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Anji

Why would you want to have children?

I understand why many people have children, and what makes them feel that their lot are an invaluable source of happiness, but what happens if you're already happy? Why would you want to have children then? Aren't they just an incredible drain? Don't get me wrong; I like cute, fat, sumo-wrestler style babies, but that's not the point.

eek
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Reply #1 posted 05/20/03 1:22pm

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I have no kids yet, but the main reason I probably will have them later is because I would feel lonely in later life without them. I have such a good relationship with my parents, and I will always be there for them. So, I don't want get really old and have no one, no family of my own to visit me and care for me. I would just end up taking a bunch of meds and ending it all if I end up alone and old.
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Reply #2 posted 05/20/03 1:26pm

Rhondab

it does take energy but I love being a mom. My daughter is a blessing. It's also a different dynamic with me being a single mom of an only child. My focus is only on her and we have a special bond which would change a little bit if I had another child.

Kids are great!!!
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Reply #3 posted 05/20/03 1:32pm

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Some people just really adore children. And no matter if you are happy or not children can bring you happiness you never even knew you could have. I thank god for my children every day. Their smiles can warm my heart on the worst of days. I have wanted children since I can remember and now that I have em I would never want it any other way!
He calls me "Holi" cuz he says everyday w/ me is like a Holiday...
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Reply #4 posted 05/20/03 1:32pm

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Kids are cool.

You can make them wash the dishes, go to the garage to buy you ciggies, hoover the carpet, fix you drinks and prepare your dinner.

And if you're Pete Townsend you can make them suck your cock. nod barf
Some people are like Slinkies...

They're good for nothing but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs.
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Reply #5 posted 05/20/03 1:33pm

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Anji said:

I understand why many people have children, and what makes them feel that their lot are an invaluable source of happiness, but what happens if you're already happy? Why would you want to have children then? Aren't they just an incredible drain? Don't get me wrong; I like cute, fat, sumo-wrestler style babies, but that's not the point.

eek

There's nothing wrong with not being ready,
willing and/or able to start a family. If that
time comes at all, it's different for different
people. Even if you're the same age that your
peers are and some of them have children, it
doesn't mean that you should have them too.
Ideally it's about where you are at a certain
stage in your life, and whether or not you're ready
for that responsibility.

I'm just glad I'm not a kid growing up with the current
generation of kids. There's a lot going on in this era
that I'm glad I didn't have to deal with when I was
younger. And on the other side of the coin, I don't wish
I was still a kid in the '70s and '80s either.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #6 posted 05/20/03 1:33pm

Anji

minneapolisgenius said:

I have no kids yet, but the main reason I probably will have them later is because I would feel lonely in later life without them. I have such a good relationship with my parents, and I will always be there for them. So, I don't want get really old and have no one, no family of my own to visit me and care for me. I would just end up taking a bunch of meds and ending it all if I end up alone and old.
Cool, I get on with my parents really well too, and have always been loved to bits by them. I used to think along the same lines as you, I probably still do. So, what makes people think you'll end up alone and old if you don't have kids? And why does alone and old necessarily mean unhappy? I know that in my community, everyone without kids is looked down upon (in a 'feel sorry for them' kinda way).

sad

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Reply #7 posted 05/20/03 1:35pm

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Anji said:

I understand why many people have children, and what makes them feel that their lot are an invaluable source of happiness, but what happens if you're already happy? Why would you want to have children then? Aren't they just an incredible drain? Don't get me wrong; I like cute, fat, sumo-wrestler style babies, but that's not the point.

eek
If you are already happy and you see your happiness being dependent upon not having the physical, emotional, financial and other responsibilities that parenting brings with it, then becoming a parent is not a good idea - not least for the child's sake.
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Reply #8 posted 05/20/03 1:36pm

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Anji said:

but what happens if you're already happy?


If your happy then that's cool. There is no reason for a particular individual to have them. It won't make a major diference to the good of the world.

But some people don't feel satisfied unless they have. Also I think that having children is a way of preserving yourself. After your gone your still having an effect of the world because your responsible for some of the lovers and lusters inside it.

Personally, I just love holding them.
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Reply #9 posted 05/20/03 1:37pm

Anji

luv4thepurple1 said:

Some people just really adore children. And no matter if you are happy or not children can bring you happiness you never even knew you could have. I thank god for my children every day. Their smiles can warm my heart on the worst of days. I have wanted children since I can remember and now that I have em I would never want it any other way!
I think about this perspective too. The idea that they'll potentially be a new, different kind of happiness I'm not really aware of yet.

woot!
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Reply #10 posted 05/20/03 1:38pm

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Anji said:

minneapolisgenius said:

I have no kids yet, but the main reason I probably will have them later is because I would feel lonely in later life without them. I have such a good relationship with my parents, and I will always be there for them. So, I don't want get really old and have no one, no family of my own to visit me and care for me. I would just end up taking a bunch of meds and ending it all if I end up alone and old.
Cool, I get on with my parents really well too, and have always been loved to bits by them. I used to think along the same lines as you, I probably still do. So, what makes people think you'll end up alone and old if you don't have kids? And alone and old necessarily mean unhappy? I know that in my community, everyone without kids is kinda looked down upon (in a 'feel sorry for them' kinda way).

sad

What made me realize that I eventually wanted kids was because of something that happened last year.

I went to the funeral of one of my husband's great uncles. His wife was there (they were both in their 80's) and she was just devastated. About three weeks later, she died too. They had just been separated the month before because they were to live in two different nursing homes. They had never lived apart. They never had children, and no one but my husband's mother ever went to visit them.

It was very sad. Before he died, my husband's great uncle used to call our house all the time, and just be really confused and sad, and just want to talk. I don't want to end up like that.
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Reply #11 posted 05/20/03 1:41pm

Anji

Supernova said:

Anji said:

I understand why many people have children, and what makes them feel that their lot are an invaluable source of happiness, but what happens if you're already happy? Why would you want to have children then? Aren't they just an incredible drain? Don't get me wrong; I like cute, fat, sumo-wrestler style babies, but that's not the point.

eek

There's nothing wrong with not being ready,
willing and/or able to start a family. If that
time comes at all, it's different for different
people. Even if you're the same age that your
peers are and some of them have children, it
doesn't mean that you should have them too.
Ideally it's about where you are at a certain
stage in your life, and whether or not you're ready
for that responsibility.

I'm just glad I'm not a kid growing up with the current
generation of kids. There's a lot going on in this era
that I'm glad I didn't have to deal with when I was
younger. And on the other side of the coin, I don't wish
I was still a kid in the '70s and '80s either.
So you think I'm not ready to have babies yet, Super?! lol
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Reply #12 posted 05/20/03 1:45pm

Anji

langebleu said:

Anji said:

I understand why many people have children, and what makes them feel that their lot are an invaluable source of happiness, but what happens if you're already happy? Why would you want to have children then? Aren't they just an incredible drain? Don't get me wrong; I like cute, fat, sumo-wrestler style babies, but that's not the point.

eek
If you are already happy and you see your happiness being dependent upon not having the physical, emotional, financial and other responsibilities that parenting brings with it, then becoming a parent is not a good idea - not least for the child's sake.
Yes, I'm happy. The idea of responsibility - physical, emotional and financial - doesn't scare me but why take it on in the first place? I don't think it's good enough a reason to have children just because that's what everyone else is doing. So what is?

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Reply #13 posted 05/20/03 1:46pm

Heavenly

I don't know if I'll ever have children.
But if I will, it's mostly to share the most beautiful creation with the person I love the most.
And to be able to appreciate life more, by creating one. or two smile
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Reply #14 posted 05/20/03 1:49pm

Anji

CAMILLE4U said:

Anji said:

but what happens if you're already happy?


If your happy then that's cool. There is no reason for a particular individual to have them. It won't make a major diference to the good of the world.

But some people don't feel satisfied unless they have. Also I think that having children is a way of preserving yourself.
I would be concerned if I was not feeling satisfied without them. To be honest with you, this is all quite a novel concept to me - the idea to not have children. I've just always assumed I will have a family (and a cool one at that) because that's considered the 'norm' in my family. Plus, it's always been viewed as something to look forward to.

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Reply #15 posted 05/20/03 1:51pm

Anji

minneapolisgenius said:

Anji said:

minneapolisgenius said:

I have no kids yet, but the main reason I probably will have them later is because I would feel lonely in later life without them. I have such a good relationship with my parents, and I will always be there for them. So, I don't want get really old and have no one, no family of my own to visit me and care for me. I would just end up taking a bunch of meds and ending it all if I end up alone and old.
Cool, I get on with my parents really well too, and have always been loved to bits by them. I used to think along the same lines as you, I probably still do. So, what makes people think you'll end up alone and old if you don't have kids? And alone and old necessarily mean unhappy? I know that in my community, everyone without kids is kinda looked down upon (in a 'feel sorry for them' kinda way).

sad

What made me realize that I eventually wanted kids was because of something that happened last year.

I went to the funeral of one of my husband's great uncles. His wife was there (they were both in their 80's) and she was just devastated. About three weeks later, she died too. They had just been separated the month before because they were to live in two different nursing homes. They had never lived apart. They never had children, and no one but my husband's mother ever went to visit them.

It was very sad. Before he died, my husband's great uncle used to call our house all the time, and just be really confused and sad, and just want to talk. I don't want to end up like that.
That would be one of my fears, it still very much is. I guess there's just nothing quite like family.

smile
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Reply #16 posted 05/20/03 1:53pm

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Anji said:

minneapolisgenius said:

Anji said:

minneapolisgenius said:

I have no kids yet, but the main reason I probably will have them later is because I would feel lonely in later life without them. I have such a good relationship with my parents, and I will always be there for them. So, I don't want get really old and have no one, no family of my own to visit me and care for me. I would just end up taking a bunch of meds and ending it all if I end up alone and old.
Cool, I get on with my parents really well too, and have always been loved to bits by them. I used to think along the same lines as you, I probably still do. So, what makes people think you'll end up alone and old if you don't have kids? And alone and old necessarily mean unhappy? I know that in my community, everyone without kids is kinda looked down upon (in a 'feel sorry for them' kinda way).

sad

What made me realize that I eventually wanted kids was because of something that happened last year.

I went to the funeral of one of my husband's great uncles. His wife was there (they were both in their 80's) and she was just devastated. About three weeks later, she died too. They had just been separated the month before because they were to live in two different nursing homes. They had never lived apart. They never had children, and no one but my husband's mother ever went to visit them.

It was very sad. Before he died, my husband's great uncle used to call our house all the time, and just be really confused and sad, and just want to talk. I don't want to end up like that.
That would be one of my fears, it still very much is. I guess there's just nothing quite like family.

smile

Yeah. Except that family is putting on the pressurepressurepressure! for me to get pregnant! evil
Now that's annoying.
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Reply #17 posted 05/20/03 1:53pm

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Anji said:

I understand why many people have children, and what makes them feel that their lot are an invaluable source of happiness, but what happens if you're already happy? Why would you want to have children then? Aren't they just an incredible drain? Don't get me wrong; I like cute, fat, sumo-wrestler style babies, but that's not the point.

eek


I think it'd be kinda sweet mushy

Though not yet...

shake Good God no shake

I do also share in part the same theory as minneapolis- so u are not alone when u are older... sigh

But other than that general I get on really well with my family we are always there for each other and are close... not many people i know share this type of bond with their families...

I want (obviously in many years time) to create a family likewise- generally supportive and caring...

Saying this as long as u are in love and happy with a person I don't suppose this matters shrug
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Reply #18 posted 05/20/03 1:54pm

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mmm... the only purpose of life on earth is to propogate itself until the our cycle's time is up...

everything else we do is just a complication or repression of the urge to reproduce and keep our thing going...
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Reply #19 posted 05/20/03 2:00pm

Anji

ufoclub said:

mmm... the only purpose of life on earth is to propogate itself until the our cycle's time is up...

everything else we do is just a complication or repression of the urge to reproduce and keep our thing going...

Are you devoid of emotion, dude? eek
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Reply #20 posted 05/20/03 2:01pm

Anji

minneapolisgenius said:

Anji said:

minneapolisgenius said:

Anji said:

minneapolisgenius said:

I have no kids yet, but the main reason I probably will have them later is because I would feel lonely in later life without them. I have such a good relationship with my parents, and I will always be there for them. So, I don't want get really old and have no one, no family of my own to visit me and care for me. I would just end up taking a bunch of meds and ending it all if I end up alone and old.
Cool, I get on with my parents really well too, and have always been loved to bits by them. I used to think along the same lines as you, I probably still do. So, what makes people think you'll end up alone and old if you don't have kids? And alone and old necessarily mean unhappy? I know that in my community, everyone without kids is kinda looked down upon (in a 'feel sorry for them' kinda way).

sad

What made me realize that I eventually wanted kids was because of something that happened last year.

I went to the funeral of one of my husband's great uncles. His wife was there (they were both in their 80's) and she was just devastated. About three weeks later, she died too. They had just been separated the month before because they were to live in two different nursing homes. They had never lived apart. They never had children, and no one but my husband's mother ever went to visit them.

It was very sad. Before he died, my husband's great uncle used to call our house all the time, and just be really confused and sad, and just want to talk. I don't want to end up like that.
That would be one of my fears, it still very much is. I guess there's just nothing quite like family.

smile

Yeah. Except that family is putting on the pressurepressurepressure! for me to get pregnant! evil
Now that's annoying.
Damn, you're a girl?! lol
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Reply #21 posted 05/20/03 2:02pm

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Anji said:

minneapolisgenius said:

Anji said:

minneapolisgenius said:

Anji said:

minneapolisgenius said:

I have no kids yet, but the main reason I probably will have them later is because I would feel lonely in later life without them. I have such a good relationship with my parents, and I will always be there for them. So, I don't want get really old and have no one, no family of my own to visit me and care for me. I would just end up taking a bunch of meds and ending it all if I end up alone and old.
Cool, I get on with my parents really well too, and have always been loved to bits by them. I used to think along the same lines as you, I probably still do. So, what makes people think you'll end up alone and old if you don't have kids? And alone and old necessarily mean unhappy? I know that in my community, everyone without kids is kinda looked down upon (in a 'feel sorry for them' kinda way).

sad

What made me realize that I eventually wanted kids was because of something that happened last year.

I went to the funeral of one of my husband's great uncles. His wife was there (they were both in their 80's) and she was just devastated. About three weeks later, she died too. They had just been separated the month before because they were to live in two different nursing homes. They had never lived apart. They never had children, and no one but my husband's mother ever went to visit them.

It was very sad. Before he died, my husband's great uncle used to call our house all the time, and just be really confused and sad, and just want to talk. I don't want to end up like that.
That would be one of my fears, it still very much is. I guess there's just nothing quite like family.

smile

Yeah. Except that family is putting on the pressurepressurepressure! for me to get pregnant! evil
Now that's annoying.
Damn, you're a girl?! lol

Yep. You thought I was a man this whole time? After talking about my husband and all?
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Reply #22 posted 05/20/03 2:02pm

Anji

JaneyPoos said:

Anji said:

I understand why many people have children, and what makes them feel that their lot are an invaluable source of happiness, but what happens if you're already happy? Why would you want to have children then? Aren't they just an incredible drain? Don't get me wrong; I like cute, fat, sumo-wrestler style babies, but that's not the point.

eek


I think it'd be kinda sweet mushy

Though not yet...

shake Good God no shake

I do also share in part the same theory as minneapolis- so u are not alone when u are older... sigh

But other than that general I get on really well with my family we are always there for each other and are close... not many people i know share this type of bond with their families...

I want (obviously in many years time) to create a family likewise- generally supportive and caring...

Saying this as long as u are in love and happy with a person I don't suppose this matters shrug
Yo Janey, you wanna have babies?! Now that's funny, monkey! lol
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Reply #23 posted 05/20/03 2:04pm

AzureStar

I want more children... why? Selfish reasons... one being that I loved being pregnant.

Anji... careful when you toss the balloon... smile
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Reply #24 posted 05/20/03 2:05pm

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Anji said:

I don't think it's good enough a reason to have children just because that's what everyone else is doing. So what is?
I agree.

The reason that I decided to try to become a parent was because both myself and my wife felt we wanted to share our love and happiness with the responsibility of any new life with which we were blessed.
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Reply #25 posted 05/20/03 2:05pm

Anji

minneapolisgenius said:

Anji said:

minneapolisgenius said:

Anji said:

minneapolisgenius said:

Anji said:

minneapolisgenius said:

I have no kids yet, but the main reason I probably will have them later is because I would feel lonely in later life without them. I have such a good relationship with my parents, and I will always be there for them. So, I don't want get really old and have no one, no family of my own to visit me and care for me. I would just end up taking a bunch of meds and ending it all if I end up alone and old.
Cool, I get on with my parents really well too, and have always been loved to bits by them. I used to think along the same lines as you, I probably still do. So, what makes people think you'll end up alone and old if you don't have kids? And alone and old necessarily mean unhappy? I know that in my community, everyone without kids is kinda looked down upon (in a 'feel sorry for them' kinda way).

sad

What made me realize that I eventually wanted kids was because of something that happened last year.

I went to the funeral of one of my husband's great uncles. His wife was there (they were both in their 80's) and she was just devastated. About three weeks later, she died too. They had just been separated the month before because they were to live in two different nursing homes. They had never lived apart. They never had children, and no one but my husband's mother ever went to visit them.

It was very sad. Before he died, my husband's great uncle used to call our house all the time, and just be really confused and sad, and just want to talk. I don't want to end up like that.
That would be one of my fears, it still very much is. I guess there's just nothing quite like family.

smile

Yeah. Except that family is putting on the pressurepressurepressure! for me to get pregnant! evil
Now that's annoying.
Damn, you're a girl?! lol

Yep. You thought I was a man this whole time? After talking about my husband and all?
Sorry, I guess I must have missed that. Something about you came across as being masculine (probably the avatar); I've taken a closer look now.

redface
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Reply #26 posted 05/20/03 2:06pm

JaneyPoos

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Anji said:

JaneyPoos said:

Anji said:

I understand why many people have children, and what makes them feel that their lot are an invaluable source of happiness, but what happens if you're already happy? Why would you want to have children then? Aren't they just an incredible drain? Don't get me wrong; I like cute, fat, sumo-wrestler style babies, but that's not the point.

eek


I think it'd be kinda sweet mushy

Though not yet...

shake Good God no shake

I do also share in part the same theory as minneapolis- so u are not alone when u are older... sigh

But other than that general I get on really well with my family we are always there for each other and are close... not many people i know share this type of bond with their families...

I want (obviously in many years time) to create a family likewise- generally supportive and caring...

Saying this as long as u are in love and happy with a person I don't suppose this matters shrug
Yo Janey, you wanna have babies?! Now that's funny, monkey! lol


biggrin yay i did a funny batting eyes

I don't mean i want kids right now!!! Hell no!!! Infact i wasnt too keen at all it was jus'at the weekend i had to look after my nephew(5) and niece(3) and i loved it the way they looked up to me and craved my love and attention... biggrin

they are little shits most of the time though rolleyes

lol

not many perks really i spose shrug
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Reply #27 posted 05/20/03 2:07pm

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Anji said:

Supernova said:

Anji said:

I understand why many people have children, and what makes them feel that their lot are an invaluable source of happiness, but what happens if you're already happy? Why would you want to have children then? Aren't they just an incredible drain? Don't get me wrong; I like cute, fat, sumo-wrestler style babies, but that's not the point.

eek

There's nothing wrong with not being ready,
willing and/or able to start a family. If that
time comes at all, it's different for different
people. Even if you're the same age that your
peers are and some of them have children, it
doesn't mean that you should have them too.
Ideally it's about where you are at a certain
stage in your life, and whether or not you're ready
for that responsibility.

I'm just glad I'm not a kid growing up with the current
generation of kids. There's a lot going on in this era
that I'm glad I didn't have to deal with when I was
younger. And on the other side of the coin, I don't wish
I was still a kid in the '70s and '80s either.
So you think I'm not ready to have babies yet, Super?! lol

That could be the case. There are those who say they don't want kids, but end up wanting them later on in life.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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MrBliss

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Reply #29 posted 05/20/03 2:09pm

Anji

AzureStar said:

I want more children... why? Selfish reasons... one being that I loved being pregnant.

Anji... careful when you toss the balloon... smile
Babooney! So, did you look sexy when you were pregnant?! And did you have any cravings?

(I'm being careful. Are you?) lol
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