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Thread started 05/30/03 8:26am

paisleypark4

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racist car commercial in Mpls (2 me. i think it is)

It begins with a black man rapping in a car, talking about how his car keeps breaking trying 2 go 2 th 'da kluuub', then shows him drivin in this new car with 2 white girls & a black girl in cowboy hats.

Then all of a sudden this white guy in a cowboy hat sitting backwards on a horse on a farm talking about how 2 buy used cars and to buy from his shop.

This is very racil I think, and it is the 3rd of its kind (same dealer) to commercialize to black peoiple. And it didnt help having ghetto girls dancing and stuff in the backgrond. All it did was help racial peoples' views about the black community.


If u live in Minneapolis, tell me if u seen it
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Reply #1 posted 05/30/03 8:33am

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paisleypark4 said:

It begins with a black man rapping in a car, talking about how his car keeps breaking trying 2 go 2 th 'da kluuub', then shows him drivin in this new car with 2 white girls & a black girl in cowboy hats.

Then all of a sudden this white guy in a cowboy hat sitting backwards on a horse on a farm talking about how 2 buy used cars and to buy from his shop.

This is very racil I think, and it is the 3rd of its kind (same dealer) to commercialize to black peoiple. And it didnt help having ghetto girls dancing and stuff in the backgrond. All it did was help racial peoples' views about the black community.


If u live in Minneapolis, tell me if u seen it


With the greatest respect how the fuck is that racist black and white people get in cars together all the tiime. People sit on horses all the time. People of black and white origin wear cowboy hats all the time. Perhaps you are being a little overly sensitive
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Reply #2 posted 05/30/03 8:35am

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So? switch on MTV and you see bootybouncing all day long.

Who's to blame? who's to judge? shrug
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Reply #3 posted 05/30/03 8:37am

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Unfortunately, I've seen MUCH worse on BET.
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Reply #4 posted 05/30/03 8:45am

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i haven't seen it. then again i hardly watch television anymore...
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Reply #5 posted 05/30/03 8:50am

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sum ho-diddly guy with cowboy clothes on a horse promoting black people to buy his cars. It seems racial 2 me, if not that, exploitive.
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Reply #6 posted 05/30/03 9:02am

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paisleypark4 said:

sum ho-diddly guy with cowboy clothes on a horse promoting black people to buy his cars. It seems racial 2 me, if not that, exploitive.


Would it be exploitive if it was a white guy selling to white people or a black guy selling to white people.
I think not.
Anyway if all that you are thinking about is "what colour the seller is or what colour the buyer is" then you yourself are a being racist. When you look at a person see a person not a colour.
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Reply #7 posted 05/30/03 9:12am

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Amen, diver! Your two posts were right on target. smile
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Reply #8 posted 05/30/03 9:24am

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Amen, diver! Your two posts were right on target. smile



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Reply #9 posted 05/30/03 9:25am

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You're welcome. hug
RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you.
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Reply #10 posted 05/30/03 11:32am

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paisleypark4 said:

sum ho-diddly guy with cowboy clothes on a horse promoting black people to buy his cars. It seems racial 2 me, if not that, exploitive.


THAT A GOOD POINT

HE SHOULD USE ACTORS WITH NO COLOR AT ALL

TO BE FAIR

YOU KNOW LIKE INVISIBLE PEOPLE

OR MAYBE YOU ONLY WANT HIM TO USE WHITE ACTOR

THAT WAY YOU NOT BE OFFENDED

P o o |/,
P o o |\
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Reply #11 posted 05/30/03 11:45am

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It sounds racist to me, what dealer? tell me so I can boycott the motherfuckers!

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Reply #12 posted 05/30/03 11:46am

NovaAngel

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mdiver said:

paisleypark4 said:

sum ho-diddly guy with cowboy clothes on a horse promoting black people to buy his cars. It seems racial 2 me, if not that, exploitive.


Would it be exploitive if it was a white guy selling to white people or a black guy selling to white people.
I think not.
Anyway if all that you are thinking about is "what colour the seller is or what colour the buyer is" then you yourself are a being racist. When you look at a person see a person not a colour.


I don't necessarily think that PP4 can be accused of being racist simply because of his views. After all, there is a precedent in this country of past economic exploitation of people of color.

I do agree with your statement that people should see a person instead of color. But in can be argued that for people of color in America, that statement is oftentimes a luxury that can't be afforded. The problem is that whenever people of color in America, try to "look past color", we often run the risk of forgetting our culture as well.

While some may appplaud this as a step in the right direction, more often than not it seems that we are rudley reminded that we are in fact "minorities" in America.
I think that instead of looking past a person's color so to speak, we should try to acknowledge it and more importantly respect it.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with acknowledging differences. The problem arises from our reactions to those differences. Of course people could be a little less sensitive when talking about said differences.
[This message was edited Fri May 30 12:13:57 PDT 2003 by NovaAngel]
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Reply #13 posted 05/30/03 11:50am

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NovaAngel said:

mdiver said:

paisleypark4 said:

sum ho-diddly guy with cowboy clothes on a horse promoting black people to buy his cars. It seems racial 2 me, if not that, exploitive.


Would it be exploitive if it was a white guy selling to white people or a black guy selling to white people.
I think not.
Anyway if all that you are thinking about is "what colour the seller is or what colour the buyer is" then you yourself are a being racist. When you look at a person see a person not a colour.


I don't necessarily think that PP4 can be accused of being racist simply because of his views. After all, there is a precedent in this country of past economic exploitation of people of color.

I do agree with your statement that people should see a person instead of color. But in can be argued that for people of color in America, that statement is oftentimes a luxury that can't be afforded. The problem is that whenever people of color in America, try to "look past color", we often run the risk of forgetting our culture as well.

While some may appplaud this as a step in the right direction, more often than not it seems that we are rudley reminded that we are in fact "minorities" in America.
I think that instead of looking past a person's color so to speak, we should try to acknowledge it and more importantly respect it.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with acknowledging differences. The problem arises from our reactions to those differences.
[This message was edited Fri May 30 11:47:06 PDT 2003 by NovaAngel]



ugh, that is tooo much on a friday afternoon-someone wake me up-i'm sooo sleepy
[This message was edited Fri May 30 11:51:18 PDT 2003 by gabeez]
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Reply #14 posted 05/30/03 11:54am

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paisleypark4 said:

It begins with a black man rapping in a car, talking about how his car keeps breaking trying 2 go 2 th 'da kluuub', then shows him drivin in this new car with 2 white girls & a black girl in cowboy hats.

Then all of a sudden this white guy in a cowboy hat sitting backwards on a horse on a farm talking about how 2 buy used cars and to buy from his shop.

This is very racil I think, and it is the 3rd of its kind (same dealer) to commercialize to black peoiple. And it didnt help having ghetto girls dancing and stuff in the backgrond. All it did was help racial peoples' views about the black community.


If u live in Minneapolis, tell me if u seen it


I'm sorry to hear this. I live in the UK so I havn't seen it but it seen sterotypical. It's such a shame that TV can allow people to judge colures in the same way.
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Reply #15 posted 05/30/03 11:57am

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gabeez said:

NovaAngel said:

mdiver said:

paisleypark4 said:

sum ho-diddly guy with cowboy clothes on a horse promoting black people to buy his cars. It seems racial 2 me, if not that, exploitive.


Would it be exploitive if it was a white guy selling to white people or a black guy selling to white people.
I think not.
Anyway if all that you are thinking about is "what colour the seller is or what colour the buyer is" then you yourself are a being racist. When you look at a person see a person not a colour.


I don't necessarily think that PP4 can be accused of being racist simply because of his views. After all, there is a precedent in this country of past economic exploitation of people of color.

I do agree with your statement that people should see a person instead of color. But in can be argued that for people of color in America, that statement is oftentimes a luxury that can't be afforded. The problem is that whenever people of color in America, try to "look past color", we often run the risk of forgetting our culture as well.

While some may appplaud this as a step in the right direction, more often than not it seems that we are rudley reminded that we are in fact "minorities" in America.
I think that instead of looking past a person's color so to speak, we should try to acknowledge it and more importantly respect it.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with acknowledging differences. The problem arises from our reactions to those differences.
[This message was edited Fri May 30 11:47:06 PDT 2003 by NovaAngel]



ugh, that is tooo much on a friday afternoon-someone wake me up-i'm sooo sleepy
[This message was edited Fri May 30 11:51:18 PDT 2003 by gabeez]


lol OK. Colour good. People bad.
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Reply #16 posted 05/30/03 7:52pm

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NovaAngel said:

mdiver said:

paisleypark4 said:

sum ho-diddly guy with cowboy clothes on a horse promoting black people to buy his cars. It seems racial 2 me, if not that, exploitive.


Would it be exploitive if it was a white guy selling to white people or a black guy selling to white people.
I think not.
Anyway if all that you are thinking about is "what colour the seller is or what colour the buyer is" then you yourself are a being racist. When you look at a person see a person not a colour.


I don't necessarily think that PP4 can be accused of being racist simply because of his views. After all, there is a precedent in this country of past economic exploitation of people of color.

I do agree with your statement that people should see a person instead of color. But in can be argued that for people of color in America, that statement is oftentimes a luxury that can't be afforded. The problem is that whenever people of color in America, try to "look past color", we often run the risk of forgetting our culture as well.

While some may appplaud this as a step in the right direction, more often than not it seems that we are rudley reminded that we are in fact "minorities" in America.
I think that instead of looking past a person's color so to speak, we should try to acknowledge it and more importantly respect it.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with acknowledging differences. The problem arises from our reactions to those differences. Of course people could be a little less sensitive when talking about said differences.
[This message was edited Fri May 30 12:13:57 PDT 2003 by NovaAngel]



thanx I agree that there is 2 much people trying 2 hard 2 b politically correct, trying not 2 say the wrong things, but...u cannot 4get the past and just 4get about where the black struggle began. As long as there are still KKK, rap music, racism, it still xsists...sad 2 c that it had 2 happen in my own home on TV also.
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Reply #17 posted 05/30/03 8:28pm

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When i see commercials like this i ask myself who made that black guy do this commercial? Wasn't he wise enough to see he was being exploited? or was he just interested in making a buck? freedom gave us a choice to make our own decisions, true it maybe marketed to a black demographic but that's what marketing is all about finding the demographic that your product appeals to. Fuck him and the brother that did the commercial as long as we have our people willing to accept roles and do things that portray us in a negative light our struggle to change this countries perspective of our community will always be difficult, but just remember the revolution starts with you and as long as you're enlighten we're one step closer to revealing the truth and eliminating this psycological disease many of our race are afflicted with which is inferiority peace
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Reply #18 posted 05/30/03 8:36pm

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hmmm, i'll have to watch for this commercial, I haven't seen it yet...
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Reply #19 posted 05/30/03 8:37pm

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paisleypark4 said:

sum ho-diddly guy with cowboy clothes on a horse promoting black people to buy his cars. It seems racial 2 me, if not that, exploitive.


Promoting black people? did he really say that he is specializing in seeling cars to black people?
Or it was just a guy in the car, and the guy was black.
If the guy in the car was white, would you then complain that he is selling cars to white people?

I didn't read anything in you description of the commercial that color was mentioned by any of the people who were in it. YOU were the only one mentioning color.
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Reply #20 posted 06/02/03 8:06am

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sinisterpentatonic said:

When i see commercials like this i ask myself who made that black guy do this commercial? Wasn't he wise enough to see he was being exploited? or was he just interested in making a buck? freedom gave us a choice to make our own decisions, true it maybe marketed to a black demographic but that's what marketing is all about finding the demographic that your product appeals to. Fuck him and the brother that brother tht did the commercial as long as we have our people willing to accept roles and do things that portray us in a negative light our struggle to change this countries perspective of our community will always be difficult, but just remember the revolution starts with you and as long as you're enlighten we're one step closer to revealing the truth and eliminating this psycological disease many of our race are afflicted with which is inferiority peace



thanks 4 ur enlightenment. Keep teachin da word!smile
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Reply #21 posted 06/02/03 8:07am

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MissCute said:

paisleypark4 said:

sum ho-diddly guy with cowboy clothes on a horse promoting black people to buy his cars. It seems racial 2 me, if not that, exploitive.


Promoting black people? did he really say that he is specializing in seeling cars to black people?
Or it was just a guy in the car, and the guy was black.
If the guy in the car was white, would you then complain that he is selling cars to white people?

I didn't read anything in you description of the commercial that color was mentioned by any of the people who were in it. YOU were the only one mentioning color.


No, the guy in it was black, the surroundings were black, the music was black..then all of a sudden after the rappin & ghetto girls & stuff..this white guy in a cowboy hat on a farm talks about u buying his used cars.
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Reply #22 posted 06/28/03 3:36am

mdiver

paisleypark4 said:

MissCute said:

paisleypark4 said:

sum ho-diddly guy with cowboy clothes on a horse promoting black people to buy his cars. It seems racial 2 me, if not that, exploitive.


Promoting black people? did he really say that he is specializing in seeling cars to black people?
Or it was just a guy in the car, and the guy was black.
If the guy in the car was white, would you then complain that he is selling cars to white people?

I didn't read anything in you description of the commercial that color was mentioned by any of the people who were in it. YOU were the only one mentioning color.


No, the guy in it was black, the surroundings were black, the music was black..then all of a sudden after the rappin & ghetto girls & stuff..this white guy in a cowboy hat on a farm talks about u buying his used cars.


so what for crying out loud see people not colour
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Reply #23 posted 06/28/03 5:36am

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everything can seem racist if you sit there and nitpick at it long enough...

how about turning off the tv and picking up some history books... whites aren't the only racists on this planet.
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Reply #24 posted 06/28/03 4:03pm

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Reply #25 posted 06/28/03 4:10pm

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suomynona said:

everything can seem racist if you sit there and nitpick at it long enough...

how about turning off the tv and picking up some history books... whites aren't the only racists on this planet.



I haven't been a racist since high school track and field.. biggrin
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Reply #26 posted 06/28/03 4:17pm

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pejman said:

suomynona said:

everything can seem racist if you sit there and nitpick at it long enough...

how about turning off the tv and picking up some history books... whites aren't the only racists on this planet.



I haven't been a racist since high school track and field.. biggrin


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