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PrintableAprilMichelle said: Children, even young ones are capable of understanding things besides force...I am a firm believer in the fact that those who use spanking or other fear based physical dicipline methods severly lack imagination and/or perseverance. Depending on the age and personality type of the child, there are countless other methods of dicipline. Spanking is a cop out.
Grown adults do not make a habit for of hitting/caning/paddling people for simple infractions (at least not in the us)...things have consequences yes, but only in extreme situations does it escalate to violence in adult situations. At least not the legal kind anyway. There's a difference between beating a kid to oblivion and a little crack on the butt to jar the child and get its attention. Yelling at a child can possibly have damaging emotional consequences, should we ban that too? If you're in line at the checkout with your kid in the buggy, and it starts throwing a fit grabbing items off the shelf and throwing them at the person in front of you, screaming at the top of its lungs, what are you going to say or do to it that would make it stop, and let the kid know that that's wrong? | |
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People have been sheltered.
It's certainly NOT that every parent who feels they have to resort to a spanking is inept, or lacks patience. The Nancy Reagan meek and mild "Just Say No" rhetoric didn't work with drugs, and "Timeout" sure as hell won't work for all kids either. There's a world of different dynamics happening in different families across the world. Just like the "Timeout"/"Just Say No" people aren't privy to what's going on in someone else's family, the parents/guardians of kids who use a spanking as a last resort don't necessarily know what's going on in the "Timeout" family either. The one method fits all mentality for kids DOES NOT WORK FOR ALL KIDS. Abuse comes in many forms, and doesn't come from a mere spanking...it's also emotional and verbal. It's only abuse when it's taken too far. And I know some think a mere spanking is ALWAYS taking it too far. This spanking is bad mentality is a relatively new phenomenon that doesn't address the more likely real forms of abuse that goes on even more, and is just another way for the local government to keep their noses in someone else's private business. And once that mentality came into vogue I've noticed that kids have gotten more violent than ever before. I don't believe there's anything ironic about that either. The "authorities" don't always exhibit the rational common sense that they preach either. Who the hell are they to judge? £ [This message was edited Sun May 18 11:36:51 PDT 2003 by Supernova] This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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SuperC said: We're raising Children of the Corn.
You see, THIS is why I'm reluctant to have a baby. Shit like that just scares me because it's true. "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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dont be ignorant...
people dont just get their kids taken away... kids dont understand the wrong doing of adults they suffer them | |
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Finess said: Lisa u always have to bring being "black" in every thread u start, lemme explain something to you, iv'e seen more white and hispanic kids get taken away because of accusations of abuse,yes its a fucked up world Lisa, but ghat dammit stop using being "black" as a crutch in every thread u post.this aint a flame, but someone needed to come at you like this.
finess i try not 2 use it as a crutch, but it's just that ish happens  | |
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AprilMichelle said: Children, even young ones are capable of understanding things besides force...I am a firm believer in the fact that those who use spanking or other fear based physical dicipline methods severly lack imagination and/or perseverance. Depending on the age and personality type of the child, there are countless other methods of dicipline. Spanking is a cop out.
Grown adults do not make a habit for of hitting/caning/paddling people for simple infractions (at least not in the us)...things have consequences yes, but only in extreme situations does it escalate to violence in adult situations. At least not the legal kind anyway. It is completely obvious that you have never had children. You are sooo talking out your mary poppins ass!!! Each child is different ...my son I have never had to lay a hand on...my daughter however pushes things to the spank me stage at least once a month!! both are great kids, neither have ever been abused, they just require different reinforcement.. Do me a favor and wait until you have raised a child before condemning the methods of those of us that have... Speak on what you know and  on shit you have no clue.
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DigitalLisa said: Finess said: Lisa u always have to bring being "black" in every thread u start, lemme explain something to you, iv'e seen more white and hispanic kids get taken away because of accusations of abuse,yes its a fucked up world Lisa, but ghat dammit stop using being "black" as a crutch in every thread u post.this aint a flame, but someone needed to come at you like this.
finess i try not 2 use it as a crutch, but it's just that ish happens I was sorta thinking the same thing Lisa. This is more of a class issue than race. Sometimes we confuse issues of classism and poverty issues and race although there maybe some underlying issues involving race. | |
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