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Reply #90 posted 02/26/23 2:56am

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uPtoWnNY said:

WB's Monsterverse films are love letters to lonetime Toho kaiju fans like myself who grew up watching these on Saturday mornings. I love how they gave the classic designs a "modern" look. The producers did Toho's "Big 5" (Godzilla, Rodan, Mothra, King Ghidorah, Mecha-Godzilla) justice. Rodan looked as menacing as he did in his original 1956 film. Legendary Kong is definitely a throwback to the 1933 original, an ape monster instead of a giant gorilla (like the 2005 version).

Don't get me started on that piece of shit from TriStar in 1998. That was Godzilla in name only.

For GvK2, I'd love to see both monsters face off against Mecha-King Ghidorah or Destroyah.

[Edited 2/25/23 18:22pm]

1933, yeah I mistyped, meant 30s. That was the best one.

2000s version was just "Zilla", right? 2014 Godzilla, interesting, will have to find it str3aming.

[Edited 2/26/23 2:59am]

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Reply #91 posted 02/26/23 3:00am

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You can just call me Hannah. I've seen clips of the old Adam West show but I don't remember ever watching any complete episodes. But I'm familiar with the memes.

c'mon shelly, c'mon.


What about Kick-Ass?

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Reply #92 posted 02/26/23 6:10am

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WhisperingDandelions said:

uPtoWnNY said:

WB's Monsterverse films are love letters to lonetime Toho kaiju fans like myself who grew up watching these on Saturday mornings. I love how they gave the classic designs a "modern" look. The producers did Toho's "Big 5" (Godzilla, Rodan, Mothra, King Ghidorah, Mecha-Godzilla) justice. Rodan looked as menacing as he did in his original 1956 film. Legendary Kong is definitely a throwback to the 1933 original, an ape monster instead of a giant gorilla (like the 2005 version).

Don't get me started on that piece of shit from TriStar in 1998. That was Godzilla in name only.

For GvK2, I'd love to see both monsters face off against Mecha-King Ghidorah or Destroyah.

[Edited 2/25/23 18:22pm]

1933, yeah I mistyped, meant 30s. That was the best one.

2000s version was just "Zilla", right? 2014 Godzilla, interesting, will have to find it str3aming.

[Edited 2/26/23 2:59am]

No, TriStar's fake 1998 version was referred to as 'zilla by us hardcore fans.

I'd love to see Legendary remake 1966's "War of the Gargantuas". That was one of Toho's best non-Godzilla monster films.

(Japan) Different Godzilla film eras;

Showa (1954-1975)

Heisei (1984-1995)

Millennium (1999-2004)

Reiwa (2016-present)

(U.S.) Legendary (2014 -present)

[Edited 2/26/23 6:32am]

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Reply #93 posted 02/26/23 10:47am

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WhisperingDandelions said:



ShellyMcG said:


You can just call me Hannah. I've seen clips of the old Adam West show but I don't remember ever watching any complete episodes. But I'm familiar with the memes.

c'mon shelly, c'mon.



What about Kick-Ass?



I wish there was a way to change your username on here lol . I chose this one as a joke, thinking I could just change it later. Now I'm stuck with it.

I've never seen Kick Ass.
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Reply #94 posted 02/26/23 10:49am

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uPtoWnNY said:



WhisperingDandelions said:




uPtoWnNY said:


WB's Monsterverse films are love letters to lonetime Toho kaiju fans like myself who grew up watching these on Saturday mornings. I love how they gave the classic designs a "modern" look. The producers did Toho's "Big 5" (Godzilla, Rodan, Mothra, King Ghidorah, Mecha-Godzilla) justice. Rodan looked as menacing as he did in his original 1956 film. Legendary Kong is definitely a throwback to the 1933 original, an ape monster instead of a giant gorilla (like the 2005 version).



Don't get me started on that piece of shit from TriStar in 1998. That was Godzilla in name only.



For GvK2, I'd love to see both monsters face off against Mecha-King Ghidorah or Destroyah.


[Edited 2/25/23 18:22pm]



1933, yeah I mistyped, meant 30s. That was the best one.

2000s version was just "Zilla", right? 2014 Godzilla, interesting, will have to find it str3aming.


[Edited 2/26/23 2:59am]




No, TriStar's fake 1998 version was referred to as 'zilla by us hardcore fans.



I'd love to see Legendary remake 1966's "War of the Gargantuas". That was one of Toho's best non-Godzilla monster films.



(Japan) Different Godzilla film eras;


Showa (1954-1975)


Heisei (1984-1995)


Millennium (1999-2004)


Reiwa (2016-present)



(U.S.) Legendary (2014 -present)

[Edited 2/26/23 6:32am]



I liked the 90s movie. It was really bad but in an enjoyable sort of way.
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Reply #95 posted 02/26/23 1:10pm

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WhisperingDandelions said:

uPtoWnNY said:

WB's recent "Monsterverse" was well done...Godzilla, Kong on Skull Island, Godzilla KOTM, Godzilla vs Kong, and I hear GvK2 is in the works.

Was Dracula supposed to be a part of this or was that another universe? Dracula: Origins was that the movie from a little while ago?

kpowers said:

The King Kong movies were better than the Godzilla movies. Godzilla vs Kong was a disappointment

Have not checked out the new Vs. movies, which King Kong movies? The 2005 Jack Black/Peter Jackson? 70s? 50s original?

Well every King Kong movie I saw I liked including King Kong 1976 and The 2005 Jack Black/Peter Jackson. Haven't seen the 1933 version, heard it's good, though King Kong is clay animation (I think that's what it's called. Haven't seen the 1986 King Kong lives. All the recent King Kong movies were good popcorn For Godzilla movies I like all those 1950's/60's Japanese movies better. Also like the Godzilla cartoon from the 1970's

Watch Godzilla: The Original Animated Series Season 1 | Prime Video

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Reply #96 posted 02/26/23 6:41pm

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I've never seen Kick Ass.

oh c'mon Shelly, no wonder.


The only reason Chloe Grace-Mortez has sustaining relevency. It's from 2010 so a little more modern. Nice fun, comedic tone but with serious moments, great style balance, great story concept. MCU / Flashpoint is probably going for this kinda tone yet no ceegar. It's definitely R-rated, more so in extreme depictions of violence whatever, so it hits another fan-boy check mark. And it's original, you know, in the sense that it's a post-superhero movie boom "modern" superhero story, based on a more recent comic though.


Check out the trailer. I normally hate trailers but this is kinda solid:

https://www.youtube.com/w...rpXHqnGDXo


Definitely preview before as a Mom or whatever, though... Shelly?.... c'mon.

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Reply #97 posted 02/26/23 10:15pm

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WhisperingDandelions said:

Have not checked out the new Vs. movies, which King Kong movies? The 2005 Jack Black/Peter Jackson? 70s? 50s original?

Well every King Kong movie I saw I liked including King Kong 1976 and The 2005 Jack Black/Peter Jackson. Haven't seen the 1933 version, heard it's good, though King Kong is clay animation (I think that's what it's called. Haven't seen the 1986 King Kong lives. All the recent King Kong movies were good popcorn For Godzilla movies I like all those 1950's/60's Japanese movies better. Also like the Godzilla cartoon from the 1970's

Watch Godzilla: The Original Animated Series Season 1 | Prime Video

To this day, the best Godzilla movie is still the original 1954 Japanese version, not the butchered, watered-down U.S. version with Raymond Burr. As for G-sequels, my favorite is 1964's Mothra vs Godzilla.

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Reply #98 posted 02/27/23 12:34am

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WhisperingDandelions said:



ShellyMcG said:


I've never seen Kick Ass.

oh c'mon Shelly, no wonder.



The only reason Chloe Grace-Mortez has sustaining relevency. It's from 2010 so a little more modern. Nice fun, comedic tone but with serious moments, great style balance, great story concept. MCU / Flashpoint is probably going for this kinda tone yet no ceegar. It's definitely R-rated, more so in extreme depictions of violence whatever, so it hits another fan-boy check mark. And it's original, you know, in the sense that it's a post-superhero movie boom "modern" superhero story, based on a more recent comic though.



Check out the trailer. I normally hate trailers but this is kinda solid:


https://www.youtube.com/w...rpXHqnGDXo



Definitely preview before as a Mom or whatever, though... Shelly?.... c'mon.



I don't get that reference you keep making.
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Reply #99 posted 02/28/23 4:46pm

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I don't get that reference you keep making.

Problem? I cited the source directly. Not only that, it's literally the first result if you type "c'mon Shelly" in YouTube.


https://www.youtube.com/w...TXbL-JTTMM


Been like 25 years, I'll go ahead and thank you personally for the re-discovery right now, I'm officially re-obsessed. This bit aged like fine wine. Or fine wine ages like this bit. RIP MadTV, sketch comedy GOAT.

[Edited 2/28/23 16:50pm]

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Reply #100 posted 03/01/23 4:46am

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WhisperingDandelions said:



ShellyMcG said:


I don't get that reference you keep making.

Problem? I cited the source directly. Not only that, it's literally the first result if you type "c'mon Shelly" in YouTube.



https://www.youtube.com/w...TXbL-JTTMM



Been like 25 years, I'll go ahead and thank you personally for the re-discovery right now, I'm officially re-obsessed. This bit aged like fine wine. Or fine wine ages like this bit. RIP MadTV, sketch comedy GOAT.

[Edited 2/28/23 16:50pm]



Do you genuinely think this sketch is funny?
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Reply #101 posted 03/01/23 5:51pm

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ShellyMcG said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

Problem? I cited the source directly. Not only that, it's literally the first result if you type "c'mon Shelly" in YouTube.


https://www.youtube.com/w...TXbL-JTTMM


Been like 25 years, I'll go ahead and thank you personally for the re-discovery right now, I'm officially re-obsessed. This bit aged like fine wine. Or fine wine ages like this bit. RIP MadTV, sketch comedy GOAT.

[Edited 2/28/23 16:50pm]

Do you genuinely think this sketch is funny?

Genuinely.


It works on pure elementary school repetitious/hook elements that somehow still garners modern SNL an audience doing the same friggin' bits until they're ran into the ground. "Well isn't that special," "Party down, excellent," "Jane, you ignorant slut" etc. only here the hook actually enhances story/characterization instead of garnering cheap audience pops at intonation.


But conceptually/satirically it's a pretty taut parody/roast of self-absorbed Hollywood big shots. The constant egotistical "problem?" rhetorical inquiries, obsession with multitasking, laughing at their own unfunny jokes, lack of awareness/social empathy, fad diets, treatment of subordinates, etc.

Humor also enhanced by tepid audience reaction. Parody is direct and makes the audience uncomfortable, the best kind of comedy. Always love an adroitly unlikeable protagonist, top shelf heel work.... However, at the present date society is kind of fed up with that concept/figure after political blahblahblah, so it probably would likely annoy/irritate gen-Z audiences thiristin' for a more lightness and positivity in their lulz, which for me is a walking contradiction and as unfunny as the last decade+ of meme Carrot Top-esque prop-comedy and copypasta madlibs. But to each their own.

[Edited 3/1/23 18:03pm]

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Reply #102 posted 03/02/23 12:49am

ShellyMcG

WhisperingDandelions said:



ShellyMcG said:


WhisperingDandelions said:


Problem? I cited the source directly. Not only that, it's literally the first result if you type "c'mon Shelly" in YouTube.



https://www.youtube.com/w...TXbL-JTTMM



Been like 25 years, I'll go ahead and thank you personally for the re-discovery right now, I'm officially re-obsessed. This bit aged like fine wine. Or fine wine ages like this bit. RIP MadTV, sketch comedy GOAT.


[Edited 2/28/23 16:50pm]



Do you genuinely think this sketch is funny?

Genuinely.



It works on pure elementary school repetitious/hook elements that somehow still garners modern SNL an audience doing the same friggin' bits until they're ran into the ground. "Well isn't that special," "Party down, excellent," "Jane, you ignorant slut" etc. only here the hook actually enhances story/characterization instead of garnering cheap audience pops at intonation.



But conceptually/satirically it's a pretty taut parody/roast of self-absorbed Hollywood big shots. The constant egotistical "problem?" rhetorical inquiries, obsession with multitasking, laughing at their own unfunny jokes, lack of awareness/social empathy, fad diets, treatment of subordinates, etc.

Humor also enhanced by tepid audience reaction. Parody is direct and makes the audience uncomfortable, the best kind of comedy. Always love an adroitly unlikeable protagonist, top shelf heel work.... However, at the present date society is kind of fed up with that concept/figure after political blahblahblah, so it probably would likely annoy/irritate gen-Z audiences thiristin' for a more lightness and positivity in their lulz, which for me is a walking contradiction and as unfunny as the last decade+ of meme Carrot Top-esque prop-comedy and copypasta madlibs. But to each their own.

[Edited 3/1/23 18:03pm]



It's too over the top for me. I remember an interview I seen with Gene Wilder where he was talking about comedy and I think he hit the nail on the head as far as the comedy I like goes. He said that the straighter the comedian plays it, the funnier it is. If you get a sense that the actor saying the lines truly believes 100% in what he's saying that it's much funnier than if the were jumping up and down and making faces at the camera and that kind of thing. It's why Leslie Nielsen in The Naked Gun is far funnier than anything Kevin Hart, Will Ferrell or Adam Sandler will ever do. They're too loud and obnoxious to be funny. Unless, of course, you find loud and obnoxious to be funny. But I don't.
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Reply #103 posted 03/04/23 8:56am

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ShellyMcG said:

uPtoWnNY said:

No, TriStar's fake 1998 version was referred to as 'zilla by us hardcore fans.

I'd love to see Legendary remake 1966's "War of the Gargantuas". That was one of Toho's best non-Godzilla monster films.

(Japan) Different Godzilla film eras;

Showa (1954-1975)

Heisei (1984-1995)

Millennium (1999-2004)

Reiwa (2016-present)

(U.S.) Legendary (2014 -present)

[Edited 2/26/23 6:32am]

I liked the 90s movie. It was really bad but in an enjoyable sort of way.

That 1998 P.O.S. from TriStar is sacrilege to us hardcore Godzilla fans. mad mad mad

Emmerich & Devlin did to Godzilla what Joel Schumacher did to Batman.

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Reply #104 posted 03/04/23 10:00am

ShellyMcG

uPtoWnNY said:



ShellyMcG said:


uPtoWnNY said:



No, TriStar's fake 1998 version was referred to as 'zilla by us hardcore fans.



I'd love to see Legendary remake 1966's "War of the Gargantuas". That was one of Toho's best non-Godzilla monster films.



(Japan) Different Godzilla film eras;


Showa (1954-1975)


Heisei (1984-1995)


Millennium (1999-2004)


Reiwa (2016-present)



(U.S.) Legendary (2014 -present)


[Edited 2/26/23 6:32am]



I liked the 90s movie. It was really bad but in an enjoyable sort of way.


That 1998 P.O.S. from TriStar is sacrilege to us hardcore Godzilla fans. mad mad mad



Emmerich & Devlin did to Godzilla what Joel Schumacher did to Batman.



I can understand that. I kind of put Godzilla and Batman Forever in the same category of "shit but weirdly enjoyable 90s action movies". I've never seen any of the really old Godzilla movies though. And I've never been a huge Batman fan so that's probably why I can enjoy those movies for what they are.

I should actually watch those old Godzilla and Kong movies though.
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Reply #105 posted 03/04/23 7:04pm

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ShellyMcG said:

uPtoWnNY said:

That 1998 P.O.S. from TriStar is sacrilege to us hardcore Godzilla fans. mad mad mad

Emmerich & Devlin did to Godzilla what Joel Schumacher did to Batman.

I can understand that. I kind of put Godzilla and Batman Forever in the same category of "shit but weirdly enjoyable 90s action movies". I've never seen any of the really old Godzilla movies though. And I've never been a huge Batman fan so that's probably why I can enjoy those movies for what they are. I should actually watch those old Godzilla and Kong movies though.

The 1954 Japanese original is still the best Godzilla movie (way better than the watered-down 1956 U.S. version w/ Raymond Burr). As for sequels, my favorite has always been 1964's 'Mothra vs Godzilla'.

As for Kong, nothing tops the 1933 original.

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Reply #106 posted 03/11/23 10:19pm

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WhisperingDandelions said:



ShellyMcG said:


Call me crazy, but I get the sense that you don't think this is going to be any good razz The nostalgia stuff doesn't work on me because I have no particularly great love for any version of Batman but I think this looks like a decent movie. Even if Keaton wasn't in it, I'm intrigued by DC's take on that No Way Home story. General Zod is back from Man Of Steel too and I thought he was one of the best things about that movie. Supergirl looks great too. Am I expecting this movie to be amazing? Absolutely not. But like I said earlier in the thread, a superhero movie need only he entertaining for me to consider it worth my time and this looks like a good night out at the cinema to me. If it proves popular with the fans of the old Batman movies and DC decide to capitalise on that, then I don't see that as a bad thing either. It's just more options. The old fans will have that, the younger fans will have the Brave And The Bold movie to look forward to and the "edgy" teen crowd will have more Pattinson movies. Everyone wins. I mean sure, having 3 separate Batman franchises on the go at the same time could get confusing and would prove once and for all that Hollywood has truly run out of any creative ideas, but if it keeps fans entertained then I'd argue that WB would be doing a better job doing that than they have for the past 15 years or so.

eh again it's like pro wrestling to me.

Keeping the fans that will support the product no matter what "entertained" is an extremely low bar to aspire to. They should be seeking to entertain and grasp people that aren't already DC nuts and Batman nerds or people who see every comic book movie released regardless. You know, movies for everyone, or as they used to be called: movies.

This is again why the Nolan and Shyamalan superhero films are just inherently superior, their stories appeal to people who just like plain good movies with good story, not people who's theater experience is positively correlated with amount of muscleheads on the screen flying around in their underoos.



And given these studios ultimately want everyone's $ they need to quit reaching for the low-hanging fruit and present something everyone can enjoy. This is why Flashpoint will do better than other recent DC projects, it's at least got something to appeal to the lapsed fan. And that's easy, reaching everyone else is far more difficult.

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That's just it though. I can't speak for anyone else but I'm not a DC nut or a Batman nerd. Far from it. I've seen less than half of the MCU movies and only like 3 of the DCEU movies. And even then, I didn't watch most of those by choice. But I will likely go see The Flash. Not because Michael Keaton is in it and definitely not because I'm already invested in the overarching DCEU story, if there is one. I just think it looks like a fun movie. It will probably end up being terrible but the trailer has convinced me to give it a go.



Well the flash has the highest test audience scores well into the high 80 percentages. Movies rarely ever get that high of rating; Let alone a superhero movie.
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