Hope you're feeling better Ice!!

IceNine said:

Fucking hell Ice... that's awful. Hope you bounce back to health quickly...

CAMILLE4U said:

Thanks... it is horrible. I am in absolute hell again today. Were it not for the Lortab, I would be dying again.

Do not, I repeat, do not get kidney stones... EVER.

endorphin74 said:

You have heard right... I would never have believed how bad it could hurt. I feel for anyone out there who has or has had these little stones of sheer torture.

Thanks for the hug as well.

lovemachine said:

Goddamn, I am glad that they opted to do the CAT scan on me... the last thing I need is unnecessary surgery. :O

Your friend was in hell twice over that whole deal.

Armageddicon said:

This must have been stunning.

Chico319 said:

Thank you very much. I am really not feeling very great, but the Lortab has dulled the pain a bit... I only hope that this shit passes quickly.

ian said:

Thanks, man... I fucking hope so too. I have to see another doctor tomorrow to see about breaking the damned thing up to get it out of there. Hopefully he can get it done without "the claw."

Jeez Ice, I am sorry to hear this.I hope before long you are back to planting your greenery and riding your bike all over the states again. Good luck with everything.

TwIsTeDmInD said:

Thank you... I really do wish that I was outside torturing myself in the incredible heat.

I am not even joking when I say that this hurts worse than being kicked in the nuts.

Here is the first clue:

People who have had snipped often describe the pain as "the worst pain I've ever had."

Clue 2: Profuse sweating

Clue 3: Nausea and vomiting

Clue 4: Sudden, constant pain.

Clue 5:

You may need to be admitted to the hospital for treatment of your LABOR if:

Dehydration is present, especially if you have severe diarrhea or vomiting.

You have severe pain that cannot be controlled with oral pain medication.


CHILD BIRTH




CLUE 1... described as the worst pain i ever had by many women

CLUE 2...Profuse sweating if labor progresses too quickly COLD SWEATS AND NAUSEA AND VOMITING ARE ALSO COMMON WITH QUICK DELIVERIES.



CLUE 3... Sudden and often consistent pain


CLUE 5... Pain management cannot be sought orally



CONGRATULATIONS...!!! YOU HAVE JUST EXPERIENCED THE MIRACLE OF CHILD BIRTH..!!!

DORA said:

Actually, from talking to the doctors last night, I have come to the conclusion that kidney stones hurt worse than child birth. Strange, but true...

:ROLL:



PLEASE...





one who has never given birth to a child

DORA said:

Two doctors, one of whom was female and had a kid, told me that the pain of kidney stones was reported to be much worse than child birth by women who have had kidney stones. The female doctor was giving her own report, as well as talking about reports from other women who told her that their kidney stones hurt far worse than having a baby.

IceNine said:

oh yeah?? Well you try pushing something the size of a watermelon through something the size of a lemon!!! That shit kills!!! Well...so I've heard!!

they were just trying to make you feel better

I hate to have to do this, Dora... but you will obviously never understand without elucidation... This is from the Duke University Medical Center:

Urinary Tract Stones

Introduction

Kidney stones can be one of the most painful disorders experienced by men and women. In fact, some women have stated that kidney stones are more painful than childbirth.

Symptoms of Kidney Stones

Kidney stones may cause all or only a few of the following symptoms:

Excruciating pain-typically in the back, side, lower abdomen or groin

Blood in the urine

A burning sensation during urination

Difficulty urinating

Frequent urination

Fever or chills

Nausea or vomiting

Loss of appetite


http://surgery.mc.duke.ed...tones.html

irresistibleb1tch said:

Right!

This sucks... I don't want to experience anything like this again.

IceNine said:

pardon the ignorant question, but is there anything you can do to prevent kidney stones? i've always just figured that some people are more prone to getting them than others. luckily, i've never had to deal with them... knock on wood!

irresistibleb1tch said:

p.s. i know how to prevent labor - have done so successfully since i was 16...

how annoying... i'm answering my own questions now (sign of a dire need for a 12-step org program!) but here is what i found on Dr. Weil's website:

Today's Question
I have a recurring problem with kidney stones. Can you tell me how to prevent them as well as what to do when you pass one?

-- Robbie

Today's Answer
(Published 11/12/2001)
Up to 10 percent of Americans may develop kidney stones in their lifetime, and 80 percent will suffer a recurrence later in life. Most of these stones are lumps of crystallized calcium usually bound to oxalates or phosphates naturally found in food and in the body. Kidney stones come in all sizes. Some are mere specks, some are as big as golf balls. Small stones may pass out of the body unnoticed, but larger ones can cause excruciating pain that usually begins as an ache in the back and side, and becomes more intense and severe as the stone tries to squeeze through the narrow ureter, the duct linking the kidney to the bladder. When you pass a stone, you should try to catch it by urinating into a mesh strainer. Both prevention and treatment strategies may hinge on your doctor’s analysis of the stone’s contents.

Since you've had a recurring problem with kidney stones, you may be genetically predisposed to them. In addition to this risk, men are four times more likely to develop stones than women. You're also at a higher risk if you're sedentary, eat a lot of animal fat and protein, and don't drink enough water. These risk factors offer clues to what you can do to prevent stones in the future. First, drink lots of water—at least eight 8-ounce glasses of water at evenly spaced intervals throughout the day—to dilute your urine to help prevent formation of the crystals that stick together to form stones. Be sure to drink more liquids in hot weather since your body will be losing fluid through perspiration. The easiest way to determine if you're drinking enough fluids is to check the color of your urine — it should be clear or pale yellow (unless you have taken a B-complex vitamin in the past few hours, which will give your urine a temporary bright-yellow color). Drinking lots of water and other fluids also helps guard against urinary tract infections, which are associated with a type of kidney stone that develops among women.

If you eat a lot of meat and other forms of protein, reduce your protein intake Diets high in animal protein may increase the risk of forming stones by causing more calcium to be pulled out of bones. As a result, more calcium eventually winds up in the urine, where it may trigger the formation of kidney stones. To prevent forming calcium oxalate stones, limit your intake of such oxalate-rich foods as spinach, wheat bran, strawberries, chocolate, tea, beets, and nuts.

Even though kidney stones typically are composed of calcium, avoiding calcium-rich foods won't help. In fact, results of a study published in the Annals of Internal Medicine in 1997 showed that women who ate the most calcium-rich dairy products had a lower than normal risk of kidney stones. On the other hand, the study showed that taking calcium supplements appears to raise the risk among women slightly, and these results probably would hold true for men, too.

On the plus side, if you're a beer drinker, a study in Finland published in 1999 showed that drinking moderate amounts of beer may help prevent kidney stones. The explanation given was that the hops in beer may contain chemicals that interfere with stone formation.

Dr. Andrew Weil

IceNine said:

MILLIONS OF WOMEN
WHAT WERE WE THINKING...!!!

childbirth and 9 months of pregnancy
Excruciating pain-typically in the back, side, lower abdomen or groin

Blood in the urine

A burning sensation during urination

Difficulty urinating

Frequent urination

Fever or chills

Nausea or vomiting

Loss of appetite


all you described last for 9 months for many women


yea it hurt... get over it

irresistibleb1tch said:

Not being a man helps, as men have kidney stones approximately 4 times as often as women.

IceNine said:

Fuck that!!! We got a bum deal...I demand to speak to the man in charge!!!

IceNine said:

Are you sure that nobody put roots on you?

Chico319 said:

men have ZERO pain tolerance

DORA said:

Not true!!