Part 1

Tonight's show was bombastic! And spoilers below.

I'm more solid than ever that:

Skunk: Faith Evans

Bull: Todrick Hall
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I think I had started to think that Jester was Johnny Rotten aka John Lydon. Not suer why, but the clue about his wife being sick... looked that up on Wiki, and sure enough, he's been married since 1979, and his wife has Alzheimers.

I'm sorta glad Pepper is gone, but I had no idea it was Natasha Bedingfield. I don't know her voice or music enough to have guess that. But some of the clues really threw me for a loop!

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Wow would have never guess Johnny Rotten. My only guess was Ozzy, mostly being married for a long time.

Why are you glad to see pepper leave? Natasha Bedingfield, yeah never would have guessed that. Only know that song "Unwritten" which was like over 20 years ago? I'm like you I don't really know her that well. She still recording??

Well we had 2 Brits on tonight show

Skunk was trying to act older again

Is there a group C ?

kpowers said:

Skunk was trying to act older again

She's a Gen Xer. She's 48 years old. I don't know what you define as "old," but she's acting her age.

kpowers said:

Is there a group C ?

Yeah, there'll be a Group C, I believe. Last time they sorta bounced between A and B, whittled them down, then laid into Group C.

TrivialPursuit said:

kpowers said:

Is there a group C ?

Yeah, there'll be a Group C, I believe. Last time they sorta bounced between A and B, whittled them down, then laid into Group C.

That gives group c a better chance of winning, not fair. They should just do it group A then B then C. Pepper would have lasted longer, maybe even winning if they did it that way.

TrivialPursuit said:

kpowers said:

Skunk was trying to act older again

She's a Gen Xer. She's 48 years old. I don't know what you define as "old," but she's acting her age.

Her perormance 2 appearances ago she sounded like a "Gen Xer. She's 48 years old" a "Faith Evans" but the other performance she is trying hard to act more like a singer from the 60's/70's/80's era.

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I'm sorta glad Pepper is gone, but I had no idea it was Natasha Bedingfield. I don't know her voice or music enough to have guess that. But some of the clues really threw me for a loop!

Why???????

kpowers said:

I'm sorta glad Pepper is gone, but I had no idea it was Natasha Bedingfield. I don't know her voice or music enough to have guess that. But some of the clues really threw me for a loop!

Why???????

Ultimately, she wasn't that appealing to me. It's not that she's not a good singer, but other people on the show keep me more interested.

I kinda think there may not be a Group C this season, since the button was retired for the season. The button was only good once per Group.

I am sticking with:

Queen of Hearts: Kelly Pickler

BUT ... I'm not totally sure that it's Foster/McPhee behind Banana Split. The banana just doesn't move like an older man, and they sorta said they weren't pop stars. But yet have 84 noms between them?!?! I don't get it. I'm so confused.

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I was (thankfully) right about Mallard. That one sorta just revealed itself. But Caterpillar wasn't a solid until the call center thing and being estranged from a family member or something. Tonight's clues solidified it. Man, I wish I'd put money down on this season! haha

Yup you were right. I don't think there is a group C. They did have a lot of wild cards this season so maybe that's the reason why.

kpowers said:

Yup you were right. I don't think there is a group C. They did have a lot of wild cards this season so maybe that's the reason why.

That's a good theory, and likely true.

Repeat

Yeah, I didn't expect a show this week, although if they'd done another karaoke show, I'd not have been surprised.

Well, so far we were right about Skunk being Faith Evans.

The racing checkered flag was a HUGE give away that it's Todrick Hall. He's not only been a choreographer on RuPaul's Drag Race during singing or dance challenges, but he was also a full time judge last season, and guest judge in many other episodes.

The clue about Wizard of Oz or whatever is because he did a full on musical about Oz, wrote the music and everything and performed in it. It was a big deal at the time.

I'm more looking forward to Banana Split and Queen of Hearts. I'm rooting for Queen of Hearts.

TrivialPursuit said:

Well, so far we were right about Skunk being Faith Evans.

The racing checkered flag was a HUGE give away that it's Todrick Hall. He's not only been a choreographer on RuPaul's Drag Race during singing or dance challenges, but he was also a full time judge last season, and guest judge in many other episodes.

The clue about Wizard of Oz or whatever is because he did a full on musical about Oz, wrote the music and everything and performed in it. It was a big deal at the time.

I'm more looking forward to Banana Split and Queen of Hearts. I'm rooting for Queen of Hearts.

Next week looks interesting

kpowers said:

Next week looks interesting

I agree. Those two (or three) facing off is going to be really intense. Partly because we're really not that sure who anyone is!

TrivialPursuit said:

Well, so far we were right about Skunk being Faith Evans.

The racing checkered flag was a HUGE give away that it's Todrick Hall. He's not only been a choreographer on RuPaul's Drag Race during singing or dance challenges, but he was also a full time judge last season, and guest judge in many other episodes.

The clue about Wizard of Oz or whatever is because he did a full on musical about Oz, wrote the music and everything and performed in it. It was a big deal at the time.

I'm more looking forward to Banana Split and Queen of Hearts. I'm rooting for Queen of Hearts.

Just taking a moment in the show. That duet with Nicole and Queen of Hearts... WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW?!?!

Well, not a big surprise that Banana Split is David Foster and Katherine McPhee. I just don't know who else it could've been, but the Leona Lewis guess was good.

What a fun show!

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Well, not a big surprise that Banana Split is David Foster and Katherine McPhee. I just don't know who else it could've been, but the Leona Lewis guess was good.

What a fun show!

Yup almost the whole panel guess them

Do you still think Queen of heart is Kelly Pickler? If that is true then you have to former American idols in group B

kpowers said:

Do you still think Queen of heart is Kelly Pickler? If that is true then you have to former American idols in group B

I'm thrown by the being homeless thing. Jewel was homeless in Alaska. But the accent - damn, the accent is throwing me! The way she stands feels more Pickler. Jewel, I don't think, does the cute little stance like that.

It's entirely possible that an Idol could be on there. THe only other person I thought about, but wasn't homeless, was Jessica Simpson, mostly because of the accent. Also, Simpson has a bigger chest, and Queen of Hearts doesn't seem to be that endowed.

For now, I'm having to stick with Pickler, BUT man, if that's her, then her voice has much more range than I ever thought, especially with "Dream On" and the "La Vie en Rose" performances.

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kpowers said:

Do you still think Queen of heart is Kelly Pickler? If that is true then you have to former American idols in group B

I'm thrown by the being homeless thing. Jewel was homeless in Alaska. But the accent - damn, the accent is throwing me! The way she stands feels more Pickler. Jewel, I don't think, does the cute little stance like that.

It's entirely possible that an Idol could be on there. THe only other person I thought about, but wasn't homeless, was Jessica Simpson, mostly because of the accent. Also, Simpson has a bigger chest, and Queen of Hearts doesn't seem to be that endowed.

For now, I'm having to stick with Pickler, BUT man, if that's her, then her voice has much more range than I ever thought, especially with "Dream On" and the "La Vie en Rose" performances.

They could be using a fake accent. I'm leaning to Jewel. I don't think that voice belongs to Kelly Pickler.

kpowers said:

They could be using a fake accent. I'm leaning to Jewel. I don't think that voice belongs to Kelly Pickler.

Yeah, I think about Kelly Osbourne using a face accent. Although, her voice was obvious even through the vocal FX. Pickler is no more distinct than Carrie Underwood or Miranda Lambert in that sense. And it's one thing to fake a southern accent, it's another to really nail it. And the ways that she draws out some of her words or whatever feels more authentic than a fake accent situation.

Man, it's a stumper! Jewel really is a good theory though. For now, I'm doubling down on Pickler. Partly because I don't remember the press going in on Jewel for being stupid or simple (just bad teeth). But they did go there with Pickler - ironically partly because of her accent - but they did the same with Jessica Simpson after the Chicken of the Sea thing.

It's why both of those are great theories. Being from the south, I just think that accent is a bit too genuine. At least for now.

They are having a 2 hour season finale which I find very unnecessary. A 1 hour finale is more than enough. You know they are going to streeeeeeetch it out. Probably they are going to promote upcomg FOX shows through out the finale.

kpowers said:

They are having a 2 hour season finale which I find very unnecessary. A 1 hour finale is more than enough. You know they are going to streeeeeeetch it out. Probably they are going to promote upcomg FOX shows through out the finale.

It's a business. They may have two songs each, as well. Plus clue packages, final guesses, and unmasking of both. With commercials, it's about 90 minutes. It's an event!

I'm so stuck on Queen of Hearts. I waver, but still lean toward Pickler. Jewel better not fuck this up.

TrivialPursuit said:

kpowers said:

They are having a 2 hour season finale which I find very unnecessary. A 1 hour finale is more than enough. You know they are going to streeeeeeetch it out. Probably they are going to promote upcomg FOX shows through out the finale.

It's a business. They may have two songs each, as well. Plus clue packages, final guesses, and unmasking of both. With commercials, it's about 90 minutes. It's an event!

I'm so stuck on Queen of Hearts. I waver, but still lean toward Pickler. Jewel better not fuck this up.

Probably 15 min recap of the season as well

So three songs, including one holiday song. Seeing Queen of Hearts sing "Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas," I looked this up, and her voice is exactly the same. So, I'm going with Jewel.