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AzureStar

Lizzie Borden Took An Axe, Gave her Mother 40 Whacks, When She'd Seen What She Had Done, She Gave Her Father 41.

Lizzie Borden. I remember, when I was little, being so intrigued by Lizzie Borden and what happened, I even submitted a school report about it... so, I thought I would create a thread about it. smile



Anyway... I was just reading a bit about the house and things just now, and I read that the house is now a Bed and Breakfast... in which they serve the same thing the Borden's ate for breakfast on the morning of the killings. What do you think about this? One, would you stay there? And, two... what do you think about the people turning the home into a Bed and Breakfast and using the murders for profit?


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[This message was edited Sun May 25 8:51:02 PDT 2003 by AzureStar]
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Reply #1 posted 05/25/03 8:49am

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Kinda ghoulish.
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Reply #2 posted 05/25/03 8:54am

AzureStar


Photo of the crime scene after her father's murder...



Photo of the room, how it is now, at the Bed and Breakfast.






Crime scene photo of Abby Borden



How the room looks today, at the Bed and Breakfast... and you can sleep there.


I don't like it.
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Reply #3 posted 05/25/03 8:57am

Cloudbuster

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AzureStar said:

I don't like it.



Me neither.
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Reply #4 posted 05/25/03 8:58am

Cloudbuster

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What were the motives for the murders.
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Reply #5 posted 05/25/03 10:16am

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I don't know about the movie for the murders,
but Jane Crawford (I think) played in "StraightJacket"
which was a movie about axe murders.
Heads rolled througout the movie and an eerie music score played.
And the lyrics for Lizzie Borden were played all through the movie.
That was my last phychic movie. I have still not recovered.
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So...how's everybody doing? smile
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Reply #6 posted 05/25/03 10:20am

AzureStar

Cloudbuster said:

What were the motives for the murders.


Supposedly that Lizzie did not like her step-mother and thought that her father was going to re-write his will... thus, taking Lizzie out of it.
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Reply #7 posted 05/25/03 10:27am

TongueBox

EEEWWW! That hotel is in bad taste. Why anyone would want to stay there is beyond me. Sincerely CREEPY!
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Reply #8 posted 05/25/03 10:29am

AzureStar

TongueBox said:

EEEWWW! That hotel is in bad taste. Why anyone would want to stay there is beyond me. Sincerely CREEPY!


I agree... I wonder how much they charge...
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Reply #9 posted 05/25/03 10:35am

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I once read this novel about the whole Lizzie Borden thing where the author combined known facts with the author's own research, and then fictionalized/enhanced the story by making Lizzie's motive for murder that she was a lesbian and her parents caught her with her lover and were going to expose and humiliate her. In the story, her father sexually abused her and her mother was cold, distant.

It was a pretty good book, actually!
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Reply #10 posted 05/25/03 10:35am

AzureStar

I called just now... the rooms range from $150-$200 a night, double occupancy.

She is sending me a brochure.

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Reply #11 posted 05/25/03 10:36am

AzureStar

AnotherLoverToo said:

I once read this novel about the whole Lizzie Borden thing where the author combined known facts with the author's own research, and then fictionalized/enhanced the story by making Lizzie's motive for murder that she was a lesbian and her parents caught her with her lover and were going to expose and humiliate her. In the story, her father sexually abused her and her mother was cold, distant.

It was a pretty good book, actually!


The movie that I had watched on this did the same thing... the whole lesbian thing and also put the twist that someone molested Lizzie.
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Reply #12 posted 05/25/03 10:38am

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AzureStar said:

I called just now... the rooms range from $150-$200 a night, double occupancy.

She is sending me a brochure.

big grin


Where is it located?
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Reply #13 posted 05/25/03 10:38am

AzureStar

AnotherLoverToo said:

AzureStar said:

I called just now... the rooms range from $150-$200 a night, double occupancy.

She is sending me a brochure.

big grin


Where is it located?


Fall River, Massachusetts... thinking of taking a trip? wink
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Reply #14 posted 05/25/03 10:42am

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AzureStar said:

AnotherLoverToo said:

AzureStar said:

I called just now... the rooms range from $150-$200 a night, double occupancy.

She is sending me a brochure.

big grin


Where is it located?


Fall River, Massachusetts... thinking of taking a trip? wink


NO, doofus-girl! stfu
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Reply #15 posted 05/25/03 10:44am

AzureStar

AnotherLoverToo said:

AzureStar said:

AnotherLoverToo said:

AzureStar said:

I called just now... the rooms range from $150-$200 a night, double occupancy.

She is sending me a brochure.

big grin


Where is it located?


Fall River, Massachusetts... thinking of taking a trip? wink


NO, doofus-girl! stfu


You could stay in Abby's room... lol... there is NO way I would do that. I might be able to take a walk around in there... but, I wouldn't be able to sleep there... no way.

And, personally, I think Lizzie did it. Even though she wasn't convicted... I think she did it.
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Reply #16 posted 05/25/03 10:48am

TongueBox

I can see it now; Azure takes along her digital camera and takes photos in black & white(of course)portraying an reenactment of the original photos and posts them at the org. lol

I suggest not bringing an axe with you Azure, Lizzie's ghost may be in the room and pick it up when your sleeping. tease
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Reply #17 posted 05/25/03 10:49am

Ozzy

AzureStar said:





I think I've fucking met her.
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Reply #18 posted 05/25/03 10:49am

AzureStar

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I can see it now; Azure takes along her digital camera and takes photos in black & white(of course)portraying an reenactment of the original photos and posts them at the org. lol

I suggest not bringing an axe with you Azure, Lizzie's ghost may be in the room and pick it up when your sleeping. tease


OOoooh... I could do that!

They do say the place is haunted... maybe Lizzie could do me in! smile
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Reply #19 posted 05/25/03 11:02am

TongueBox

AzureStar said:

TongueBox said:

I can see it now; Azure takes along her digital camera and takes photos in black & white(of course)portraying an reenactment of the original photos and posts them at the org. lol

I suggest not bringing an axe with you Azure, Lizzie's ghost may be in the room and pick it up when your sleeping. tease


OOoooh... I could do that!

They do say the place is haunted... maybe Lizzie could do me in! smile



Ur sooo silly. big grin shhh Don't let Lizzie hear you, I think I have channeled her ghost to this thread. stab headlp


I know it's not an axe but a knife will have to do. lol
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Reply #20 posted 05/25/03 11:03am

AzureStar

TongueBox said:

AzureStar said:

TongueBox said:

I can see it now; Azure takes along her digital camera and takes photos in black & white(of course)portraying an reenactment of the original photos and posts them at the org. lol

I suggest not bringing an axe with you Azure, Lizzie's ghost may be in the room and pick it up when your sleeping. tease


OOoooh... I could do that!

They do say the place is haunted... maybe Lizzie could do me in! smile



Ur sooo silly. big grin shhh Don't let Lizzie hear you, I think I have channeled her ghost to this thread. stab headlp


I know it's not an axe but a knife will have to do. lol
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Reply #21 posted 05/25/03 12:40pm

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AzureStar said:

Lizzie Borden. I remember, when I was little, being so intrigued by Lizzie Borden and what happened, I even submitted a school report about it... so, I thought I would create a thread about it. smile



Anyway... I was just reading a bit about the house and things just now, and I read that the house is now a Bed and Breakfast... in which they serve the same thing the Borden's ate for breakfast on the morning of the killings. What do you think about this? One, would you stay there? And, two... what do you think about the people turning the home into a Bed and Breakfast and using the murders for profit?


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[This message was edited Sun May 25 8:51:02 PDT 2003 by AzureStar]

I saw a show on the Discovery Channel about this. The Bed and Breakfast I mean. I was always fascinated with this story when I was younger also.

I don't know what I think about turning a murder scene into a profitable business though. They have done it as well with the Jack the Ripper cases in London.

I would probably stay there though if I got the chance.
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Reply #22 posted 05/26/03 10:17am

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minneapolisgenius said:[quote]

AzureStar said:

Lizzie Borden. I remember, when I was little, being so intrigued by Lizzie Borden and what happened, I even submitted a school report about it... so, I thought I would create a thread about it. smile



Anyway... I was just reading a bit about the house and things just now, and I read that the house is now a Bed and Breakfast... in which they serve the same thing the Borden's ate for breakfast on the morning of the killings. What do you think about this? One, would you stay there? And, two... what do you think about the people turning the home into a Bed and Breakfast and using the murders for profit?


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[This message was edited Sun May 25 8:51:02 PDT 2003 by AzureStar]

I saw a show on the Discovery Channel about this. The Bed and Breakfast I mean. I was always fascinated with this story when I was younger also.

I don't know what I think about turning a murder scene into a profitable business though.
They have done it as well with the Jack the Ripper cases in London.

I would probably stay there though if I got the chance.


I work in a museum and we have a painting by the artist Walter Sickert. He was among those suspected to be Jack the Ripper. I don't know of any specific evidence off hand but if he is really Jack the Ripper it's pretty creepy to know that the museum has one of his paintings.
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Reply #23 posted 05/26/03 11:10am

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NovaAngel said:[quote]

minneapolisgenius said:

AzureStar said:

Lizzie Borden. I remember, when I was little, being so intrigued by Lizzie Borden and what happened, I even submitted a school report about it... so, I thought I would create a thread about it. smile



Anyway... I was just reading a bit about the house and things just now, and I read that the house is now a Bed and Breakfast... in which they serve the same thing the Borden's ate for breakfast on the morning of the killings. What do you think about this? One, would you stay there? And, two... what do you think about the people turning the home into a Bed and Breakfast and using the murders for profit?


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[This message was edited Sun May 25 8:51:02 PDT 2003 by AzureStar]

I saw a show on the Discovery Channel about this. The Bed and Breakfast I mean. I was always fascinated with this story when I was younger also.

I don't know what I think about turning a murder scene into a profitable business though.
They have done it as well with the Jack the Ripper cases in London.

I would probably stay there though if I got the chance.


I work in a museum and we have a painting by the artist Walter Sickert. He was among those suspected to be Jack the Ripper. I don't know of any specific evidence off hand but if he is really Jack the Ripper it's pretty creepy to know that the museum has one of his paintings.


Yes! I've done a little research on the Jack the Ripper case and have heard of the Sickert connection. The case against him actually seems pretty strong.

Some of his paintings actually have references to Ripper occurences and I think one is even called "View From the Ripper's Window" or something to that effect, and it's a painting of a man staring out of a window with his back to the viewer. Really creepy.
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Reply #24 posted 05/26/03 11:10am

kisscamille

Didn't they serve some kind of stale old mutton that had seen better days? I love this movie with Elizabeth Montgomery. I still get the chills when I watch the movie now.
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Reply #25 posted 05/26/03 11:20am

REDFEATHERS

It wouldn't bother me, I would stay there! nod But they gotta lower the hotel charges!
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Reply #26 posted 05/26/03 11:38am

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minneapolisgenius said:[quote]

NovaAngel said:

minneapolisgenius said:

AzureStar said:

Lizzie Borden. I remember, when I was little, being so intrigued by Lizzie Borden and what happened, I even submitted a school report about it... so, I thought I would create a thread about it. smile



Anyway... I was just reading a bit about the house and things just now, and I read that the house is now a Bed and Breakfast... in which they serve the same thing the Borden's ate for breakfast on the morning of the killings. What do you think about this? One, would you stay there? And, two... what do you think about the people turning the home into a Bed and Breakfast and using the murders for profit?


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[This message was edited Sun May 25 8:51:02 PDT 2003 by AzureStar]

I saw a show on the Discovery Channel about this. The Bed and Breakfast I mean. I was always fascinated with this story when I was younger also.

I don't know what I think about turning a murder scene into a profitable business though.
They have done it as well with the Jack the Ripper cases in London.

I would probably stay there though if I got the chance.


I work in a museum and we have a painting by the artist Walter Sickert. He was among those suspected to be Jack the Ripper. I don't know of any specific evidence off hand but if he is really Jack the Ripper it's pretty creepy to know that the museum has one of his paintings.


Yes! I've done a little research on the Jack the Ripper case and have heard of the Sickert connection. The case against him actually seems pretty strong.

Some of his paintings actually have references to Ripper occurences and I think one is even called "View From the Ripper's Window" or something to that effect, and it's a painting of a man staring out of a window with his back to the viewer. Really creepy.


I forget what the title of the painting that the museum has but it's a city scene. What's some of the evidence against Sickert?
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Reply #27 posted 05/26/03 11:46am

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NovaAngel said:[quote]

minneapolisgenius said:

NovaAngel said:

minneapolisgenius said:

AzureStar said:

Lizzie Borden. I remember, when I was little, being so intrigued by Lizzie Borden and what happened, I even submitted a school report about it... so, I thought I would create a thread about it. smile



Anyway... I was just reading a bit about the house and things just now, and I read that the house is now a Bed and Breakfast... in which they serve the same thing the Borden's ate for breakfast on the morning of the killings. What do you think about this? One, would you stay there? And, two... what do you think about the people turning the home into a Bed and Breakfast and using the murders for profit?


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[This message was edited Sun May 25 8:51:02 PDT 2003 by AzureStar]

I saw a show on the Discovery Channel about this. The Bed and Breakfast I mean. I was always fascinated with this story when I was younger also.

I don't know what I think about turning a murder scene into a profitable business though.
They have done it as well with the Jack the Ripper cases in London.

I would probably stay there though if I got the chance.


I work in a museum and we have a painting by the artist Walter Sickert. He was among those suspected to be Jack the Ripper. I don't know of any specific evidence off hand but if he is really Jack the Ripper it's pretty creepy to know that the museum has one of his paintings.


Yes! I've done a little research on the Jack the Ripper case and have heard of the Sickert connection. The case against him actually seems pretty strong.

Some of his paintings actually have references to Ripper occurences and I think one is even called "View From the Ripper's Window" or something to that effect, and it's a painting of a man staring out of a window with his back to the viewer. Really creepy.


I forget what the title of the painting that the museum has but it's a city scene. What's some of the evidence against Sickert?


Sorry because I hate it when people post links because they are too lazy to report things themselves, but here's a link I Googled up about his connection to the crimes. It would take me forever to go into all the details about the evidence against him, so I found this link that pretty much sums it up in a short article.

http://abcnews.go.com/sec...11206.html

Pretty creepy. He also used to sign the guest book at a bed and breakfast he frequented as "Jack the Ripper" and add little cartoons that were drawn in his signature style. Basically, begging to be caught.
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Reply #28 posted 05/26/03 11:54am

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minneapolisgenius said:[quote]

NovaAngel said:

minneapolisgenius said:

NovaAngel said:

minneapolisgenius said:

AzureStar said:

Lizzie Borden. I remember, when I was little, being so intrigued by Lizzie Borden and what happened, I even submitted a school report about it... so, I thought I would create a thread about it. smile



Anyway... I was just reading a bit about the house and things just now, and I read that the house is now a Bed and Breakfast... in which they serve the same thing the Borden's ate for breakfast on the morning of the killings. What do you think about this? One, would you stay there? And, two... what do you think about the people turning the home into a Bed and Breakfast and using the murders for profit?


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[This message was edited Sun May 25 8:51:02 PDT 2003 by AzureStar]

I saw a show on the Discovery Channel about this. The Bed and Breakfast I mean. I was always fascinated with this story when I was younger also.

I don't know what I think about turning a murder scene into a profitable business though.
They have done it as well with the Jack the Ripper cases in London.

I would probably stay there though if I got the chance.


I work in a museum and we have a painting by the artist Walter Sickert. He was among those suspected to be Jack the Ripper. I don't know of any specific evidence off hand but if he is really Jack the Ripper it's pretty creepy to know that the museum has one of his paintings.


Yes! I've done a little research on the Jack the Ripper case and have heard of the Sickert connection. The case against him actually seems pretty strong.

Some of his paintings actually have references to Ripper occurences and I think one is even called "View From the Ripper's Window" or something to that effect, and it's a painting of a man staring out of a window with his back to the viewer. Really creepy.


I forget what the title of the painting that the museum has but it's a city scene. What's some of the evidence against Sickert?


Sorry because I hate it when people post links because they are too lazy to report things themselves, but here's a link I Googled up about his connection to the crimes. It would take me forever to go into all the details about the evidence against him, so I found this link that pretty much sums it up in a short article.

http://abcnews.go.com/sec...11206.html

Pretty creepy. He also used to sign the guest book at a bed and breakfast he frequented as "Jack the Ripper" and add little cartoons that were drawn in his signature style. Basically, begging to be caught.


Good article. Thanks smile
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NovaAngel said:


Good article. Thanks smile


No problem.

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