Am3121 said:

I once had a therapist who looked just like Rosanne.So I would be in my sessions and it would be just like talking to Rosanne Arnold I finally got the nerve to tell her she looked like Rosanne .... I don't think she took it as a compliment [Edited 7/12/23 14:07pm]

I once had a therapist who looked just like Willem Dafoe.

She didn't like it when I told her, either.

TA-DA-BOOM!

Am3121 said:

ShellyMcG said:

I loved Elaine's boss. I can't remember his name but you know that grey haired guy? I loved that part where he takes Elaine to the cinema to watch some snooty movie and she's losing her mind because it's so bad. He turns to her and asks if she's not enjoying the movie and she just screams "I HATE IT" Or anything with George's dad. He was always great in every scene. Especially in the outtakes. "You want a piece of me?"

Yeah he was funny.Idk his name but I think he use to host family feud I believe that movie was the English patient.I too myself have never seen it. Have you?

Mr. Petterman. I've been watching Seinfeld repeats more often on TVLAND

nayroo2002 said:

Am3121 said:

nayroo2002 said:

I once had a therapist who looked just like Willem Dafoe.

She didn't like it when I told her, either.

TA-DA-BOOM!

Seriously? Bet that was frightening William Dafoe is good looking only when he's not smiling so I guess you were picturing the green goblin when you were talking to her?

William?

You must be picturing someone else, then?

Willem is an ugly mf!

nayroo2002 said:

kpowers said:

TrivialPursuit said:

I believe most shows end and should just stay that way. Not everything needs a reboot for the sake of nostalgia or whatever.

Will & Grace had a decent reboot until Debra Messing lived up to her last name. They went after some current social issues, in the era of , but it ended abruptly it seems.

They've tried to reboot dramas like Dynasty and Dallas, but those lasted a few season. Dallas 3, Dynasty 5. Good runs, but were they necessary? Probably not. They tried it with 90210, Melrose Place and type, as well.

And now Matlock is getting a reboot with Kathy Bates, who even says, "Yes, Matlock, like that old TV show...." in the first episode.

I think the problem is viewer laziness. There's a mental lethargy that happens with things now where you have to keep the viewer's attention 24/7 or it's considered a failure. This comes from being able to binge watch a whole series on Netflix or Prime. People aren't always willing to keep up with a weekly show anymore. At least maybe the over-60 crowd.

And everything has to be a franchise now. There are six billion 911, Chicago, CSI, SVU, Law & Order, FBI, etc shows on right now. Some networks, and smartly, have settled into those for a weekly fanbase. It works. It allows for crossovers and "tv events." And for that viewership, it meets a need.

But in 2023, how many people are truly interested in a Married... with Children reboot? It'll never happen. A spin-off? Now??? hard pass. Yes, they show never got a proper ending. But many shows didn't. Not everything gets a proper Breaking Bad or OZ type ending. Dexter's reboot was really to re-do the original series ending, and it succeeded. Cuz that original ending was horseshit and we all knew it.

The other problem is Hollywood's mental lethargy. They can't come up with anything that interesting. It's a tough market for network and even cable TV because streaming is really pushing boundaries with being able to put whatever rating they want on it and not worry about censorship. Someone says fuck? Okay. (I think Breaking Bad got one "fuck" per season.) Not a big deal. It's why cable networks are 90% reality shows or competition shows. There is no real, scripted programming. Cable has become the wasteland of reality shows. It's not just Bravo or TLC or whatever. Man, I remember when we turned on A&E for a concert, or a play or something. Anything. Now it's ...Hoarders???

So it's tough to really come up with a good show that gets people's attention. Yet series like Them was fantastic, but only had one season. Why? We can't see these people in the 1960s next? Mad Men took us through multiple decades. Them, a show about white supremacy that is also in the horror-genre, can't get a second fucking season??

I'm sorta glad there's "too much" to pick from. But at least my options are truly open to something I've never seen before.

Barely. The show took place between 1960 and 1970 so viewers saw only one season in a decade other than the 60s.

Sorry, I'm being nitpicky only because Mad Men is my favorite TV show.

"J. Peterman," parody of those J. Peterman catalogues that were big in the 90s.

Like when he greets George for the first time, "George, J. Peterman," and then George pops his collar and goes "J. Crew."

The reunion being on Curb was kind of weird and kind of a waste, and I say that as a huge huge Larry David stan. Maybe the rationale was they did Seinfeld on "Jerry's show" for 9 seasons, they could do it on "Larry's show" for 1.

The best Seinfeld reunion is the Larry David episode of Jerry Seinfeld's Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee. It's literally getting to hang out with the real life George & Jerry updated to their modern sensibilties for 15 minutes, complete with coffee shop.

"Remember how I used to eat cereal all the time?"
"You still do that?"
"Naah."

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TrivialPursuit said:

Production, quality of writing, etc. change over time, as does our expectations of television shows.

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Now, I used to love Laverne and Shirley (which ran after Happy Days and before Three Company on Tuesday nights on ABC). But now - eeehhh, it's funny. But I'm not drawn to watch it over and over.

A lot of just this is the nature of TV now.

These old-school sitcoms were build to thirst for reruns or replays like a week later, the next day later, commercial breaks, etc.

Straight unfiltered, no commercials, ability to easily click stream binge through all 7 seasons of Mary Tyler Moore, the shows just hit different. They were constructed assuming these 8 minute chunks of comedy would always be broken up by the necessities of every day life.

Also you highlighting Laverne & Shirley's placement between two shows you do like factors in, too. I tend to think my taste in stuff as a kid was accurate--the stuff that's iffy is usually Laverne & Shirley scenarios where it just happened to be sandwiched in between a block of good stuff so I watched it anyway... again, the nature of the TV medium then, you had to sit through a certain % of meh to get to your favorite shows if they were in those prime time blocks they all were. Now you can just hit a button...

Hey Dude was the one if there's any 90s Nickoldean kids out there. All 90s kids I interact with include Hey Dude like it's one of the great kid shows, but it's just because they'd sandwich Hey Dude between Salute Your Shorts and Double Dare.

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I got one speaking of kids shows.

Hire Kel Mitchell on SNL like they should have done over a decade ago and let him and Kenan Thompson reprise all their characters from All That.

WhisperingDandelions said:

Am3121 said:

That would be cool At least they are bringing kenan and kel back in "Good Burger 2" [Edited 7/12/23 21:25pm]

dayum, thx for the tip bruh. Curious on the script. Alleged creep0r Dan Schneider was the architect of those kids shows but he's probably in a bunker on a private island somewhere now.

Keenan said on his Howard Stern interview that the SNL producers actually made him and Kel audition against each other in the same room, and told them both they were only going to hire one of them.

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WhisperingDandelions said:

I saw Good Burger in the theater as a kid. Those orange VHS tapes are iconic.

The sketch was actually significantly better, the movie was kinda mid, the Dexter character didn't really add that much to the mythos, it just was fine with just Lester Oaks Construction Worker. Still hype for the sequel.

To me they just had great comic timing together and it's a shame that pairing wasn't allowed to develop/evolve into adulthood.

Kel kinda went Hollywood first, though. Mystery Men made it seem like Kel was gonna be the star. There was a 90s episode of SNICK back in the day where Keenan hosted the entire Saturday night block next to a cardboard-cut-out of Kel. It was sad.

WhisperingDandelions said:

Noice, another 90s Nick stan. Yeah Good Burger was their worst collab, but it was still solid. It's just a testament to how dope their other work is.

I want them to bring back Stick Stickly for gen-Z.2.

The Nick afternoon block GOAT.

WhisperingDandelions said:

Also you highlighting Laverne & Shirley's placement between two shows you do like factors in, too. I tend to think my taste in stuff as a kid was accurate--the stuff that's iffy is usually Laverne & Shirley scenarios where it just happened to be sandwiched in between a block of good stuff so I watched it anyway... again, the nature of the TV medium then, you had to sit through a certain % of meh to get to your favorite shows if they were in those prime time blocks they all were. Now you can just hit a button...

I believe that networks do have a good idea of what works side by side by side, I agree. Happy Days, Laverne and Shirley (which was a spin-off, as a reminder), and Three's Company was really ABC's 80's version of Must See TV.

But to talk about shit shows in between, in the 95/96 season, in Must See TV, the lineup was Friends, (one of the following: The Single Guy, Boston Common, The Single Guy), Seinfeld, Caroline in the City. Luckily that year, at 8:30, Living Single came on, so I easily flipped to FOX, then back to NBC at 9pm for Seinfeld.

So no doubt that they may try to put a decent show between two great shows. Seinfeld did not so great in the ratings in their first year or two. But was a staple for Must See TV, which also helped Friends, and anything else in that zone. There were stinkers here and there that you just sorta had to endure to get to what you wanted. Soap came after Three's Company at one point, which I thought was a fucking stupid show. But later Too Close for Comfort was put after TC, and it was a hit.

And the "just watched it anyway," was sorta good because even if the TV was just left on, and we were in another room, they still go the virtual click or view.

I still watch "Seinfeld". They ended at the right time and pretty much went out on top (which was smart). Wasn't "Moesha" supposed to come back but a bit more dramatic? "Who's The Boss?" was supposedly coming back where Allisa Milano's character and her young son moves back at home with Tony.

SPYZFAN1 said:

I still watch "Seinfeld". They ended at the right time and pretty much went out on top (which was smart). Wasn't "Moesha" supposed to come back but a bit more dramatic? "Who's The Boss?" was supposedly coming back where Allisa Milano's character and her young son moves back at home with Tony.

I thought The Game was the thing that came back but more dramatic?

ShellyMcG said:

I'd like to see Married With Children make a return. Even if it was just for a one off reunion special or something. I'd love to see what Al Bundy is up to now and how he'd get on in the 21st century.

It was announced fairly recently that there is a animated version of Married ...With Children in the works with the original cast. Christina Applegate can't really do a live action show now because of her health problems. I don't know if the neighbors are supposed to be involved since Ed O'Neill & Amanda Bearse didn't get along that well in real life. But things are announced all the time and nothing happens with them. There's also this strike going on that's stalling a lot of TV & movie productions.

SPYZFAN1 said:

Wasn't "Moesha" supposed to come back but a bit more dramatic?

They've done this with The Fresh Prince Of Bel-Air. The new version is titled Bel-Air. A few of the cast members of the original show have appeared, but playing different characters. I remember not that long ago there was a reunion of the original show cast including the original Aunt Viv. I noticed Alfonso Ribeiro disappeared when Janet Hubert showed up on the set. I guess he didn't want to make up with her.

MickyDolenz said:

I remember not that long ago there was a reunion of the original show cast including the original Aunt Viv. I noticed Alfonso Ribeiro disappeared when Janet Hubert showed up on the set. I guess he didn't want to make up with her..

As recently as 2016/7, Hubert said, "I know the media hoe Alphonso Ribero has posted his so-called reunion photo. Folks keep telling me about it. He was always the ass wipe for Will. There will never be a true reunion of the ‘Fresh Prince.’ I have no interest in seeing any of these people on that kind of level."

Yet after that reunion special, she tweeted, “Don’t assume. He was working, and I wasn’t there. Let it go sweetie, we have.” He said he was working and did his own photoshoot to be inserted in the reunion photo. Seems overly convenient that he was busy, with his ABC bosses knowing how important something like that reunion would be for everyone. Yet - they didn't give him time off? OR wherever he does radio, etc?

So not sure if her tweet indicates some sort of resolution between them, or what, but it doesn't necessarily feel like it.

TrivialPursuit said:

I believe that networks do have a good idea of what works side by side by side, I agree. Happy Days, Laverne and Shirley (which was a spin-off, as a reminder), and Three's Company was really ABC's 80's version of Must See TV.

But to talk about shit shows in between, in the 95/96 season, in Must See TV, the lineup was Friends, (one of the following: The Single Guy, Boston Common, The Single Guy), Seinfeld, Caroline in the City. Luckily that year, at 8:30, Living Single came on, so I easily flipped to FOX, then back to NBC at 9pm for Seinfeld.

So no doubt that they may try to put a decent show between two great shows. Seinfeld did not so great in the ratings in their first year or two. But was a staple for Must See TV, which also helped Friends, and anything else in that zone. There were stinkers here and there that you just sorta had to endure to get to what you wanted. Soap came after Three's Company at one point, which I thought was a fucking stupid show. But later Too Close for Comfort was put after TC, and it was a hit.

And the "just watched it anyway," was sorta good because even if the TV was just left on, and we were in another room, they still go the virtual click or view.

Yeah the fam I lived with chose the FOX block over NBC. They didn't really get Seinfeld. They still don't. The other side of the fam adores it, though.

I'd still probably pick the Martin/Living Single lineup, then flip over to NBC. Friends always seemed like a cookie cutter take on Seinfeld that had like the opposite philosophy of Seinfeld. Bizarro Seinfeld.

The thing that gets lost in discussions of the history of Seinfeld is it really didn't deserve to do great in the ratings those first two seasons. It started rough. Literally the show about nothing. It wasn't until they figured out that the secret sauce was giving each of the 4 main characters their own individual story and then have all the arcs interplay at the end. Probably the most influential moment in modern sitcom history, along with Mary Tyler Moore's emphasis on seconday characters in the first place.

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Weren't they talking about a Martin reboot at some point?

Martin's clearly so medicated now that so wouldn't work. The manic borderline-dangerous bipolar energy he had in the early 90s was the whole hook of the show. He was quite literally so-crazay. Show still holds up as a result.. maybe even better.

What about Wonder Years we bring back adult Fred Savage Kevin Arnold and Danica McKellar Winnie Cooper, give them some some teens and have like, one be recently divorced and the other maybe in a rocky marriage or separated, they both coincidentilly happen to move back to their old town like down the street and we renew the "will they/won't they" along with their trials as single/primary parents raising their own kids.

They'd have to math but it would probably take place in the 90s then?

Bring back Dan Lauria and you can CGI-deageify some of Kevin reminiscing of his dad, he actually still looks pretty similar or looked good in The Spirit anyway.

ooh OOOH and we can get Daniel Stern to still do the voice overs as like present-Kevin, same concept as before.... How I Met Your Mother really jacked that whole concept, didn't they?

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SPYZFAN1 said:

I guess you can say Picard season 3 is really Stat Trek The Next Generation

WhisperingDandelions said:

What about Wonder Years we bring back adult Fred Savage Kevin Arnold and Danica McKellar Winnie Cooper, give them some some teens and have like, one be recently divorced and the other maybe in a rocky marriage or separated, they both coincidentilly happen to move back to their old town like down the street and we renew the "will they/won't they" along with their trials as single/primary parents raising their own kids.

They'd have to math but it would probably take place in the 90s then?

Bring back Dan Lauria and you can CGI-deageify some of Kevin reminiscing of his dad, he actually still looks pretty similar or looked good in The Spirit anyway.

ooh OOOH and we can get Daniel Stern to still do the voice overs as like present-Kevin, same concept as before.... How I Met Your Mother really jacked that whole concept, didn't they?

[Edited 7/13/23 22:17pm]

Are you living in a cabin in the woodsey mountains???

"The Wonder Years" is definately rebooted as is "How I Met Your Father".

nayroo2002 said:

Are you living in a cabin in the woodsey mountains???

"The Wonder Years" is definately rebooted as is "How I Met Your Father".

c'mon bruh, that's a completely different show that just jacked The Wonder Years title. It has no relation to the original.... does that take place during the 60s, too? At least have the family living down the street from Kevin or moving into Kevin's old house or something.

It's basically if Freaks & Geeks called itself The Wonder Years.

or like how every trash sci fi anthology show has to have the name The Twilight Zone every other decade when the only version that any generation cares about is the 50s Rod Serling version.

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