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Reply #30 posted 05/09/03 6:07pm

AzureStar

DigitalLisa said:

DigitalLisa said:

DigitalLisa said:

alexnevermind319 said:

DigitalLisa said:

AprilMichelle said:

DigitalLisa said:

AprilMichelle said:

DigitalLisa said:

I was talking about the thugged nuccas who try to be so hard out in the street and around their boyz and when late night comes, they all up in a Ginuwine video lol This wasn't a dis 2 gay people so speak, I don't see how you could've gotten that wrong... I was making fun of those who maybe whatever and try so hard not to be , how could you miss that lol


I missed the supposed humor of this post because given some of your previous threads on homosexuality (since according to other previous statements of yours bisexuality doesn't exist...they're just "greedy") you seem to have a severe lack of understanding of those differently oriented than you are. I am aware of the issue of people such as you speak of (men who are leading gay/straight double lives). However if people such as yourself would desist making them the butt of jokes or bearer of stereotypes, such individuals would be more upfront about their personal practices. Oh wait that would add to the phenomenon of there being "so many gay people now". Good God us gays/lesbians/bisexuaL/transgendered people spread faster than SARS! Whatever shall you do with yourself? I assume you'd continue to spout the same tied platitude of pathetic sterotypes that has come up in almost every thread involving you and the subject of gay people. I could almost die from the total lack of surprise. rolleyes yawn


You making something out of nothing,you should lighten up, it's really not that serious, people make fun of me, I make fun of people, gay people make fun of gay people, but since i'm straight making fun of gay, I'm a bad crinimal people do,it's what people do... I hang around gay men all the time, that's how I know what I know and they say the same thing I do, so STOP TRYING TO BE SO DARN POLITICAL CORRECT DAMMIT...

Cuz I love Everybody, NUFF SAID

Wasn't I the one who said I like watching gay porn and I just so happen to think gay man are sexy, George Micheal for example

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[This message was edited Thu May 8 15:57:07 PDT 2003 by DigitalLisa]


Fuck political correctness...I'm bisexual and feel the statments you are making are offensive to a community I'm very much a part of...Also if a man is gay why does that make his "thugged out" masculine qualities less genuine? There are plenty of masculine acting gay men, just as there are feminine lesbians. A straight person is not judged as being less masculine or feminine for being straight, as that really is not relevant to the discussion. Why should sexual preference determine a persons right to assume the gender role (another concept you seem to hold as quite fixed and rigid) they feel comfortable with? A person's physical sex (which is determined by obvious means at birth) has nothing to do with their personal concept of gender (which is determined by cultural conditioning and personal worldview). I'm getting upset with the statements you are making because myself and many others feel the effect of this type of pigeon holed thinking on a daily basis...
As for the "I have gay friends... I love everyone"statement...I've met many a racist, sexist or otherwise prejudiced person use this line "I am not (racist,sexist,anti semetic, insert prejudice here) ...I have (black, female, Jewish, whatever) FRIENDS..." Meanwhile the person is perpetuating nasty stereotypes or misconceptions that they supposedly don't support.
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[This message was edited Fri May 9 6:21:40 PDT 2003 by AprilMichelle]

if you choose to be this way, then why do you care what I say or think, I could careless of what you, you don't have to justify anything to me, I haven't judge anybody, yet you're the one who's judging me as a racist or a sexiest or whatever,:Roll:... I have nothing against people and if anybody knows me, they know for this for a fact. I think you are just so quick to being offensive about your sexuality, you're ready to stab somebody with a knife that had no intentions of doing no harm whatsoever, I still don't see how my statment is offensive when considering the fact it was not about you. If you choose to be this way then fine, you gotta understand everybody is not going agree, just like you don't agree with half the things I say, it's what makes the world go round babeh... but please don't call me racist call that's what I'm not I ain't got nothing against nobody smile


"If you choose to be this way, then why do you care what i say or think..."...omfg...like being gay/bi/transgender is a fucking choice?...Truthfully, would u seriously "choose" this life?...confuse...would u want to live your entire life having to deal with knuckldraggers who want to do nothing but try to divide ppl into little boxes?...ok...i am a gay man...i am not a "fem" person...Usually when ppl meet me on the street they have no idea who i sleep with...So more than likely Lisa you would hit on me...I have a lot of gay friends i.e. "thugged nuccas" :confused: at this concept...who think that it is none of anyones business what goes on in their bedrooms...and they would never tell you that they have a boyfriend at home, because a lot of ppl don't take well to rejection...not to say that they would lead you on, but at risk of being "outed" they would just let you come to your own conclusions...The whole "I have many gay friends" thing, do they know what you post here?...have you ever really printed out any of the topics that you start and send them a copy to get their reaction?...but anyway...i am tired of bitching on this topic...hope you free your mind one day...hug


Alex u know we're cool, we even dicuss on different guys who we think is hott or not before... I just still don't understand why in the hell is AprilMichelle making such a big deal about this... becuase the whole point of this thread was... (you know someone always miss the point) next guy I talk to, I'm going to ask him if he ever had any same sex experiences, if so, I want to know, how in the freak did I turn out to be a racist, it beats the hell out of me, but aww well you win and a loose some, you don't see me crying, I will continue to make friends or the org gay, straight or whatever and when I date a guy, I'm still going to ask the question which started this whole conversation in the first damn place ...

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[This message was edited Fri May 9 17:46:01 PDT 2003 by DigitalLisa]

And if you where truly okay by who you where, you wouldn't be so quick to jump to a defensive by any statment I have made when it really isn't necessary I haven't said anything derogatory , this is all a said case of misunderstanding... maybe I should just continue to post in mizzunderstood lol

Okay did anybody else miss what I was trying to say lol ?
[This message was edited Fri May 9 18:03:04 PDT 2003 by DigitalLisa]

I know I'm not the only person who may said what I say... but really your approaching the wrong person... seriously you are one of my favorite movies is Holiday Heart, staring Ving Rhames and he plays a drag Queen... yet I'm a racist disbelief



Lisa... I've been following this and you lost me there...


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[This message was edited Fri May 9 18:08:14 PDT 2003 by AzureStar]
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Reply #31 posted 05/09/03 6:07pm

DigitalLisa

and I love to wong foo thanks for everything Juli Numar, The bird cage is just the best...
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Reply #32 posted 05/09/03 6:09pm

AzureStar

DigitalLisa said:

and I love to wong foo thanks for everything Juli Numar, The bird cage is just the best...



Hold up... because you like movies with people portraying gay people... nevermind. I'm staying out of this...

Are you being facetious?
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Reply #33 posted 05/09/03 6:12pm

DigitalLisa

AzureStar said:

DigitalLisa said:

and I love to wong foo thanks for everything Juli Numar, The bird cage is just the best...



Hold up... because you like movies with people portraying gay people... nevermind. I'm staying out of this...

Are you being facetious?

I go to gay clubs with a male friend every other weekend and I had to remind myself not to say any words I might regret, but you know they used the word faggot and dyke more then I ever did in my life and it was no harm done, nobody was hurt nobody was offened cuz we all understood were we where coming from ...
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Reply #34 posted 05/09/03 6:14pm

DigitalLisa

We have the best times of our lives, this is really where the whole conversation begin with them ... I just thought it was interesting enough to bring it to the org, I just forgot one detail I'm straight so it wouldn't have the same response lol
[This message was edited Fri May 9 18:14:58 PDT 2003 by DigitalLisa]
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Reply #35 posted 05/09/03 6:14pm

jessyMD32781

to quote Keith from my favorite show Six Feet Under (he's a gay character for those who don't know): "Man, I loved fucking women." I guess sexuality isn't just about the sex, chica. wink
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Reply #36 posted 05/09/03 6:18pm

DigitalLisa

DigitalLisa said:

We have the best times of our lives, this is really where the whole conversation begin with them ... I just thought it was interesting enough to bring it to the org, I just forgot one detail I'm straight so it wouldn't have the same response lol
[This message was edited Fri May 9 18:14:58 PDT 2003 by DigitalLisa]

and the one thing my gay male friend (who just so happens to be one of my best friends) told me (who's nota femin as the slang goes)is the next time I talk to a guy, make sure I ask him about himself "cuz there's alot of fooling going around in these prts..... be careful "in his words... so if ur angry with anybody be angry with my friend who's been gay his entire life smile

I'm have to bring him on here I see, so he can tell y'all I ain't no racist lol

me and racist in the same sentence lol

like you never make fun people aprilmichelle wink
[This message was edited Fri May 9 18:26:15 PDT 2003 by DigitalLisa]
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Reply #37 posted 05/11/03 5:55am

AprilMichelle

This thread has nothing to do with racism (noun-fear or dislike of people different from ones own race,actions stemming from such fear or dislike)...We are addressing the issue of homophobia. Perhaps your arguements would be clearer if the correct term was used. Just a thought.
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Reply #38 posted 05/11/03 6:11am

minneapolisgen
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Reply #39 posted 05/11/03 8:45am

DigitalLisa

AprilMichelle said:

This thread has nothing to do with racism (noun-fear or dislike of people different from ones own race,actions stemming from such fear or dislike)...We are addressing the issue of homophobia. Perhaps your arguements would be clearer if the correct term was used. Just a thought.

well sexism 2 be politically correct lol

I'm not the one who's arguing, you are, I'm just defending my own right of passage
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Reply #40 posted 05/11/03 8:46am

Heavenly

Does this cat live in a hat?

(oops, this is not one of those 'ask me anything' threads...)
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Reply #41 posted 05/11/03 12:51pm

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DigitalLisa said:

AprilMichelle said:

This thread has nothing to do with racism (noun-fear or dislike of people different from ones own race,actions stemming from such fear or dislike)...We are addressing the issue of homophobia. Perhaps your arguements would be clearer if the correct term was used. Just a thought.

well sexism 2 be politically correct lol

I'm not the one who's arguing, you are, I'm just defending my own right of passage
[This message was edited Sun May 11 8:46:08 PDT 2003 by DigitalLisa]



No Digi...this is pretty much Homophobia...the misunderstanding/fear of the gay community...and i am not telling you not to ask the next guy that you go out with whether or not he has had a same sex encounter...what i am saying is that you are more than likely gonna offend 99% of the ppl that you ask...and even if they say "no"...how are you gonna know if they are telling the truth or not?...confuse...i know a lot of "str8" men who have had at least 1 homosexual encounter in their lives...this could cover everything from a "circle-jerk" to being molested as a child...hmm...if u truly like the person...u must have trust that they will tell you when the time is right...i have a female friend who just recently found out that her boyfriend of 6 years had a relationship with a man during college...eek...and it has done nothing but make their relationship stronger...shrug...Go forth and try 2 do no harm...but really...lets not let small minds keep us from something that could turn out 2 b the best relationship of ur life...nod
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Reply #42 posted 05/11/03 4:48pm

DigitalLisa

FOR THE LAST TIME I'M NOT HOMOPHOBIC DAMMIT AND I REPEAT I'M NOT HOMOPHOBIC WHATSOEVER !

SEE THE LAST TIME I POST A HONEST QUESTION

I think y'all need to go back and read again, this time read between the lines ...

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Reply #43 posted 05/12/03 5:25am

AprilMichelle

Okay fine you're NOT homophobic, but on at least two threads you have made some ignorant and homophobic sounding statements. Better?

Perhaps if your honest questions were worded in a slightly different manner, you would gain the responses you seek.

Correct me if I'm wrong here...
Aren't rites of passage a culture's rituals to mark the end of childhood and beginning of adulthood (which would make it a bit awkward sentence structure wise to "defend" one or perhaps the phrase is not applicable in this usage) or does this have another meaning also? Some orger who is a bigger linguistics nazi than me please inform me if there is another meaning to this expression...
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Reply #44 posted 05/12/03 5:53am

Blackcat

Hey I have an idea, let's just throw away the labeling machine and try to accept people as just that -- people. without the labels. There is so much labelling here on the org, I can't see how anybody gets along with anybody. rolleyes
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Reply #45 posted 05/12/03 6:26am

pimpdoutt

dammnnn april...
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Reply #46 posted 05/13/03 3:27pm

lust

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Blackcat said:

Hey I have an idea, let's just throw away the labeling machine and try to accept people as just that -- people. without the labels. There is so much labelling here on the org, I can't see how anybody gets along with anybody. rolleyes


The way I see it is the "so-called" Jews who believe they are God's chosen people feel they deserve something special because of this title. But from where I sit, those who call themselves Jews have not acted very godly for a very, very, very long time. In fact, their history and current culture is quite the opposite.


the above is from one of your posts...nuff said nutty
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