I dont even have a REP here...everybody 's me
btw:RAZZ...No one could EVER say anything about ya that would change my mind
Im all razzled out...

SteadyMobbin said:

Why is IceNine not stating his case - innocent or guilty? IF he was stupid in the past by creating this FivePercenter a/c, he should be learning his lesson now. For anyone stating 'who cares?', there's a LONG list of people who do. It's as simple as that, and many have stopped posting on this site because of the apparent double standard in moderating behaviour.

The point is that these instances should not be tolerated, however, it is time to move on. Now, where's Icenine? Either he decides to develop a backbone, or Ben should take action.

How well spoken that was Anji,
i remember in the past how quick he was to deny such things as being obsurd. i also so remember him puting it out that he only had certain aliases and points of view, but then i have many times had to ask him several times to reconcider some point of view or another and he would always state his case. BUT THAT WAS THEN, THIS IS NOW!!!
After the "JOY IN REPITITION" you tend to get the moves down. REALLY GOOD BOXERS STICK AND MOVE AND GOT REALLY GOOD KNOCK OUT POWER. but after a loss, i guess it's only reasonable that they get back in the gym and come up with a new stratagy. The boxer, the trainer, and the promoter

SteadyMobbin said:

actually, all those posts you cite, portray him/her as a black person baiting whites. so what's your point?

Presence said:

more importantly, why would anyone out such a lovable character as POOK anyway?

and for that matter, SteadyMobbin still hasn't revealed who he is, despite trying to out whoever FivePercenter was.

AaronSuperior said:

Why not? And furthermore, can someone please explain to me what exactly is so loveable about someone who discusses politics and religion in retardonics.

AaronSuperior said:

I myself don't care who you are as an alter-ego. When you start race baiting and trying to start trouble you need to come to the front and say who you are. Or the moderators can tell the org who the troll is causing all the trouble.

cocoquik said:

This is so so true, i do remember that there was no prollum in sayin CHEECH is BAD and BAD = CHEECH, so why won't a mod call out the scum for being who they are???

CHEECHWIZARD said:
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I is Da Great And Powerful CHEECH WIZARD.

I is always been know to speaks a lil bit differents from
uddah folks, but as i is been goin through da threads i is
seein dat i ain't da only one wit da speach inpediment, but i is da only one dat get talked about, likes you don't unnastand... O DA PAIN!!!
My views however have allways been consistant with my
behavior, and i is always been well connected as i is always
put my loyalties in my sig.

Cheech = BAD
Don't get all shocked and bent outta shape about it, it's a fact of life.
Those who don't like BAD, don't like CHEECH, cause our views are the same.

But whut of those whom are hiding behind alter-egos to say hurtful shit??? SMILING IN YOUR FACE.
You say you don't care, cause you don't know and IGNORANCE IS BLISS.
REALLY, YOU NEED TO KNOW
WE NEED TO KNOW!!!
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I wonder how many different ways this can be said and still misunderstood? We sometimes make allegiances for whutever reason only to find out we have made a shitty choice. Those
are the people that have streghnth in their convictions.
Then too there are those who don't want to look the fool
and therefore try to brush aside the not so obvious because
it basicaly didn't make them bleed yet. If there's a picture of a fire on your moniter it won't burn to tuch it
so it must not be real. The picture of the fire is no less real, it is a fire.
I'm not pointing to a particular person, because to do so would result in me getting deactivated or some happy ole shit,
So do forgive my being a bit cryptic in my maner of writing.

The moral of all this is to watch the back you pat as well as the one pattin your back, in other names they are quite cappable of talking shit in your face, and denying it was even them.
THIS IS THE LEGACY OF PERCENTAGES

KALI my child will wreak havoc on all you love at my command... i am KING BAD!!!


POLITICLY SPEAKIN edit
[This message was edited Fri Jul 11 19:41:03 PDT 2003 by CHEECHWIZARD]

AaronSuperior said:

Didn't someone out POOK before AnotherLover?

And she DID have the courtesy to edit her post, by the way...

Wow. If what I have read so far on this site is true, there are some really shady people here... breaking into accounts, racebaiting, I mean it's like WHOA!

AaronSuperior said:

So what if the person who made those posts were white? What would you think of that person?

Natsume said:

I don't think he's referring to me, Natsume, I think he's talking about JACKAL outing POOK on this thread. Aaron and I cleared things up, we're cool, but thanks for lookin' out for me, sweetie!

AnotherLoverToo said:

This is why I hate replies upon replies upon replies with zillions of quoted messages! It gets so confusing.

Sorry, Aaron!

Natsume said:

I swear, my name gets pulled into just about everything these days! No worries, girly-girl!

JACKAL said:

POOK does not discuss such things. POOK is a character created here to lighten the mood, to have a good time with. whatever the owner of the name does under other handles, why would you want to fuck up a lovable, light-hearted character like POOK?

cocoquik said:

quite frankly, i don't think of that person at all, good or bad, no matter what their color. get a life...

cocoquik said:

why? why is it any of your business who that person is? why is it the moderator's business to tell everyone else who that person is? that is along the lines of violating the privacy policy, i would think. that information only accessible to the moderators, concerning the private information of individual orgers would be shared with everyone?


oh, and by the way, is it just coincidence... that you've taken over the argument on this point with me, for SteadyMobbin'.. and that your accounts were created on exactly the same day?

Natsume said:

Some people???


We all know, Natsume is the devil!!!

Natsume said:

want to have one, puny human?

AaronSuperior said:

He doesn't? Perhaps you should get out more. His posts are all over the politics and religion forum. And would you like to take a guess at what he is discussing? If you get the answer right, I'll give you a cookie.

Threads like this truly baffle me. How are orgers' lives so void of stimulation and meaning beyond this site that they could muster the motivation, the energy, the time, the emotional stake in mere letters on a computer screen to steal accounts, create multiple shady alter-egos, bait meaningless arguments and/or care so much about which orgers do that they can follow threads months -- sometimes years -- into the past? Don't you people have careers? Families? Hobbies?

I come here for light-hearted banter and, on occasion, to chime in on certain important topics, but never has a central drama in my life been: "WHO IS ORGER X?!?!" or "I WONDER WHAT FANS OR ENEMIES I'VE MADE AFTER THAT P&R FORUM DEBATE?!?!" I ask y'all truly out of curiosity, not rhetorical value: Why should I give a crap who's playing childish games here? How does that negatively impact my leisure time here, which is sporadic at best?

Are some of you too invested in the site, or am I just a negligent orger?
[This message was edited Fri Jul 11 22:26:11 PDT 2003 by Lammastide]

JACKAL said:

POOK? the monkey? the character? the one that uses sentence structure like this:

POOK WANT COOKIE

POOK WANT JESUS COOKIE

POOK WANT JESUS COOKIE AND WINE TO WASH DOWN

is actually discussing such issues in the P&R forum? if the above type of exchange is what passes for discussion with you, then you're wound up a little too tight.

but you're right, i don't go over there anymore. i already left my mark there, and left. take my advice, it really isn't worth it to get bogged down over there. and besides, without soulpower to punch around, what's the point?

Aaron, for argument's sake, let's assume this FivePercenter character and his/her racist agenda was not the issue of the day. Instead, let's imagine that there is a character named BattyBoy, an account purely set up to bait gay people within this community. Let's assume this character was instrumental in causing you, and others, to be banned from the org.

Let's also assume that this BattyBoy character actually existed as a popular orger (who apparently was not homophobic). Perhaps, you thought the two of you were good friends. Can you imagine having any issues with your friend when you realised that he/she was actually posting as this BattyBoy character? Do you think any other people would have issues with this person and their dual personality?

Lammastide said:

it's ALL a bunch of bullshit, if you ask me. the "drama", the discussions of the "drama", the comings of alter-egos and the goings of org mainstays as a result of the "drama"... yes, some people are too invested.

i've engaged in my share of flamewars over the years, here, but none of it has emotionally affected me in any way whatsoever. but we all make the org a sort of microcosm to reflect our real lives. some people are drama queens in real life, and are bigger drama queens here. some people are waify hippies in real life, and are bigger hippies here. some are race-baiting trolls in real life, and are bigger race-baiting trolls in real life. as for myself, i'm a flame-thrower/fanner in real life, and i'm moreso here. but just as in real life, i shrug off such brief, inflammatory conflicts as a thrill, entertainment, grist for the mill that is time-wasting and emotion-cheweing, and little more than a way to blow off steam.

Anji said:

Anji, you know I love you, but even if I found out an orger I "liked" were doing that, he/she exists as nothing more than letters on a screen. How could I be devastated?

Also, no one here, no matter how angry they make you, can get you banned here. Only ill conduct can -- and that'd be totally one's own fault. Right?
[This message was edited Fri Jul 11 22:37:35 PDT 2003 by Lammastide]

Anji said:

just the same. i rarely, if even (and even more rarely for more than 5 minutes) give the gay-baiters any serious time. there are plenty of them here. a wisecrack on my part is generally all they're going to get out of me, and if it's something more, i can tell you with all honesty, that what they say does not affect me, does not actually get me riled up, and i don't give it a second thought once i read it and skip it. there have been plenty of these people you describe over the years, and even now, and you don't find me embroiled in any serious flame-war or even discussion with them. it's irrelevant and it's a waste of time to invest yourself emotionally in what amounts to screaming at the top of your lungs at a computer screen in hopes that you'll beat some sense into the head of some other person looking at a computer screen. it's only bait if you reach for it.


as for having issues with that person, no, it would not come to that. the people i befriend here in any real way are people that i have met and hung out with, know intimately, or have sussed out as the right kind of person for me to be friends with. but i guess i've always just been that sort of person that was intuitive about character and intent, and i've always been able to see through most of the disguises people have used on the org, since its inception many many years ago. it doesn't shake me, it doesn't ruffle me. people create alternate accounts for various reasons. if someone wants to create one to be a race-baiter, or a gay-baiter or whatever, i really couldn't care less. i've done such things (not with the issue of race or gays, but for the purposes of flaming), so i really don't take someone's "trouble-maker" identity seriously at all. you really need to not take this site and the people that you don't know and trust so seriously.
[This message was edited Fri Jul 11 22:39:37 PDT 2003 by AaronSuperior]

Lammastide said:

Right you are, Lammastide, but then again, I'm not the one who's been hurt here. Emotions play a part too, I guess. Oh well, I hope everyone can move on but I do agree with those who have suggested that for the air to clear, there needs to be visible accountability.

AaronSuperior said:

It doesn't matter how incoherently the posts are being made, if he is making comments on politics or religion that are actually on-topic, then he is discussing.

The following comes from http://www.prince.org/msg...&tid=52680 . Yes, POOK is responding to IceNine's allegations that the Bible is contradictory. He is discussing religion.

POOK said:

I'm FivePercenter.

JACKAL said:

you are ridiculous, jackal