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PrintableJACKAL said: CtheUncanny said: chemmie said: AnotherLoverToo said: chemmie said: AnotherLoverToo said: chemmie said: I agree with his views on hunting. He was interviewed by O'Reilly once about the Osbornes and trashed it saying "my children would never act like that" and so on. And he is honest.
other than that, i dont bother listening to the guy that much. but this is cool. Sharpton is a waste of sperm and Im glad Noooge called a spade a spade. and what is racist about that? afrohategoo? Sharpton is borderline racist himself so I dont really think relaying a quasi-racist comment like that should be considered full blown racism. but if you feel like throwing out the racism card yet again, then join your buddy Al at the comedy club. "Called a spade a spade"?! Chemmie, you did it again... 
[This message was edited Sat Aug 16 14:18:42 PDT 2003 by AnotherLoverToo] Considering the origin of "Call a Spade a Spade" is anchient greek and using the word "spade" as a racial statement is from about 1920's America... i would say you are wrong. thanks anyway for trying, yet again, to pass some kind of racist card upon me. [This message was edited Sun Aug 17 4:50:06 PDT 2003 by chemmie] Honey-Bunny, what exactly am I "wrong" about when you don't seem to understand what it is I actually said?  The use of "spade" as a derogatory term for black people in America is still around. It's even in many dictionaries--check it out sometime.
I didn't "pass some kind of racist card upon" you--I just pointed out how, once again ("dropped the Cosby Kids off at the pool", I'm-so-great-I-take-little-black-kids-out-to- Olive Garden-to-teach-them-some-manners-but-hell-if-I'd-let-em-in-my-house, etc. etc. ), you opened your clueless mouth and spoke before you gave it much thought.
No offense, Honey-Bunny, don't get your panties in a twist  
i used the entire phrase in its original context. you, and obviously somebody else, are the ones who perceived it to be a racial conotation. [This message was edited Tue Aug 19 4:45:34 PDT 2003 by chemmie] I think because you said it there was only one way they could have taken it What you mean, C? You means dat you don't wish dats chemmie would take me and bof to olive garden so's we can learns how to ac rite and use propa forks? [This message was edited Tue Aug 19 10:11:43 PDT 2003 by JACKAL] LMMFAO!!! chem chem, me is hongre too, can I go? I promise not to call the waiter an ignant buffoon, ask to see the manager, refuse to stfu cause there are spots on my crystal stemware. Promise -- can I go I's sho is hongre. Day got greens and cornbread at da Olive Garden? Who is SweeTea? | |
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They both spout venom from what i can gather.Bollocks to the pair of them.
2003 and seems we're still going over the same old ground.I'm so fucking tired of it. |
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I can't wait until the next generation of people.
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penelopeperriwinkle said: JACKAL said: CtheUncanny said: chemmie said: AnotherLoverToo said: chemmie said: AnotherLoverToo said: chemmie said: I agree with his views on hunting. He was interviewed by O'Reilly once about the Osbornes and trashed it saying "my children would never act like that" and so on. And he is honest.
other than that, i dont bother listening to the guy that much. but this is cool. Sharpton is a waste of sperm and Im glad Noooge called a spade a spade. and what is racist about that? afrohategoo? Sharpton is borderline racist himself so I dont really think relaying a quasi-racist comment like that should be considered full blown racism. but if you feel like throwing out the racism card yet again, then join your buddy Al at the comedy club. "Called a spade a spade"?! Chemmie, you did it again...
[This message was edited Sat Aug 16 14:18:42 PDT 2003 by AnotherLoverToo] Considering the origin of "Call a Spade a Spade" is anchient greek and using the word "spade" as a racial statement is from about 1920's America... i would say you are wrong. thanks anyway for trying, yet again, to pass some kind of racist card upon me. [This message was edited Sun Aug 17 4:50:06 PDT 2003 by chemmie] Honey-Bunny, what exactly am I "wrong" about when you don't seem to understand what it is I actually said? The use of "spade" as a derogatory term for black people in America is still around. It's even in many dictionaries--check it out sometime.
I didn't "pass some kind of racist card upon" you--I just pointed out how, once again ("dropped the Cosby Kids off at the pool", I'm-so-great-I-take-little-black-kids-out-to- Olive Garden-to-teach-them-some-manners-but-hell-if-I'd-let-em-in-my-house, etc. etc. ), you opened your clueless mouth and spoke before you gave it much thought.
No offense, Honey-Bunny, don't get your panties in a twist
i used the entire phrase in its original context. you, and obviously somebody else, are the ones who perceived it to be a racial conotation. [This message was edited Tue Aug 19 4:45:34 PDT 2003 by chemmie] I think because you said it there was only one way they could have taken it What you mean, C? You means dat you don't wish dats chemmie would take me and bof to olive garden so's we can learns how to ac rite and use propa forks? [This message was edited Tue Aug 19 10:11:43 PDT 2003 by JACKAL] LMMFAO!!! chem chem, me is hongre too, can I go? I promise not to call the waiter an ignant buffoon, ask to see the manager, refuse to stfu cause there are spots on my crystal stemware. Promise -- can I go I's sho is hongre. Day got greens and cornbread at da Olive Garden? We is could take de whole fam'ly and have collard greens and corn dumpins at da Olives Garden. And I promise not to call nobody honkey, if they don't call me spade. I know how to ac rite in public. It's a jungle out there. | |
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The collective ignorance of the two of you is amazing. "I'm here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubblegum"
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chemmie said: The collective ignorance of the two of you is amazing. The collective ignorance of this thread is amazing. | |
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chemmie said: The collective ignorance of the two of you is amazing.
I guess dats mean we get no olive garden? It's a jungle out there. | |
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2freaky4church1 said: Al Sharpton is a cracker? Huh.
nope. crackers. | |
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chemmie said: AnotherLoverToo said: chemmie said: I agree with his views on hunting. He was interviewed by O'Reilly once about the Osbornes and trashed it saying "my children would never act like that" and so on. And he is honest.
other than that, i dont bother listening to the guy that much. but this is cool. Sharpton is a waste of sperm and Im glad Noooge called a spade a spade. and what is racist about that? afrohategoo? Sharpton is borderline racist himself so I dont really think relaying a quasi-racist comment like that should be considered full blown racism. but if you feel like throwing out the racism card yet again, then join your buddy Al at the comedy club. "Called a spade a spade"?! Chemmie, you did it again...
[This message was edited Sat Aug 16 14:18:42 PDT 2003 by AnotherLoverToo] Considering the origin of "Call a Spade a Spade" is anchient greek and using the word "spade" as a racial statement is from about 1920's America... i would say you are wrong. thanks anyway for trying, yet again, to pass some kind of racist card upon me. [This message was edited Sun Aug 17 4:50:06 PDT 2003 by chemmie] don't try that, you know what you meant by that phrase ....
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NikkiVail said: chemmie said: AnotherLoverToo said: chemmie said: I agree with his views on hunting. He was interviewed by O'Reilly once about the Osbornes and trashed it saying "my children would never act like that" and so on. And he is honest.
other than that, i dont bother listening to the guy that much. but this is cool. Sharpton is a waste of sperm and Im glad Noooge called a spade a spade. and what is racist about that? afrohategoo? Sharpton is borderline racist himself so I dont really think relaying a quasi-racist comment like that should be considered full blown racism. but if you feel like throwing out the racism card yet again, then join your buddy Al at the comedy club. "Called a spade a spade"?! Chemmie, you did it again...
[This message was edited Sat Aug 16 14:18:42 PDT 2003 by AnotherLoverToo] Considering the origin of "Call a Spade a Spade" is anchient greek and using the word "spade" as a racial statement is from about 1920's America... i would say you are wrong. thanks anyway for trying, yet again, to pass some kind of racist card upon me. [This message was edited Sun Aug 17 4:50:06 PDT 2003 by chemmie] don't try that, you know what you meant by that phrase yes, he does. in fact, he just explained it. obviously you don't know what he meant by the phrase, because you keep harping on it in your confused state of mind. | |
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AaronSuperior said: NikkiVail said: chemmie said: AnotherLoverToo said: chemmie said: I agree with his views on hunting. He was interviewed by O'Reilly once about the Osbornes and trashed it saying "my children would never act like that" and so on. And he is honest.
other than that, i dont bother listening to the guy that much. but this is cool. Sharpton is a waste of sperm and Im glad Noooge called a spade a spade. and what is racist about that? afrohategoo? Sharpton is borderline racist himself so I dont really think relaying a quasi-racist comment like that should be considered full blown racism. but if you feel like throwing out the racism card yet again, then join your buddy Al at the comedy club. "Called a spade a spade"?! Chemmie, you did it again...
[This message was edited Sat Aug 16 14:18:42 PDT 2003 by AnotherLoverToo] Considering the origin of "Call a Spade a Spade" is anchient greek and using the word "spade" as a racial statement is from about 1920's America... i would say you are wrong. thanks anyway for trying, yet again, to pass some kind of racist card upon me. [This message was edited Sun Aug 17 4:50:06 PDT 2003 by chemmie] don't try that, you know what you meant by that phrase yes, he does. in fact, he just explained it. obviously you don't know what he meant by the phrase, because you keep harping on it in your confused state of mind. In the U.S and in this day and age if you polled one hundred people about the spade statement i would figure 98% would say it is a racist statement( you and chemmie would think otherwise). If you look at the other statements this person has made is makes for an even stronger case it was racist. Quit playing the games saying that isn't what i meant when you know what the price was when you said it. Aaron i'm dissappointed in you. I thought better of you. Chemmie past quotes(teaching black kids to eat and the cosby kids) tend to lean toward a side that more like archie bunker. I GOT YA, I GOT YA, I GOT YA PUNKASS! REPEAT | |
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AaronSuperior said: yes, he does. in fact, he just explained it. obviously you don't know what he meant by the phrase, because you keep harping on it in your confused state of mind.
"because you keep harping on it in your confused state of mind"... Aaron, just wanted to make sure you know that I made 2 comments on this thread, and the post you're referring to was made by NikkiVail (and it was only her first, to the best of my knowledge). | |
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CtheUncanny said: . Aaron i'm dissappointed in you. I thought better of you.
I'm not here to live down to your expectations of me. [This message was edited Sun Aug 24 20:52:57 PDT 2003 by AaronSuperior] | |
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AnotherLoverToo said: AaronSuperior said: yes, he does. in fact, he just explained it. obviously you don't know what he meant by the phrase, because you keep harping on it in your confused state of mind.
"because you keep harping on it in your confused state of mind"... Aaron, just wanted to make sure you know that I made 2 comments on this thread, and the post you're referring to was made by NikkiVail (and it was only her first, to the best of my knowledge). quite frankly, i didn't read any of it except for NikkiVail's post, and within it chemmie accurately described whered the saying came from. what's to argue about... | |
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AaronSuperior said: CtheUncanny said: . Aaron i'm dissappointed in you. I thought better of you.
I'm not here to live down to your expectations of me. [This message was edited Sun Aug 24 20:52:57 PDT 2003 by AaronSuperior] Then maybe you can try to live up to some. I GOT YA, I GOT YA, I GOT YA PUNKASS! REPEAT | |
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Alrite, Let's just call a Fag a Fag.
Al Sharpton is to Ted Nugent whut Petrol is to Fire. Oh... don't mind the fag thing. i was refering to cigarettes  I AM King BAD a.k.a. BAD,
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CtheUncanny said: AaronSuperior said: CtheUncanny said: . Aaron i'm dissappointed in you. I thought better of you.
I'm not here to live down to your expectations of me. [This message was edited Sun Aug 24 20:52:57 PDT 2003 by AaronSuperior] Then maybe you can try to live up to some. I live up to my own, not down to yours. | |
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AaronSuperior said: CtheUncanny said: AaronSuperior said: CtheUncanny said: . Aaron i'm dissappointed in you. I thought better of you.
I'm not here to live down to your expectations of me. [This message was edited Sun Aug 24 20:52:57 PDT 2003 by AaronSuperior] Then maybe you can try to live up to some. I live up to my own, not down to yours. It went this far and all becuase you avoided the original reply about chemmie. My vision of you wasn't that low at first but now you probably can't live down to the image i have of you now. You back up that racist statement and run off into this just to have an argument. Quit being a little bitch and man-up to some shit for a change. I GOT YA, I GOT YA, I GOT YA PUNKASS! REPEAT | |
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Is this good enough for you?
CALL A SPADE A SPADE – “To be straightforward and call things by their right names, to avoid euphemisms or beating around the bush. The words are from the garden, not from the game of poker. So old is this expression that it wasn’t original with Plutarch, who used it back in the first century when writing about Philip of Macedon, Alexander the Great’s father. The saying has been credited to the Greek comic poet Menander, who described the life of ancient Athens so faithfully that he inspired a critic to exclaim, ‘Menander and Life, which of you imitated the other?’ If this is so, to ‘call a spade a spade'’ could have been quoting a much older Greek proverb. The expression was introduced into English by Protestant reformer John Knox, who translated it from the Latin of Erasmus as: ‘I have learned to call wickedness by its own terms: A fig, a fig, and a spade a spade.’ Erasmus had taken the phrase from Lucian, a Greek writer of the second century and translated it as ‘to call a fig a fig and a boat a boat,’ which is possible because the Greek words for boat and garden spade were very similar.” “Encyclopedia of Word and Phrase Origins” by Robert Hendrickson (Facts on File, New York, 1997).
also... Call a spade a spade, instead of calling as spade a shovel. A spade is a digging instrument that was (And still is!) confused with a shovel. I believe what I call (and everybody else calls) a shovel is really a spade. The shovel is the flat bladed instrument meant for picking up (a coal shovel)dirt, and the shovel is meant for breaking up ground.
The only way this statement can come off as racist is if it is taken completely out of context. It is no different than using the word "niggardly" to describe someone who is cheap. Because of your own hypersensitivity, you are overlooking the actual meaning of the word or phrase and focusing on something you deem offensive. Meanwhile you are throwing the racist card at the same time without any merit. Do you also know that the word "Spade" has several meanings? 1. . An implement for digging or cutting the ground, consisting usually of an oblong and nearly rectangular blade of iron, with a handle like that of a shovel. 2. A cutting instrument used in flensing a whale. 3. the forked end of a connecting rod in which a pin is held at both ends 4. A hart or stag three years old. 5. a playing card in the major suit of spades or as a verb: 6.To dig with a spade; to pare off the sward of, as land, with a spade. BAD Said: Alrite, Let's just call a Fag a Fag.
Al Sharpton is to Ted Nugent whut Petrol is to Fire. Oh... don't mind the fag thing. i was refering to cigarettes The only problem with that argument is that the origination of the phrase was "spade", not "fag". And the phrase was popularized before any racial connotation was given to the word "spade". "I'm here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubblegum"
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see...this kind of stuff makes me want too 
and then... 
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CtheUncanny said: In the U.S and in this day and age if you polled one hundred people about the spade statement i would figure
98% would say it is a racist statement( you and chemmie would think otherwise).. additionally... If you polled one hundred people about the word spade, I would figure that 98% would say that they didn't even know that it was a racist slur, because it hasn't been used by anyone but Archie Bunker for about 30 years. | |
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justkelley said: see...this kind of stuff makes me want too
and then...
till i die... I hear ya girl, some speak it well and some dont know when to keep their mouths shut. | |
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justkelley said: see...this kind of stuff makes me want too
and then...
till i die... pretty much, yea. Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton | |
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righteous1 said: Can anyone see the countries first permed up president
I can! and wearing some fly gators too.
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chemmie said: Is this good enough for you?
CALL A SPADE A SPADE – “To be straightforward and call things by their right names, to avoid euphemisms or beating around the bush. The words are from the garden, not from the game of poker. So old is this expression that it wasn’t original with Plutarch, who used it back in the first century when writing about Philip of Macedon, Alexander the Great’s father. The saying has been credited to the Greek comic poet Menander, who described the life of ancient Athens so faithfully that he inspired a critic to exclaim, ‘Menander and Life, which of you imitated the other?’ If this is so, to ‘call a spade a spade'’ could have been quoting a much older Greek proverb. The expression was introduced into English by Protestant reformer John Knox, who translated it from the Latin of Erasmus as: ‘I have learned to call wickedness by its own terms: A fig, a fig, and a spade a spade.’ Erasmus had taken the phrase from Lucian, a Greek writer of the second century and translated it as ‘to call a fig a fig and a boat a boat,’ which is possible because the Greek words for boat and garden spade were very similar.” “Encyclopedia of Word and Phrase Origins” by Robert Hendrickson (Facts on File, New York, 1997).
also... Call a spade a spade, instead of calling as spade a shovel. A spade is a digging instrument that was (And still is!) confused with a shovel. I believe what I call (and everybody else calls) a shovel is really a spade. The shovel is the flat bladed instrument meant for picking up (a coal shovel)dirt, and the shovel is meant for breaking up ground.
The only way this statement can come off as racist is if it is taken completely out of context. It is no different than using the word "niggardly" to describe someone who is cheap. Because of your own hypersensitivity, you are overlooking the actual meaning of the word or phrase and focusing on something you deem offensive. Meanwhile you are throwing the racist card at the same time without any merit. Do you also know that the word "Spade" has several meanings? 1. . An implement for digging or cutting the ground, consisting usually of an oblong and nearly rectangular blade of iron, with a handle like that of a shovel. 2. A cutting instrument used in flensing a whale. 3. the forked end of a connecting rod in which a pin is held at both ends 4. A hart or stag three years old. 5. a playing card in the major suit of spades or as a verb: 6.To dig with a spade; to pare off the sward of, as land, with a spade. BAD Said: Alrite, Let's just call a Fag a Fag.
Al Sharpton is to Ted Nugent whut Petrol is to Fire. Oh... don't mind the fag thing. i was refering to cigarettes The only problem with that argument is that the origination of the phrase was "spade", not "fag". And the phrase was popularized before any racial connotation was given to the word "spade". why would i care... a fag is a fag. So let's call a spade a spade. You chem chem protesth too much. you (at least twice now) have dropped the ball by sayin shit that is directly linked to racial difference (bigotry) and each time you try to shmoove it over by tryin to state all the reasons that it should mean nothing to blacks because the history of it can be linked to inocent shit. GET REAL Bro. You're a tanted lil white boy that has been taught tha a nigger is only a nigger when he leaves the room. Of course by bein home on your pc you tend to forget that we're in the room all the time. If you were truely chagrined about it you would lose the "but it wasn't my intent" plea and step to the plate, kinda so a Public Servise Announcement to the rest of the 'closet bigots' on the site and admit that y'all got a long way to go. Oh and that you'll senceirly (whutever) take part in rectifying the sittiation. But like i told ice, you gonna stay true to form cause you in too deep. And the amount of respect you get from this day forward is un direct proportion to the shit you put out there. As for all the rest of your group, and all the other groups. Remember, When i had something to say about homosexuals you mothafuckas labled me a "gay bashin homophobic" and i said FUCK YOU. i think y'all need to rethink whut you do speak up for, I ACT BETTER THAN I THINK, and like others i'm a bit tired of this shit where you don't believe that we (BLACKS)have this issue on our plate more than we have meals at our tables. and each one of you have issues that you need to look into, because you will need our suport. LIFE IS GOOD!!!  needed an edit edit[This message was edited Mon Aug 25 14:08:49 PDT 2003 by 00769BAD] I AM King BAD a.k.a. BAD,
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sinisterpentatonic said: righteous1 said: Can anyone see the countries first permed up president
I can! and wearing some fly gators too.
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00769BAD said: chemmie said: Is this good enough for you?
CALL A SPADE A SPADE – “To be straightforward and call things by their right names, to avoid euphemisms or beating around the bush. The words are from the garden, not from the game of poker. So old is this expression that it wasn’t original with Plutarch, who used it back in the first century when writing about Philip of Macedon, Alexander the Great’s father. The saying has been credited to the Greek comic poet Menander, who described the life of ancient Athens so faithfully that he inspired a critic to exclaim, ‘Menander and Life, which of you imitated the other?’ If this is so, to ‘call a spade a spade'’ could have been quoting a much older Greek proverb. The expression was introduced into English by Protestant reformer John Knox, who translated it from the Latin of Erasmus as: ‘I have learned to call wickedness by its own terms: A fig, a fig, and a spade a spade.’ Erasmus had taken the phrase from Lucian, a Greek writer of the second century and translated it as ‘to call a fig a fig and a boat a boat,’ which is possible because the Greek words for boat and garden spade were very similar.” “Encyclopedia of Word and Phrase Origins” by Robert Hendrickson (Facts on File, New York, 1997).
also... Call a spade a spade, instead of calling as spade a shovel. A spade is a digging instrument that was (And still is!) confused with a shovel. I believe what I call (and everybody else calls) a shovel is really a spade. The shovel is the flat bladed instrument meant for picking up (a coal shovel)dirt, and the shovel is meant for breaking up ground.
The only way this statement can come off as racist is if it is taken completely out of context. It is no different than using the word "niggardly" to describe someone who is cheap. Because of your own hypersensitivity, you are overlooking the actual meaning of the word or phrase and focusing on something you deem offensive. Meanwhile you are throwing the racist card at the same time without any merit. Do you also know that the word "Spade" has several meanings? 1. . An implement for digging or cutting the ground, consisting usually of an oblong and nearly rectangular blade of iron, with a handle like that of a shovel. 2. A cutting instrument used in flensing a whale. 3. the forked end of a connecting rod in which a pin is held at both ends 4. A hart or stag three years old. 5. a playing card in the major suit of spades or as a verb: 6.To dig with a spade; to pare off the sward of, as land, with a spade. BAD Said: Alrite, Let's just call a Fag a Fag.
Al Sharpton is to Ted Nugent whut Petrol is to Fire. Oh... don't mind the fag thing. i was refering to cigarettes The only problem with that argument is that the origination of the phrase was "spade", not "fag". And the phrase was popularized before any racial connotation was given to the word "spade". why would i care... a fag is a fag. So let's call a spade a spade. You chem chem protesth too much. you (at least twice now) have dropped the ball by sayin shit that is directly linked to racial difference (bigotry) and each time you try to shmoove it over by tryin to state all the reasons that it should mean nothing to blacks because the history of it can be linked to inocent shit. GET REAL Bro. You're a tanted lil white boy that has been taught tha a nigger is only a nigger when he leaves the room. Of course by bein home on your pc you tend to forget that we're in the room all the time. If you were truely chagrined about it you would lose the "but it wasn't my intent" plea and step to the plate, kinda so a Public Servise Announcement to the rest of the 'closet bigots' on the site and admit that y'all got a long way to go. Oh and that you'll senceirly (whutever) take part in rectifying the sittiation. But like i told ice, you gonna stay true to form cause you in too deep. And the amount of respect you get from this day forward is un direct proportion to the shit you put out there. As for all the rest of your group, and all the other groups. Remember, When i had something to say about homosexuals you mothafuckas labled me a "gay bashin homophobic" and i said FUCK YOU. i think y'all need to rethink whut you do speak up for, I ACT BETTER THAN I THINK, and like others i'm a bit tired of this shit where you don't believe that we (BLACKS)have this issue on our plate more than we have meals at our tables. and each one of you have issues that you need to look into, because you will need our suport. LIFE IS GOOD!!! needed an edit edit
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