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Reply #120 posted 04/28/03 11:20am

IceNine

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pejman said:

IceNine said:

LillianLaughs said:

Why not send that person an org note?


That person chose to send shitty orgnotes and then block me from replying... to be precise.



Even though I have never org. noted you or even knew that they can be blocked is there still a possibility that it's me? smile


It can be you if you get out there, start a couple of extra accounts and begin criticizing everyone who you believe is attractive or anyone who seems to be in a relationship... you could also decide to send orgnotes to people and then block them from replying as well.

In short, you could act like a person with extremely serious mental problems.

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Reply #121 posted 04/28/03 11:22am

Blackcat

Ice, you just pulling our legs, there is no such person.
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Reply #122 posted 04/28/03 11:25am

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Blackcat said:

Ice, you just pulling our legs, there is no such person.


There really is... but I will not say who they are. One can only hope that they will recognize that this is about them and rethink their approach to things.
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Reply #123 posted 04/28/03 11:28am

Serena

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I just cannot say...



I understand and enjoy your posts, so I wouldn't want to get you in trouble. But, I'm oh so curious...

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Reply #124 posted 04/28/03 11:30am

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IceNine said:

pejman said:

IceNine said:

LillianLaughs said:

Why not send that person an org note?


That person chose to send shitty orgnotes and then block me from replying... to be precise.



Even though I have never org. noted you or even knew that they can be blocked is there still a possibility that it's me? smile


It can be you if you get out there, start a couple of extra accounts and begin criticizing everyone who you believe is attractive or anyone who seems to be in a relationship... you could also decide to send orgnotes to people and then block them from replying as well.

In short, you could act like a person with extremely serious mental problems.

:LOL:



I'm capable... nuts but I will choose not... It's not with in my nature to criticize attractive people... or people in relationships...that's what is classified as a "HATER"but I am guilty of complimenting folks too much... I give you props for keeping this thread at the top of the GD forum so long and probably not even intending on it.
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Reply #125 posted 04/28/03 11:30am

Muse2noPharaoh

sad It is me I confess! I am not the happy happy joy joy soul I have pretended to be!
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Reply #126 posted 04/28/03 11:33am

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Muse2noPharaoh said:

sad It is me I confess! I am not the happy happy joy joy soul I have pretended to be!



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Reply #127 posted 04/28/03 11:33am

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Muse2noPharaoh said:

sad It is me I confess! I am not the happy happy joy joy soul I have pretended to be!



Puhleeeze! Now get that that sumbitchin sun out here...
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Reply #128 posted 04/28/03 11:35am

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while i do completely believe your intentions are honorable, i'm not sure this is an effective intervention.

my guess is that this person or person's will not be dissuaded by this. and, the repercussions of the vagueness of this thread is that a lot of people are speculating that, oh, it must be so and so, etc.

i know that you are not responsible for other's speculation, and it is not your intent to generate that sort of thing, but i think that is probably the end effect.

but, i hope it does what you wish it to.
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Reply #129 posted 04/28/03 11:36am

Muse2noPharaoh

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Muse2noPharaoh said:

sad It is me I confess! I am not the happy happy joy joy soul I have pretended to be!



Puhleeeze! Now get that that sumbitchin sun out here...



lol hug Now you KNEW where I was heading with that didn't you? lol
In your honor I wont do it this time!

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Reply #130 posted 04/28/03 11:38am

Muse2noPharaoh

pejman said:

Muse2noPharaoh said:

sad It is me I confess! I am not the happy happy joy joy soul I have pretended to be!



pat



I love that emoticon Pej! It is just so sappy cute!
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Reply #131 posted 04/28/03 11:44am

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Muse2noPharaoh said:

pejman said:

Muse2noPharaoh said:

sad It is me I confess! I am not the happy happy joy joy soul I have pretended to be!



pat



I love that emoticon Pej! It is just so sappy cute!





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Reply #132 posted 04/28/03 11:54am

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"Action not allowed

I'm sorry, but this request cannot be completed because the member you are attempting to contact has requested that communications from you be blocked."


What a negative thing to do...
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Reply #133 posted 04/28/03 12:11pm

Anji

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"Action not allowed

I'm sorry, but this request cannot be completed because the member you are attempting to contact has requested that communications from you be blocked."


What a negative thing to do...

I don't think that would be a negative thing to do under the circumstances. Some might argue sensible unless you wanted to apologise or offer some coaching.

Anyway, this thread is probably harmful and negative to the person concerned. I don't know who you're talking about but if you're right about his/her personality, then the solution would not be to call them out as 'deranged.' That would likely lead to yet more personalities, and you're back to where you started.

If you're actually trying to help anyone here, it's highly unlikely you're doing anything of the sort.
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Reply #134 posted 04/28/03 12:19pm

bananacologne

well - the person that I thought it was hasnt put in an appearance as yet. Which is strange, as pretty much every thread I seem 2 check out - has their posts all over it. They seem 2 think that their opinion is the be-all and end-all of everything. SUCH a big headed, SOB.
2 date, the only person on the org I cant even be bothered 2 give the time of day 2. disbelief
Their arrogant 'know-it-all' posts really rub me up the wrong way. I literally have 2 STOP myself from posting a reply, cuz I know I'll just go in all guns blazing, and that aint really me. sigh
Whoever YOU are talking about Icenine sounds a very sad and lonely individual... stickpoke
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Reply #135 posted 04/28/03 12:29pm

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bananacologne said:

well - the person that I thought it was hasnt put in an appearance as yet. Which is strange, as pretty much every thread I seem 2 check out - has their posts all over it. They seem 2 think that their opinion is the be-all and end-all of everything. SUCH a big headed, SOB.
2 date, the only person on the org I cant even be bothered 2 give the time of day 2. disbelief
Their arrogant 'know-it-all' posts really rub me up the wrong way. I literally have 2 STOP myself from posting a reply, cuz I know I'll just go in all guns blazing, and that aint really me. sigh
Whoever YOU are talking about Icenine sounds a very sad and lonely individual... stickpoke



Geez and I thought we were cool banana c. sad Maybe I should stop being so judgemental. Sorry. wink
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Reply #136 posted 04/28/03 1:00pm

Lleena

Anji said:

IceNine said:

"Action not allowed

I'm sorry, but this request cannot be completed because the member you are attempting to contact has requested that communications from you be blocked."


What a negative thing to do...

I don't think that would be a negative thing to do under the circumstances. Some might argue sensible unless you wanted to apologise or offer some coaching.

Anyway, this thread is probably harmful and negative to the person concerned. I don't know who you're talking about but if you're right about his/her personality, then the solution would not be to call them out as 'deranged.' That would likely lead to yet more personalities, and you're back to where you started.

If you're actually trying to help anyone here, it's highly unlikely you're doing anything of the sort.


I think that this dispute that Icenine has with the mysterious person (If you scroll up you will see where the person has been named ) would have been best dealt with by taking it to the moderators, after all that is why they are here.
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Reply #137 posted 04/28/03 1:27pm

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Geez and I thought we were cool banana c. sad Maybe I should stop being so judgemental. Sorry. wink


lol yeah, yeah! as if! hug
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Reply #138 posted 04/28/03 1:37pm

Muse2noPharaoh

Im entirely neutral and not a party to the "person" or situation in question. So in light of that I would like to make an observation. It is interesting to me the concern that is expressed to protect the individual. Most thoughts are being directed at the one who brought it to light (Icenine in this case) rather then the one who has been nasty to other people.
I would think we would choose to discourage individuals from being ugly to others in a hidden manner. I understand there are often a lot of underlying issues that cause some to behave in that way. Many of which do not indicate a mental issue. Just a fear of speaking up. However, they have chosen to use a secret path to be insulting to others yet bringing to light there misdeeds is viewed as wrong?
As Anji stated, if helping an individual is in order then it is probably counter effective. Unfortunately those that need love and understanding most in life receive it far less... Sadly the greater reason for this is they repel people. They do it to themselves. Growing more bitter as life goes by. Lacking the tools to change the course they have set themselves on. Sad indeed!

There are many here who have the guts to shout out things at others that are negative. I respect that they do it as themselves and stand to it! The same sort of coward who would do so in secret is one to be aware of as they would do it to their own friends and family!
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Reply #139 posted 04/28/03 1:42pm

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Muse2noPharaoh said:

Im entirely neutral and not a party to the "person" or situation in question. So in light of that I would like to make an observation. It is interesting to me the concern that is expressed to protect the individual. Most thoughts are being directed at the one who brought it to light (Icenine in this case) rather then the one who has been nasty to other people.
I would think we would choose to discourage individuals from being ugly to others in a hidden manner. I understand there are often a lot of underlying issues that cause some to behave in that way. Many of which do not indicate a mental issue. Just a fear of speaking up. However, they have chosen to use a secret path to be insulting to others yet bringing to light there misdeeds is viewed as wrong?
As Anji stated, if helping an individual is in order then it is probably counter effective. Unfortunately those that need love and understanding most in life receive it far less... Sadly the greater reason for this is they repel people. They do it to themselves. Growing more bitter as life goes by. Lacking the tools to change the course they have set themselves on. Sad indeed!

There are many here who have the guts to shout out things at others that are negative. I respect that they do it as themselves and stand to it! The same sort of coward who would do so in secret is one to be aware of as they would do it to their own friends and family!


In all seriousness Muse I have alot of respect for you... not just as a person but from the views you have and share in such a manner that is neither threatening nor repulses... you use your compassion to soften all matters big and small and find reason...

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Reply #140 posted 04/28/03 1:50pm

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Muse2noPharaoh said:

Im entirely neutral and not a party to the "person" or situation in question. So in light of that I would like to make an observation. It is interesting to me the concern that is expressed to protect the individual. Most thoughts are being directed at the one who brought it to light (Icenine in this case) rather then the one who has been nasty to other people.
I would think we would choose to discourage individuals from being ugly to others in a hidden manner. I understand there are often a lot of underlying issues that cause some to behave in that way. Many of which do not indicate a mental issue. Just a fear of speaking up. However, they have chosen to use a secret path to be insulting to others yet bringing to light there misdeeds is viewed as wrong?
As Anji stated, if helping an individual is in order then it is probably counter effective. Unfortunately those that need love and understanding most in life receive it far less... Sadly the greater reason for this is they repel people. They do it to themselves. Growing more bitter as life goes by. Lacking the tools to change the course they have set themselves on. Sad indeed!

There are many here who have the guts to shout out things at others that are negative. I respect that they do it as themselves and stand to it! The same sort of coward who would do so in secret is one to be aware of as they would do it to their own friends and family!


Actually this situation could have been best handled by the moderators..

Sometimes it is not wise to air your differences in a forum. It causes much curiousity, and upset.

But for the person causing this unrest I wish them peace of mind...
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Reply #141 posted 04/28/03 1:52pm

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Lleena said:

Anji said:

IceNine said:

"Action not allowed

I'm sorry, but this request cannot be completed because the member you are attempting to contact has requested that communications from you be blocked."


What a negative thing to do...

I don't think that would be a negative thing to do under the circumstances. Some might argue sensible unless you wanted to apologise or offer some coaching.

Anyway, this thread is probably harmful and negative to the person concerned. I don't know who you're talking about but if you're right about his/her personality, then the solution would not be to call them out as 'deranged.' That would likely lead to yet more personalities, and you're back to where you started.

If you're actually trying to help anyone here, it's highly unlikely you're doing anything of the sort.


I think that this dispute that Icenine has with the mysterious person (If you scroll up you will see where the person has been named ) would have been best dealt with by taking it to the moderators, after all that is why they are here.


I have not named anyone, nor have I confirmed who the person is, but this really isn't anything for the moderators. This is a situation where I will not say who the person is and they will be the only one who knows who they are.
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Reply #142 posted 04/28/03 1:54pm

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sag10 said:

Muse2noPharaoh said:

Im entirely neutral and not a party to the "person" or situation in question. So in light of that I would like to make an observation. It is interesting to me the concern that is expressed to protect the individual. Most thoughts are being directed at the one who brought it to light (Icenine in this case) rather then the one who has been nasty to other people.
I would think we would choose to discourage individuals from being ugly to others in a hidden manner. I understand there are often a lot of underlying issues that cause some to behave in that way. Many of which do not indicate a mental issue. Just a fear of speaking up. However, they have chosen to use a secret path to be insulting to others yet bringing to light there misdeeds is viewed as wrong?
As Anji stated, if helping an individual is in order then it is probably counter effective. Unfortunately those that need love and understanding most in life receive it far less... Sadly the greater reason for this is they repel people. They do it to themselves. Growing more bitter as life goes by. Lacking the tools to change the course they have set themselves on. Sad indeed!

There are many here who have the guts to shout out things at others that are negative. I respect that they do it as themselves and stand to it! The same sort of coward who would do so in secret is one to be aware of as they would do it to their own friends and family!


Actually this situation could have been best handled by the moderators..

Sometimes it is not wise to air your differences in a forum. It causes much curiousity, and upset.

But for the person causing this unrest I wish them peace of mind...


Once again, I disagree... the moderators are not needed on this one. The person might not even read this thread and he/she might not get the message, but there might be some other people who do the same thing who read this and think that it is about them... it is pretty amusing.
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Reply #143 posted 04/28/03 1:55pm

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Once again, I disagree... the moderators are not needed on this one. The person might not even read this thread and he/she might not get the message, but there might be some other people who do the same thing who read this and think that it is about them... it is pretty amusing.[/quote]

I find nothing amusing about this... It is sad.
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Reply #144 posted 04/28/03 1:56pm

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sag10 said:

Once again, I disagree... the moderators are not needed on this one. The person might not even read this thread and he/she might not get the message, but there might be some other people who do the same thing who read this and think that it is about them... it is pretty amusing.


I find nothing amusing about this... It is sad.[/quote]

Yes, that person is VERY sad... you are correct.
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Reply #145 posted 04/28/03 1:57pm

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I think all of you are Ice9.

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Reply #146 posted 04/28/03 1:58pm

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Muse2noPharaoh said:

Im entirely neutral and not a party to the "person" or situation in question. So in light of that I would like to make an observation. It is interesting to me the concern that is expressed to protect the individual. Most thoughts are being directed at the one who brought it to light (Icenine in this case) rather then the one who has been nasty to other people.
I would think we would choose to discourage individuals from being ugly to others in a hidden manner. I understand there are often a lot of underlying issues that cause some to behave in that way. Many of which do not indicate a mental issue. Just a fear of speaking up. However, they have chosen to use a secret path to be insulting to others yet bringing to light there misdeeds is viewed as wrong?
As Anji stated, if helping an individual is in order then it is probably counter effective. Unfortunately those that need love and understanding most in life receive it far less... Sadly the greater reason for this is they repel people. They do it to themselves. Growing more bitter as life goes by. Lacking the tools to change the course they have set themselves on. Sad indeed!

There are many here who have the guts to shout out things at others that are negative. I respect that they do it as themselves and stand to it! The same sort of coward who would do so in secret is one to be aware of as they would do it to their own friends and family!
The cause of anyone to repel another, is based on that person being initially repelled themselves (in some way or another). It is NOT a path they will have willingly set themselves on but it is one they will continue to walk down the more people call them out as being mentally ill. This behaviour doesn't have to be cyclic but unfortunately, few people have the tools themselves to work through the very basic reasons why their internal beliefs are created (and then recycled both within themselves and others).

Unfortunately, I see this thread as recycling an issue, rather than providing the tools to tackle it, therefore it is highly unlikely to go away because of this thread.
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Reply #147 posted 04/28/03 2:00pm

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IceNine said:

sag10 said:

Once again, I disagree... the moderators are not needed on this one. The person might not even read this thread and he/she might not get the message, but there might be some other people who do the same thing who read this and think that it is about them... it is pretty amusing.


I find nothing amusing about this... It is sad.


Yes, that person is VERY sad... you are correct.[/quote]

You would respond this way... THE WHOLE SITUATION IS SAD..
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Reply #148 posted 04/28/03 2:00pm

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Jeez...

I mean, come on... regardless of what this person did to make you angry or upset or whatever the case is... I mean, to create a thread to basically bring attention to them (you know someone would come up with a name, and who knows if it is the person Ice was talking about or not), knowing that orgers would jump on the bandwagon and get involved in this... drama.

I understand that notes were blocked, or whatever, but I don't agree with this thread at all, no matter who it is directed towards. To make a statement that you find that a person has a mental illness, when you have no idea if they do or not, is not right. Because, by that statement, if this person should ever decide to come back to the org, they will now be labeled as such, which I think is a bunch of shit. It was an issue between you and the person that you directed this thread towards, not between this person and every other orger on here.

I mean, if notes were blocked, why not just respond to the person when they post and keep it between the two of you, or if others have a problem with the person (or any person on here for that matter, I have to deal with shitty people on here all the time and I choose whether or not if I will respond to their posts or not), direct it towards them when they post. Don't go creating a thread to basically let every one have a go at them like a goddamned free for all.

Muse... I don't think people are trying to come here and protect someone and place blame on Ice because of who they think the person is. I think maybe it's just in bad taste and can be very hurtful to ANY person to make such assumptions on their character. There is a huge difference in bringing light to something and creating a thread to basically bash another person... even though the creator of the thread hasn't said a name... people always speculate, speculation creates rumors and, as we know, rumors can be very hurtful.

I mean... there are COUNTLESS orgers here who have created other accounts to say things that they maybe wouldn't have said under their regular name. Orger's who have created other accounts to stir things up. I've been guilty of it in the past.

Anyway... I still think this thread is a bunch of crap. That is just my opinion.
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Reply #149 posted 04/28/03 2:02pm

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Okay... what some of you are missing is this: I don't care if anyone likes this thread or not. I am not here to please you and I will do as I wish.

Thank you.
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