liberation said:

If you need a pre-nup, she isn't the one.

I believe in marriage whole heartedly.
Now you know why i've never been married.
Marriage is a lifetime commitment, so i'ld better wait
'til i'm 65 before i tie the knot

teller said:

I don't have a prenup, one can never know if she is "the one". Things change...people change.

I feel it's just wise to have some element of protection and CYA.

teller said:

Exactly, cos you are al;ready considering/contemplating break up...bloody hell, you cant put a price on love and happiness..

liberation said:

That is a pussy way out, IMO...

00769BAD said:

Good thinking...

REDFEATHERS said:

Yes I have. Because I think it's unnecessary and pointless.

Marriage is a way of objectifying a commitment. It's puts your promise "out there" as a concrete thing and closes the exits. Granted, you can still divorce, but it's the principle of the thing. You promise to stay in there through thick and thin. And things can get thin sometimes.

teller said:

Marriage is a contrat pretty much for income purposes only.
Married people cheat as much or more than couples dating.
Does it really take a piece of paper to say i am committed to you? All it takes for me is the vows between us and nothing else. If i'm in i'm in(and that is true)

CtheUncanny said:

Agree. But there's something about the ritual that adds meaning...maybe because the whole family is there watching you make the promise, or maybe because I want her to have my last name, a social thing, but still...dunno...but Bella is my woman, so says me and so says Uncle Sam and so says God. No more questions about it. I done put it out there because it can't be any other way. We're married.

I am yours now, and you are mine, and together we'll love through all space and time.

Or if you're into N.E.W.S.: dum de dum dum de de dum dum dum dum de dum thump thump dum de dum...

teller said:

The highlighted parts i agree with. I am for (just not for me) marriage and i wish all couples sincerely committed to make it work the best of luck.



i pronounce thee edit
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CtheUncanny said:

Yeah, I wouldn't have highlighted Uncle Sam's portion either! :LOL:

teller said:

REDFEATHERS said:

i agree 100%...i hate threads because i can't properly express myself. you know, lack of body language and tone of voice and all . i was joking w/that last statement (hence the ). so i'll keep it short and say i believe in marriage (sans pre-nups).

NO,I DON'T. LIVING TOGETHER AND BEING COMMITED TO ONE ANOTHER IS THE SAME THING,WHY RUIN IT WITH LEGAL DOCUMENTS?

Muffy said:

I'm with Cloudbuster.

Decided that's all I feel like saying. After all, what else is there to say in this universe, besides "Cloudbuster is right"?


[This message was edited Sat Aug 23 21:40:43 PDT 2003 by tackam]

I'm not sure if I do, I'm a traditional type of girl so I'd like to say yes, but I have seen it fail to many times to believe fully in it. Let's just say I believe in love in all it's many forms.

Muffy said:

For me,
It's not just 'Legal Documentation' or just the commitment.

The contract to love and cherish from this day forward is about the cerimony of exchanging vows and rings (which are
a symbol of the unbroken circle of love)
The vows are the integral part of whut make marriage a step
further than 'shakin up', even though common law marriages
are no less true. Of course vows put a whole different degree of pressure on those who take them. Kinda like baptism (after which you are to 'know' sin and be responsible for yours)

I believe in it but I dont think it's for me.

Sweeny79 said:

Beautiful answer...I like this.

Byron said:

Thank you

REDFEATHERS said:

I use 2 think what was the point of getting married, butI've changed my mind complete. I use 2 think it was al about legal matters, however, once I've opened myself 2 love, I tried 2 look in2 the situation with deeper understand. The way look at it now is. it's basically a union you make between you and the person you're going 2 spend the rest of life with. Cuz it's like when you where single and datig, y'all live 2 different lives as 2 differet individuals, once you've make that further step in2 holy matrimony it's kind of like 2 seperate souls become as one. One mind, One body, One spirit underneath the higher power of love.
[This message was edited Sat Aug 23 22:47:36 PDT 2003 by DigitalLisa]

REDFEATHERS said:

I feel it's a requirement if U want a family. U can B in love & not have 2 commit 2 marriage. Marriage is NOT as easy 2 get out of, as one would think. It gets complicated. Also, even kids will NOT benefit from parents staying 2gether if there R lots of problems, infact they would B better off with just ONE parent in that situation. A family must B stable 2 provide the ideal environment 4 kids. More people practising birth control would benefit us all in MANY ways...Also, more women are holding down good jobs & do not need a mans support. Companionship, we ALL need, but the issue involving that"paper" is highly controversial, and yes, it tends 2 ruin a relationship IMO. It might B becuz I had a very difficult marriage & know lots of others who did & do, that I now oppose it so adamantly. Statistics say single women & married men are happiest. So true. However, some ppl prosper being married and like it. some stay bcuz they need the money and many other "needy" reasons, but 1/2 of all marriages already end in divorce court. Just think how many more that stay married R there 4 the "wrong reasons" & not happy at all.

SISTER MARY'S "A's" FOR ANY SUCCESSFUL MARRIAGE:


AFFECTION - Tender touching


ATTENTION - Time for one another


ACCEPTANCE - Avoid fault finding


AFFIRMATION - Be supportive and open to new things


APPRECIATION - Say "Thank You"


APPROVAL - See the good in your mate


AWARENESS - Be sensitive


APPEAL - Be attractive to your mate


ADAPTATION - Be flexible and ready to compromise


AFFABLE - Have a sense of humor


ANIMATION - Be positive


ADMONITION - Be monogomous


ADDICTION - Be habit forming for your partner



just thought i would throw that in...

see i think the problem is not marriage itself...its the way we look at it.

first of all...its not being tied down for the rest of you life...its having someone with you and for you ...forever...that is a gift in itself to be charished.
no...i am not married...however...i was once...(kinda ) and i can say that had my husband been a better man...i never would have left him...he gave me no options though...but i do look forward too having a husband someday...and loving him with all i have ...taking care of him...and sharing our love till the day we die...thats what marriage is for...

teller said:

justkelley said:

Kelly I dig that! I have never seen it before!

U already know I don't believe in it ...anymore

Muffy said:

WHY does a leagal document ruin a relationship? What a silly thought! You think a piece of paper destroys love? Is it love you have in the first place...nothing should ruin it, not people, families, money, anything! It is something that should be worked on. I wonder if many people dont marry is cos of this, and it is rather sad really.

summerdawn said: