social change, fast food restaurants are among the most successful businesses out there. Who the fuck has time to cook?!! Who the fuck has time--or money--to join a fucking Gold's Gym while taking care of the kids AND trying to make ends meet?

Wanna know where the obesity epidemic came from? Capitalism.
Read the book "Fast Food Nation" if you don't believe me. You really are what you eat, people. Obese people are PEOPLE. NONE of them MEANT to get that way. Do you know what it's like to have to deal with the jeers, the embarrassing trips to the plus size stores and the feeling that everyone is staring at you?

And to those men who have a "thing" for the skinny, blonde women in Maxim and who still thinks that one day he'll find his living Barbie doll...FUCK YOU.

"Someday he'll have to grow up and come clean/
Listening to the cry of his own conscience."
--THE THE

Real Women Have Curves, people. Think about it.

omfg

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Reply #18 posted 08/26/03 3:53pm

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DudeDrops said:

Wanna know where the obesity epidemic came from? Capitalism.

Hold on a minute there, bucko. Capitalism is merely serving the pressure we now experience by supplying fast food to meet the demand. We wouldn't be so damned busy if taxes weren't so high. Pure, unfettered capitalism would permit you far more time to relax. You're feeling the crunch of high taxes which make ends impossible to meet, which are inherently anti-capitalist.
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Reply #19 posted 08/26/03 4:00pm

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teller said:

DudeDrops said:

Wanna know where the obesity epidemic came from? Capitalism.

Hold on a minute there, bucko. Capitalism is merely serving the pressure we now experience by supplying fast food to meet the demand. We wouldn't be so damned busy if taxes weren't so high. Pure, unfettered capitalism would permit you far more time to relax. You're feeling the crunch of high taxes which make ends impossible to meet, which are inherently anti-capitalist.

ROTFL! You are one funny SOB!!!
Guess what the most capitalist country in the world is (well, top 3 at least). Than, guess what the most obese country in the world is.
Mayb u should bring out your friggin Laffer curve to show how 'fat' it goes at 50% taxes and how skinny it goes at 15% taxes (yes, you will get equally skinny as those soviet fucks who payed 75%). Laffer is a genius, man!
nuts

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Reply #20 posted 08/26/03 4:04pm

DudeDrops

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DudeDrops said:

Wanna know where the obesity epidemic came from? Capitalism.

Hold on a minute there, bucko. Capitalism is merely serving the pressure we now experience by supplying fast food to meet the demand. We wouldn't be so damned busy if taxes weren't so high. Pure, unfettered capitalism would permit you far more time to relax. You're feeling the crunch of high taxes which make ends impossible to meet, which are inherently anti-capitalist.



OK, waaait a second. How would pure, unfettered capitalism permit more time to relax? Capitalism puts PROFIT at the center. If a company makes RECORD profits one year, the following year, they must EXCEED that profit. Consequently, they will do WHATEVER IT TAKES to REACH THAT GOAL, which means working TWICE AS HARD. The supply and demand that you speak of in regards to fast food is a sign that THE SOCIAL MACHINERY of capitalism has overtaken the HUMANS who created it. Modern capitalism is a Frankenstein monster. And the anti-tax capitalist mentality is bogus. Business owners hate socialist ideas for one very simple reason--it would allow them to treat their workers HOWEVER THE FUCK THEY WANTED TO. What goes through a BUSINESS OWNERS head the moment you say these terms: STANDARD-OF-LIVING WAGE, INCREASED MINIMUM WAGE (which by the way, is worth less now than it was in 1965) and my personal favorite--UNION.
No, I'm NOT a Communist. Communism doesn't work because people want TO OWN THINGS. But I hate this Capitalism-As-Religion mentality that both Republicans AND Democrats hold as their basic dogma.
What kills me is that so many of these Republicans are Christians AND rich. But what does the Bible say about rich men and a camel and the eye of the needle? Hmmm...they must have missed Sunday school that day...
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SpcMs

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DudeDrops said:

OK, waaait a second. How would pure, unfettered capitalism permit more time to relax? Capitalism puts PROFIT at the center. If a company makes RECORD profits one year, the following year, they must EXCEED that profit. Consequently, they will do WHATEVER IT TAKES to REACH THAT GOAL, which means working TWICE AS HARD. The supply and demand that you speak of in regards to fast food is a sign that THE SOCIAL MACHINERY of capitalism has overtaken the HUMANS who created it. Modern capitalism is a Frankenstein monster. And the anti-tax capitalist mentality is bogus. Business owners hate socialist ideas for one very simple reason--it would allow them to treat their workers HOWEVER THE FUCK THEY WANTED TO. What goes through a BUSINESS OWNERS head the moment you say these terms: STANDARD-OF-LIVING WAGE, INCREASED MINIMUM WAGE (which by the way, is worth less now than it was in 1965) and my personal favorite--UNION.
No, I'm NOT a Communist. Communism doesn't work because people want TO OWN THINGS. But I hate this Capitalism-As-Religion mentality that both Republicans AND Democrats hold as their basic dogma.
What kills me is that so many of these Republicans are Christians AND rich. But what does the Bible say about rich men and a camel and the eye of the needle? Hmmm...they must have missed Sunday school that day...

Uh-Ow, u asked for trouble mister! Teller will xplain to you that taxes are very devilish. And so is any gouvernement regulation! Because, when you take all that away, wealth (which is of course thé standard for happiness) will go through the roof and everybody will be rich and earn more money than any minimum wage you can imagine! Really!!! (hey, i'm getting there Teller boy, right?)
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Reply #22 posted 08/26/03 4:10pm

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SpcMs said:

teller said:

DudeDrops said:

Wanna know where the obesity epidemic came from? Capitalism.

Hold on a minute there, bucko. Capitalism is merely serving the pressure we now experience by supplying fast food to meet the demand. We wouldn't be so damned busy if taxes weren't so high. Pure, unfettered capitalism would permit you far more time to relax. You're feeling the crunch of high taxes which make ends impossible to meet, which are inherently anti-capitalist.

ROTFL! You are one funny SOB!!!
Guess what the most capitalist country in the world is (well, top 3 at least). Than, guess what the most obese country in the world is.
Mayb u should bring out your friggin Laffer curve to show how 'fat' it goes at 50% taxes and how skinny it goes at 15% taxes (yes, you will get equally skinny as those soviet fucks who payed 75%). Laffer is a genius, man!
nuts

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You're one of those geniuses from the P&R forum...
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Reply #23 posted 08/26/03 4:14pm

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DudeDrops said:

OK, waaait a second. How would pure, unfettered capitalism permit more time to relax? Capitalism puts PROFIT at the center. If a company makes RECORD profits one year, the following year, they must EXCEED that profit. Consequently, they will do WHATEVER IT TAKES to REACH THAT GOAL, which means working TWICE AS HARD. The supply and demand that you speak of in regards to fast food is a sign that THE SOCIAL MACHINERY of capitalism has overtaken the HUMANS who created it. Modern capitalism is a Frankenstein monster. And the anti-tax capitalist mentality is bogus. Business owners hate socialist ideas for one very simple reason--it would allow them to treat their workers HOWEVER THE FUCK THEY WANTED TO. What goes through a BUSINESS OWNERS head the moment you say these terms: STANDARD-OF-LIVING WAGE, INCREASED MINIMUM WAGE (which by the way, is worth less now than it was in 1965) and my personal favorite--UNION.
No, I'm NOT a Communist. Communism doesn't work because people want TO OWN THINGS. But I hate this Capitalism-As-Religion mentality that both Republicans AND Democrats hold as their basic dogma.
What kills me is that so many of these Republicans are Christians AND rich. But what does the Bible say about rich men and a camel and the eye of the needle? Hmmm...they must have missed Sunday school that day...
Once upon a time, a family worked all day long just to put food on the table. Today we really do loaf around a lot more than the "good old days." That's because we have inventions, machines, products of capitalism that increase the efficiency of every person.

But I can see that you don't believe in the miracle that you see all around you. Maybe you should advocate raising taxes to 100% to make life better. After all, Uncle Sam knows better than every man and woman how to spend their money. And Uncle Sam cares more about how it is spent than you do I guess. And Uncle would have invented the light-bulb out the goodness of his heart...eventually...maybe...

Have it it.

This is why I left the P&R forum. disbelief
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Reply #24 posted 08/26/03 4:15pm

SpcMs

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teller said:

You're one of those geniuses from the P&R forum...

No, that would b You & Chemmie & co. I'm one of the moron idealists (dare i say, socialists) from P&R. Very very devilish indeed.
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Reply #25 posted 08/26/03 4:17pm

DudeDrops

SpcMs said:

DudeDrops said:

OK, waaait a second. How would pure, unfettered capitalism permit more time to relax? Capitalism puts PROFIT at the center. If a company makes RECORD profits one year, the following year, they must EXCEED that profit. Consequently, they will do WHATEVER IT TAKES to REACH THAT GOAL, which means working TWICE AS HARD. The supply and demand that you speak of in regards to fast food is a sign that THE SOCIAL MACHINERY of capitalism has overtaken the HUMANS who created it. Modern capitalism is a Frankenstein monster. And the anti-tax capitalist mentality is bogus. Business owners hate socialist ideas for one very simple reason--it would allow them to treat their workers HOWEVER THE FUCK THEY WANTED TO. What goes through a BUSINESS OWNERS head the moment you say these terms: STANDARD-OF-LIVING WAGE, INCREASED MINIMUM WAGE (which by the way, is worth less now than it was in 1965) and my personal favorite--UNION.
No, I'm NOT a Communist. Communism doesn't work because people want TO OWN THINGS. But I hate this Capitalism-As-Religion mentality that both Republicans AND Democrats hold as their basic dogma.
What kills me is that so many of these Republicans are Christians AND rich. But what does the Bible say about rich men and a camel and the eye of the needle? Hmmm...they must have missed Sunday school that day...

Uh-Ow, u asked for trouble mister! Teller will xplain to you that taxes are very devilish. And so is any gouvernement regulation! Because, when you take all that away, wealth (which is of course thé standard for happiness) will go through the roof and everybody will be rich and earn more money than any minimum wage you can imagine! Really!!! (hey, i'm getting there Teller boy, right?)


But thanks to Capitalism we have a social system called The Class System. You got Poor, Rich and there is the myth of the Middle Class. That wealth that you speak of would ONLY go to the rich. Why? Because our social structure RELIES on the POOR to do the Shit-Work!! When was the last time the CEO of Colgate/Palmolive washed some dishes? And don't worry--that "government regulation" that you speak does NOT GIVE A FUCK about the poor and working class. So sit back, spark your Cuban cigar and be happy. You managed to succeed in the Capitalism Game. But be careful--those economic forces that you pray to are jealous Gods. And when they smite you...you're sure to feel it.
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I'm surrounded by geniuses! omfg
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Reply #27 posted 08/26/03 4:22pm

july

NovaAngel said:

Reply to 'Obesity is now an international problem' http://story.news.yahoo.c...d_fat_dc_1

I've also read an article in Newsweek stating that the Chinese are having problems as well and while other countries have to deal with this problem, America unfortunately still leads the rest with a higher percentage of obesity among it's population. I had no idea it was this much of a problem in other countries. disbelief


Oh no omg fat people... This must be stopped... lol...
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Reply #28 posted 08/26/03 4:23pm

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july said:

NovaAngel said:

Reply to 'Obesity is now an international problem' http://story.news.yahoo.c...d_fat_dc_1

I've also read an article in Newsweek stating that the Chinese are having problems as well and while other countries have to deal with this problem, America unfortunately still leads the rest with a higher percentage of obesity among it's population. I had no idea it was this much of a problem in other countries. disbelief


Oh no omg fat people... This must be stopped... lol...



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Reply #29 posted 08/26/03 4:23pm

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DudeDrops said:

But thanks to Capitalism we have a social system called The Class System. You got Poor, Rich and there is the myth of the Middle Class. That wealth that you speak of would ONLY go to the rich. Why? Because our social structure RELIES on the POOR to do the Shit-Work!! When was the last time the CEO of Colgate/Palmolive washed some dishes? And don't worry--that "government regulation" that you speak does NOT GIVE A FUCK about the poor and working class. So sit back, spark your Cuban cigar and be happy. You managed to succeed in the Capitalism Game. But be careful--those economic forces that you pray to are jealous Gods. And when they smite you...you're sure to feel it.

Somehow you missed the irony in my post. But may i suggest a visit to the P&R forum, where these topics are quite regularly discussed, rather than in the GD forum bcause, well, they kinda tend to stir up shit.
Nevertheless, i kinda feel where you're coming from, but only from a pragmatical approach, not the more 'absolute' approach you seem to have.
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