POOK said:

Pook, I fucking LOVE you.



Thank you. And by strange coincidence, I'm on a Nirvana trip right now. That's syncronicity. $600??? There you go.


[This message was edited Thu Jun 26 9:58:52 PDT 2003 by VinaBlue]

Laws should be based on how the majority of people want the country/world to be, and the majority of people don't think it's wrong to fuck over the music industry (setting aside the probability that filesharing helps the music industry).

As/if it becomes unprofitable to make just a few artists big stars by selling their cds to everybody, the focus will move to live, local music, and to a variety of interesting artists. Big record labels will die. And nobody will mourn. Better for artists, better for consumers.

Services like the Apple Music Store will allow people to buy high-quality recordings if they like. . .they'll pay for the convenience. Filesharing will be viewed like radio (which is also fucked): free promotion. But free promotion for an artist and their body of work, more than for any individual song or album.

I may have the details wrong, but I think the change is unstoppable. Yeay!

tackam said:

POOK said:

Right-o, "Bleach" was made for $600 and paid for by their would-be guitarist who didn't even play on the album.

File Sharing will never, EVER, be stopped. We outnumber them.

Tom said:

True, if U own a computer you just make the problem biger for them. That's all it takes.

IceNine said:

On point, If I was an artist, I would not want people to "steal" my product. I have burned CD's before, frankly, the qaulity sucks. This try before you buy idea is just a cop out for stealing someone's work. Give me a 'real' CD any day.

Marrk said:

That's it. Call the Law!

slm4m said:

Mp3s are low quality copies, that's why the quality sucks, it's only about 10% of the digital information. I am an artist, and when my cd is finished, I want people to buy my music. It probably wont be on Kazaa because I'm not that well-known, if it is, oh well. You can't sue everybody. I don't download, but I do copy from friends, or trade. Hey, I'm broke!

The music industry may be "loosing money" becasue of file sharing, but the artists have been "loosing money" because of the music industry for a long time. Yeah, I know everything costs money, studio time, music videos, promotion, marketing. Once an artist has developed a fan base, they can go independent and make just as much money selling their product like a small business. Just a thought.

I'm kinda on the fence about it all, because I am a consumer, but I also have music I would like to make a living off of someday. I have a theory that most people who download music wouldn't buy it anyway. If I was rich, I would buy everything I wanted. I love music so much, and I want to see the artwork and liner notes as well.

IceNine said:

I can't even fathom the thought, but I do understand what you mean.

Teller said

VinaSlue said

I agree ~ no matter what the music industry does, the consumers will "out create' them. They should come up with reasonable, affordable and simple ways of satisfying those of us buying AND downloading.

I also buy the CD's to support the artist ~ my small way to show appreciation and to encourage their artistic endeavor. It is also an education to look at the cover art and read liner notes ~ how many times have you been surprised by the collaborations and contributions that are obscured in the tiny print.

IceNine ~ how would the industry track those who download? If downloaded files were on the hard drive but not shared would they still be considered stolen property and can these be tracked? What if you had purchased the original CD and had copied it onto your computer ~ would these be prohibited also since you had paid for it? And ~ when people buy "used" cds for a reduced price at a retail record shop does the artist receive a royalty on the second sale? Just some things I have wondered about and you seem pretty knowledgeable in this area. Thanks!

who gives a fuck...in a few yrs file sharing/cd burning will be normal like dubbing to a cassette tape/vhs/etccc...

Considering the words I found to have some merit here... I went to Tower records to purchase a single song I wanted. They asked $6.99 for the ONE song. $15.99 for the album.

AND THE RECORD INDUSTRY HAS THE NERVE TO WONDER WHY IT IS AN ISSUE?

Muse2noPharaoh said:

So did you get that Spice Girls single?

althom said:

Tell me they don't still have a recording contract!

Muse2noPharaoh said:

The answer: NEW FUNK ORDER

www.jasondodson.tk

Read the press release about the NFO on the website above.

Check my posts. I created a freedom of music project in rebuttal to these companies and artists who are nothing but greedy. The goal is to bring artists to share some of their songs for free downloads (not the whole CD) and still sell the CD's, concerts, and merchandise separately, and eliminate corporate and government regulation as much as possible by having all artists agree to share the music freely. Good for artists because it gives them the power, not the companies, and good for the people because it lets people still get free music. If all artists participated, music could truly be free.

And, all we would really need the government for is copyrights and publishing.


Peace,
JD

CAMILLE4U said:

If they keep throwing worthless threats around.. more ppl will completely stop buying music all together.

Those wrecka stows looking mighty empty !