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Official Winter Book Reading Thread

I can't find the past thread, and maybe it's locked at this point.

Let's not spoil novels from the past year that some may not have read.

While my recent read is more than a year old, I won't spoil it just in case other's haven't read it yet.

I just finished The Goldfinch by Donna Tartt. I found the book an interesting story of Theo Decker. It's linear, which I appreciate, rather than jumping around. I found the ending a bit of a let down with no real resolution for anyone (at least, to me, maybe I'm missing something).

I think it was Empress or someone who said Tartt's writing was quirky. It wasn't so much quirky, for me, as it was just blathering on at times. Long multi-page monologues, unrealistic to how people really talk. And while there is a window of suspended reality for those things, this went well beyond watching late-20s actors playing teenagers in Grease.

In general, I did love the story and Theo's journey. The twist with Boris that set him on a whole new path to another country was unexpected. I've not read Tartt's other books, but this one isn't a bad introduction to her writings.

Up next, for me, is This Much is True by Miriam Margolyes. I need something lighter, reality-based, and polar opposite of the Barbours, the Deckers, or Xandra...with an X.

PS I watched, because apparently I'm a glutton for punishment and disappointment in movies, The Goldfinch movie. What a wasted 2.5 hours of cinema. All the characters were left one-dimensional, the flashing forward and backward never made sense as to what time was real and what was a flashback or flashforward. Even the blood on his shirt cuff was never really explained (although we probably know why), nor was his self-imposed torture in the hotel room. And why lay out all the pills and booze? We never saw him die nor even had an indication that he did die.

The book should've been made into a mini-series. Hulu or Prime could've picked this up and put it out over six or seven episodes, and it would've been spectacular. There's just so much source material and nuances that could've been captured on film. I fear that there's no interest in it at all at this point to make such a big wish.

What are you reading this winter?

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #1 posted 12/20/21 5:15am

Empress

TrivialPursuit said:

I can't find the past thread, and maybe it's locked at this point.

Let's not spoil novels from the past year that some may not have read.

While my recent read is more than a year old, I won't spoil it just in case other's haven't read it yet.

I just finished The Goldfinch by Donna Tartt. I found the book an interesting story of Theo Decker. It's linear, which I appreciate, rather than jumping around. I found the ending a bit of a let down with no real resolution for anyone (at least, to me, maybe I'm missing something).

I think it was Empress or someone who said Tartt's writing was quirky. It wasn't so much quirky, for me, as it was just blathering on at times. Long multi-page monologues, unrealistic to how people really talk. And while there is a window of suspended reality for those things, this went well beyond watching late-20s actors playing teenagers in Grease.

In general, I did love the story and Theo's journey. The twist with Boris that set him on a whole new path to another country was unexpected. I've not read Tartt's other books, but this one isn't a bad introduction to her writings.

Up next, for me, is This Much is True by Miriam Margolyes. I need something lighter, reality-based, and polar opposite of the Barbours, the Deckers, or Xandra...with an X.

PS I watched, because apparently I'm a glutton for punishment and disappointment in movies, The Goldfinch movie. What a wasted 2.5 hours of cinema. All the characters were left one-dimensional, the flashing forward and backward never made sense as to what time was real and what was a flashback or flashforward. Even the blood on his shirt cuff was never really explained (although we probably know why), nor was his self-imposed torture in the hotel room. And why lay out all the pills and booze? We never saw him die nor even had an indication that he did die.

The book should've been made into a mini-series. Hulu or Prime could've picked this up and put it out over six or seven episodes, and it would've been spectacular. There's just so much source material and nuances that could've been captured on film. I fear that there's no interest in it at all at this point to make such a big wish.

What are you reading this winter?

I also found The Goldfinch to be very long and a lot of blathering at times, but I was so drawn in to Theo's story, his relationship with Boris and everything else going on in this story. I particularly enjoyed the relationships Theo had with other characters in the book too. Donna Tartt has written only 3 books and all are very quirky and don't always leave you with a sense of completion or believeability, but she's such a good writer and I can't wait to read her next novel.

I'm about to start Harlem Nights from Colson Whitehead. I've read a few of this books and he never disappoints.

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Reply #2 posted 12/20/21 8:09am

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Will
The Bomber Mafia
The Body Keeps The Score
Midnight In Washington
Prince Lestat
Finding Soul on the Psth of Orisa
Time keeps on slipping into the future...


This moment is all there is...
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Reply #3 posted 12/20/21 9:05am

Empress

I will also be reading Diana Gabaldon's Go Tell The Bees That I Am Gone - the 9th book in the Outlander series. I've been reading this series for over 25 years and have been patiently waiting about 6 years for this next installment to be released. Also, Velvet Was the Night by Silvia Moreno-Garcia. I really enjoy her books.

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Reply #4 posted 12/20/21 4:27pm

EmmaMcG

I plan on reading Nothing Lasts Forever by Roderick Thorpe on Christmas Eve when the kids have gone to bed. It's fairly short so I should be able to get through it in one go. For anyone who doesn't know, it's the book that Die Hard was based on. I've never read it before so I'm looking forward to it.
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Reply #5 posted 12/26/21 11:01am

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I just happened to be in my local independent bookstore to discover there was a promo from the Bill Gates' foundation that bought his 5 recommendations, sent them to a bunch of independent book stores, to give away for free! I was the 100th person out of 100 free book stacks. So these are on my Winter Reading List: http://gatesnotes.com/Abo...Books-2021

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So far I've read Hamnet by Maggie O'Farrell, and would recommend it.

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I've also been reading Alan Davis' Jerusalem. I'm 200 pages into this monster, and so far it is so, so dry. Would not recommend.

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I just finished Ijeoma Olou's Mediocre, non-fiction - I would definitely recommend. I usually have 3 books in progress, so my current non-fiction book is Thomas Sowell's A Conflict of Visions. A nice conservative balance to my usual reading.

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Reply #6 posted 12/26/21 12:14pm

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I'm reading The Conquest of the Incas by John Hemming, which is exactly about what the title suggests: the conquest of the Inca empire by the Spanish conquistadores. The book is from 1970, which means it's older than I am, but it's still the definitive history. And it brings me back to when I visited Peru myself.
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Reply #7 posted 12/26/21 1:23pm

IanRG

Not really reading but working through, but it is not Winter in Australia anyway:

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Burmese: A Cultural Approach. This is co written by a friend of mine in Mandalay, Myanmar, Allen Lynn and Ward Keeler, and

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Burmese: A Comprehensive Grammar by San San Hnin Tun and Mathias Jenny

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Bot because I am working on basic grammar tools for learning Burmese.

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Reply #8 posted 12/26/21 1:40pm

Empress

MarkThrust said:

I just happened to be in my local independent bookstore to discover there was a promo from the Bill Gates' foundation that bought his 5 recommendations, sent them to a bunch of independent book stores, to give away for free! I was the 100th person out of 100 free book stacks. So these are on my Winter Reading List: http://gatesnotes.com/Abo...Books-2021



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So far I've read Hamnet by Maggie O'Farrell, and would recommend it.


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I've also been reading Alan Davis' Jerusalem. I'm 200 pages into this monster, and so far it is so, so dry. Would not recommend.


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I just finished Ijeoma Olou's Mediocre, non-fiction - I would definitely recommend. I usually have 3 books in progress, so my current non-fiction book is Thomas Sowell's A Conflict of Visions. A nice conservative balance to my usual reading.




Thanks for mentioning Hamnet, it's on my reading list too. The reviews are very good but I don't know anyone that's read it.
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Reply #9 posted 12/26/21 1:44pm

RichardS

Vanishing New York by Jeremiah Moss - decent critique of hyper-gentrification, but tends to repeat the same points over and over, so I'm struggling to get through all 400+ pages.

Duck Soup by J Hoberman. Again, quite decent. A slim volume, somewhat academic in nature. Doesn't really add anything new to what is already known about the film, but at least it doesn't do it fairly quickly.

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Reply #10 posted 12/26/21 2:17pm

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IanRG said:

Not really reading but working through, but it is not Winter in Australia anyway:


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Burmese: A Cultural Approach. This is co written by a friend of mine in Mandalay, Myanmar, Allen Lynn and Ward Keeler, and


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Burmese: A Comprehensive Grammar by San San Hnin Tun and Mathias Jenny


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Bot because I am working on basic grammar tools for learning Burmese.


Are you planning to go there?
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Reply #11 posted 12/26/21 2:35pm

IanRG

SantanaMaitreya said:

IanRG said:

Not really reading but working through, but it is not Winter in Australia anyway:

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Burmese: A Cultural Approach. This is co written by a friend of mine in Mandalay, Myanmar, Allen Lynn and Ward Keeler, and

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Burmese: A Comprehensive Grammar by San San Hnin Tun and Mathias Jenny

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Bot because I am working on basic grammar tools for learning Burmese.

Are you planning to go there?

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Not currently with Covid and the Coup.

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I have been there a number of times, most recently January/February 2020 - For the flight and layover on Bangkok, we were masked up, temperature checked and fortunately got back to Australia before the 2 week quarantines. When we were at Manadalay University, two busloads of Chinese tourists arrived at our hotel and it was only then that masks were worn within Myanmar. I am in constant contact with family and friends there.

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Reply #12 posted 12/27/21 12:15am

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I see. And then it makes sense to learn the language.
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Reply #13 posted 12/27/21 8:23am

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Only non fiction babee.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #14 posted 12/27/21 2:10pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Only non fiction babee.

Now how hard is it to list what you're reading? smile

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Reply #15 posted 12/27/21 5:20pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Only non fiction babee.


It's all books, bruh.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #16 posted 12/28/21 2:50am

EmmaMcG

Serious question, do visual novels count? 99% of them are pervy nonsense but sometimes you come across one that is better written than most books that are considered to be classics.
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Reply #17 posted 12/28/21 3:52am

IanRG

EmmaMcG said:

Serious question, do visual novels count? 99% of them are pervy nonsense but sometimes you come across one that is better written than most books that are considered to be classics.

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With classics like "Watchmen", "The Sandman" series, "Maus" and "Persepolis", I don't see why not.

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There are others like "They called us enemy", the "Fullmetal Alchemist" series and the "Death Note" series. The last one was much better than the TV series "Dexter".

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Reply #18 posted 12/28/21 6:20am

EmmaMcG

IanRG said:



EmmaMcG said:


Serious question, do visual novels count? 99% of them are pervy nonsense but sometimes you come across one that is better written than most books that are considered to be classics.

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With classics like "Watchmen", "The Sandman" series, "Maus" and "Persepolis", I don't see why not.


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There are others like "They called us enemy", the "Fullmetal Alchemist" series and the "Death Note" series. The last one was much better than the TV series "Dexter".



Just to be clear, when I say visual novel, I'm not talking about graphic novels or comic books. I'm referring to actual visual novels like The House In Fata Morgana or the Zero Escape series.
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Reply #19 posted 12/28/21 12:41pm

IanRG

EmmaMcG said:

IanRG said:

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With classics like "Watchmen", "The Sandman" series, "Maus" and "Persepolis", I don't see why not.

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There are others like "They called us enemy", the "Fullmetal Alchemist" series and the "Death Note" series. The last one was much better than the TV series "Dexter".

Just to be clear, when I say visual novel, I'm not talking about graphic novels or comic books. I'm referring to actual visual novels like The House In Fata Morgana or the Zero Escape series.

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That clarifies the comment about visual novels tending to be "pervy nonsense", but I don't see why either could not be considered winter reading books.

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Reply #20 posted 12/28/21 12:44pm

EmmaMcG

IanRG said:



EmmaMcG said:


IanRG said:


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With classics like "Watchmen", "The Sandman" series, "Maus" and "Persepolis", I don't see why not.


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There are others like "They called us enemy", the "Fullmetal Alchemist" series and the "Death Note" series. The last one was much better than the TV series "Dexter".



Just to be clear, when I say visual novel, I'm not talking about graphic novels or comic books. I'm referring to actual visual novels like The House In Fata Morgana or the Zero Escape series.

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That clarifies the comment about visual novels tending to be "pervy nonsense", but I don't see why either could not be considered winter reading books.



Because you can read them... in winter? Like any other book.
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Reply #21 posted 12/28/21 1:34pm

IanRG

EmmaMcG said:

IanRG said:

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That clarifies the comment about visual novels tending to be "pervy nonsense", but I don't see why either could not be considered winter reading books.

Because you can read them... in winter? Like any other book.

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Exactly

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Reply #22 posted 12/28/21 2:35pm

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Will
The Bomber Mafia
The Body Keeps The Score
Midnight In Washington
Prince Lestat
Finding Soul on the Psth of Orisa

I wish Anne were still alive so I could tweet her and ask why she was creating a long list of ancient vampires. Good lawd, this is like a frikkin roll call.
Time keeps on slipping into the future...


This moment is all there is...
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Reply #23 posted 12/28/21 4:08pm

IanRG

onlyforaminute said:

onlyforaminute said:
Will The Bomber Mafia The Body Keeps The Score Midnight In Washington Prince Lestat Finding Soul on the Psth of Orisa
I wish Anne were still alive so I could tweet her and ask why she was creating a long list of ancient vampires. Good lawd, this is like a frikkin roll call.

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If ever there was a person who could answer after their death Anne would be one.

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Reply #24 posted 12/28/21 4:08pm

EmmaMcG

IanRG said:



EmmaMcG said:


IanRG said:


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That clarifies the comment about visual novels tending to be "pervy nonsense", but I don't see why either could not be considered winter reading books.



Because you can read them... in winter? Like any other book.

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Exactly



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Reply #25 posted 12/28/21 4:51pm

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EmmaMcG said:

Serious question, do visual novels count? 99% of them are pervy nonsense but sometimes you come across one that is better written than most books that are considered to be classics.


No hard & fast rules on that, babes. If you're reading, you're reading.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #26 posted 12/29/21 4:05am

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I’ll try to focus on reading A Course In Miracles by Helen Schucman. Hell, some of it at the very least, it’s a hard read for me but an important one.

I’ve been reading Mark Nepo’s The Book of Awakening for the whole entire past year and I only have two entries to finish left, you’re supposed to read each entry per day, like a journal, even better if you go back & reread those entries you read that day, which explain my reading’s long time span of the book.
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