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you better go get checked out one of the 'ronas' symptoms is headaches... as for gettin the gist of somethin i said in someone elses reply good luck with that..
AS FOR THOSE WHO ARE WORKIN IN THE MEDICAL FIELD i have close relatives who have beed tireless in their work among those who have contracted the virus... and they have been tested and were positive with covid... they didn't eem have cold symptoms... they did get to stay home for some time but then too theu were allowed nay ordered to return to work in less than the week they shoulda been stayin home... of course therre's also the part where one went pos AFTER recievin the shot so there is that...
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"The mRNA vaccinations are a form of gene therapy, according to its definition in many parts of the world, including Europe. Gene therapies remain under strict regulation and few gene therapeutics have been approved by health authorities because of safety concerns. Some experts are less concerned with the long-term risks of the mRNA vaccines, but more concerned about the efficacy of them, as mRNA is very fragile and if not properly stored, could be destroyed. These molecules can fall apart at room temperature. mRNA is a very fragile molecule, meaning it can be destroyed very easily compared to DNA. Traditional vaccines revolved around injecting part of the pathogen, such as a protein or sugar, to induce an immune response. The COVID mRNA vaccine partly works by inducing local inflammatory reactions to trigger the immune system. The synthetic mRNA material, wrapped in an oily bubble coating made of lipid nanoparticles, delivers instructions to cells to make spike proteins to fight the virus. When synthetic mRNA enters the human patient, the material fuses to cells and cell’s molecules start to decode the genomic sequence to build the spike proteins. The immune system recognizes the spike protein as a foreign invader and produces antibodies against it. If the antibodies later encounter the actual coronavirus, they are ready to recognize and destroy it before it causes illness. Furthermore, the mRNA in the vaccine degrades in roughly 72 hours in order to not combine with human DNA. According to the Mayo Clinic website, “Gene therapy involves altering the genes inside your body’s cells in an effort to treat or stop disease. Genes contain your DNA — the code that controls much of your body’s form and function, from making you grow taller to regulating your body systems. Genes that don’t work properly can cause disease. Gene therapy replaces a faulty gene or adds a new gene in an attempt to cure disease or improve your body’s ability to fight disease. Gene therapy holds promise for treating a wide range of diseases, such as cancer, cystic fibrosis, heart disease, diabetes, hemophilia and AIDS.”
Their work employs a method already used in gene therapy for two inherited diseases, including a form of blindness: It uses a harmless virus as a vector, or carrier, to bring DNA into the patient’s cells. In this case, the DNA should instruct the cells to make a coronavirus protein that would stimulate the immune system to fight off future infections."
Gene-based vaccines are relatively simple to develop and manufacture. For years, they’ve been heralded as the future of vaccine development. However, until now, they’ve been largely experimental. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has never approved one for use in humans. Rosemary Rochford, also an immunologist at the University of Colorado, says she was initially skeptical they’d work as well as some other types of vaccines, like ones made from inactivated viruses. But the Pfizer data — assuming it holds up on further evaluation from outside experts and the FDA — is a strong proof of concept. “This mRNA platform seems to be very promising,” she says. The Moderna vaccine candidate, which should release initial data soon, is also based on mRNA. “I would assume their efficacy is probably going to be similar,” says Drew Weissman, the University of Pennsylvania immunologist who conducted the research behind mRNA vaccines. He’s also an advisor for BioNTech, the company that partnered with Pfizer on this vaccine. Moderna and Pfizer / BioNTech also had equivalent results in their phase 1 and phase 2 clinical trials, which are smaller scale, Kedl says. “You could almost superimpose the two, or switch the names and you would fool everybody. They really both are really strongly supportive of each other in terms of the strength of the immunity.” Before the COVID-19 pandemic, there wasn’t much research done on gene-based vaccines for infectious diseases — a lot of the work focused on treating cancers, not viruses, Rochford says. Clearance of the first gene-based vaccine for something like COVID-19 would open a new world of options for vaccine developers."
Over the decades, this tried-and-true approach has vanquished polio, eradicated smallpox, and reined in chicken pox, measles, and mumps. But vaccine production has never been simple or fast. Many flu vaccines are still grown in chicken eggs. Newer approaches draw on genetic engineering to eliminate the need for whole viruses, but their viral proteins are still grown inside live cells. The coronavirus vaccines from Moderna Inc., in Cambridge, Mass., and its German rival BioNTech SE propose to immunize people in a radically different way: by harnessing human cells to become miniature vaccine factories in their own right. Instead of virus proteins, the vaccines contain genetic instructions that prompt the body to produce them. Those instructions are carried via messenger RNA, or mRNA. Moderna’s mRNA-1273 consists of a strand of mRNA that tells the body to produce the spike protein the coronavirus uses to latch onto human cells. The strand is like one side of a zipper; the “teeth” are a sequence of chemical letters that cells read to produce the 1,273 amino acids that make up the spike protein. If the vaccine works as intended, the body will start producing the proteins soon after injection, prompting the immune system to react and build up protective antibodies against them. The great advantages of mRNA vaccines are speed and flexibility. No finicky live cells or hard-to-handle viruses are needed, and the basic chemistry is straightforward. Moderna’s vaccine reached Phase I human trials on March 16, only 63 days after the company began developing it. And at 6:43 a.m. on July 27, the first volunteer in Moderna’s 30,000-person, final-stag...cacy trial in the U.S. received an injection. Less than 12 hours later, BioNTech and its partner, Pfizer Inc., said they, too, were beginning a late-stage trial, a study that will be conducted in the U.S., Brazil, and several other countries. They took advantage of mRNA’s rapid-response capability to create four slightly different vaccines, which they compared in initial trials before selecting the best one for large-scale testing. In Phase I trials, both the Moderna and BioNTech-Pfizer vaccines stimulated people’s immune systems to produce antibodies that neutralized the virus in lab experiments, a positive initial sign. “This is a relatively new platform, but it is looking quite good,” Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said after the results of Moderna’s Phase I trial, sponsored by NIAID, were published. “Neutralizing antibodies are the gold standard of protection.” Moderna, which has worked with NIAID for years, is receiving $955 million from the U.S. government to support its coronavirus trials. How well mRNA vaccines will actually prevent Covid-19 remains unknown. No vaccine based on messenger RNA has ever been approved for any disease, or even entered final-stage trials until now, so there’s little published human data to compare how mRNA stacks up against older technologies. And the vaccines have hardly been free of side effects: In Moderna’s Phase I trial, all 15 of the patients who received the median of three dose sizes reported at least one side effect, though none were severe. Three of the 15 patients at the highest dose had temporary severe reactions. That dosage won’t be tested further."
The experimental vaccine, called AAVCOVID, could end the coronavirus pandemic in record time, experts say. That’s because it relies on a gene therapy technology t... blindness. Two Harvard-affiliated hospitals are spearheading the research, and the vaccine is expected to be tested in humans before the end of this year."
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KingBAD said:
you better go get checked out one of the 'ronas' symptoms is headaches... as for gettin the gist of somethin i said in someone elses reply good luck with that..
AS FOR THOSE WHO ARE WORKIN IN THE MEDICAL FIELD i have close relatives who have beed tireless in their work among those who have contracted the virus... and they have been tested and were positive with covid... they didn't eem have cold symptoms... they did get to stay home for some time but then too theu were allowed nay ordered to return to work in less than the week they shoulda been stayin home... of course therre's also the part where one went pos AFTER recievin the shot so there is that...
Well we know there are people who get no symptoms but are carriers. What makes it like the cold and flu is its easiness to transmit through casual contact unlike many more lethal infectious diseases. So Bob and Jane never feel sick and are fine but touch, sneeze, cough around items Tammy Michael Lisa Paul etc. touch or get on their clothes, then touch who knows who? Which of those gets severely sick to be hospitalized, which gets to die, which doesn’t feel a thing but carry it on just based on casual contact? What makes Bob and Jane so much more important over everyone else? Time keeps on slipping into the future...
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Most everything you just said is NOT true. There is a FLU Vaccine. There is a Pneumonia Vaccine. There is a COVID Vaccine. If you don't want to take any of the above, by all means don't, nobody is forcing you to.
And Covid was not man made to control the population, nor was it man made at all.
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Good, that means there will be more vaccine to go around. | |
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i got jokes TRUE but you're serious??? like i've always heard... ig'nance must be bliss i could spend time pickin you apart HOWEVER i just feel pity for you... when you accuse one of lyin you should do better than lie about it... it kills yo credibility... and there's somethin that will never change... no matter how many people believe in lie it will still be a lie eem if theose who tell em or believe em don't know that it's a lie... you should pay attention to the world you live in and less on what someone writes for you to believe... i am KING BAD!!!
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Where's yo FACTS? | |
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Facts don't buy his weed. All you others say Hell Yea!!  | |
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How much are hospitals getting? The numbers vary. During a television interview, a Minnesota state senator said it was $13,000 for someone admitted with COVID-19, and $39,000 if they were placed on a ventilator. Those estimates, however, have not been verified. According to a Medicare spokesperson, while hospitals do get reimbursed more for patients on ventilators, "Medicare adjusts hospital payment based on geographic variation in local costs.""
Republican Rep. Blaine Luetkemeyer of Missouri questioned Redfield during a House Oversight and Reform subcommittee hearing on coronavirus containment. He asked about the “perverse incentive” for hospitals to classify deaths as being coronavirus related when the virus didn’t cause the death. Luetkemeyer voiced concern about how an automobile accident-related death could be recorded as a COVID-related death. In this scenario, the death was recorded as COVID-related because the virus was in the victim’s system, even if the car accident was the major factor. “As long as you have COVID in your system you get to claim it as a COVID death, which means you get more money as attending physician, hospital, whatever,” Luetkemeyer said during the hearing. “Would you like to comment on that, about the perverse incentive? Is there an effort to try and do something different.” Redfield responded by telling the congressman, “I think you’re correct in that and we’ve seen this in other disease processes too.” “In the HIV epidemic, somebody may have a heart attack but also have HIV,” Redfield explained. “The hospital would prefer the DRG [death report] for HIV because there’s greater reimbursement. So I do think there is some reality to that.” Redfield said that death reporting comes down to what a physician thinks and how he or she classifies a death in a death certificate. He also said the National Center for Health Statistics reviews “all those death certificates.” Don't hate your neighbors. Hate the media that tells you to hate your neighbors. |
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Do you expect people with covid that are admitted to the hospital, not be billed? Yes, if you are put on a vent, it will cost more, the cost is the same whether you are vented for Covid, pneumonia, stroke, heart attack. They aren't raising the price of a vent just for Covid, and changing the price back to normal if it's not for covid. Stop being silly, you know this. | |
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YOU KNOW!!! i am KING BAD!!!
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ON THE SUBJECT OF FACTS... when all you got is what you're told you tend to end up 'believin' in jeezis n shit... you end up believin things like amerikkkan history... you end up believin this country won a revelution... you believe this country didn't kill around fitty million to become what it is... you believe whatever you told to believe... i KNOW that the cdc writes what it is told as it IS a gov'ment agency and therefore gov'ment run... conspiracy you say??? the other thing i know is i have no prollum bein seen as crazy or deranged because i know what i know... you go by my style of writin and let that dictate how you accept what i say... THAT IN ITSELF is a flaw in thinkin...
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anything that works on the 'na's dna rna has to do with genes and these shots do affect rna... it was actually their sellin point... maybe they changed how they explain it not a concern of mine... what i see trumps anything i can read about...
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Eh. CRISPR is a way of life in the medical world. This ain't nothing. Doesn't scare me. But that makes way more sense then always throwing out it's all fake and everybody's out to getcha type of answers. Time keeps on slipping into the future...
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PennyPurple said:
Do you expect people with covid that are admitted to the hospital, not be billed? Yes, if you are put on a vent, it will cost more, the cost is the same whether you are vented for Covid, pneumonia, stroke, heart attack. They aren't raising the price of a vent just for Covid, and changing the price back to normal if it's not for covid. Stop being silly, you know this. Perhaps he doesn’t realise that there are other countries in the world. And that they too have Covid causing nightmares for the Heath system and that they have state funded health care so the suggestion that it’s being kept going to make money shows an Americacentric naïveté which is absurd during a global pandemic. But that in an of itself tracks with the rest of his nonsense. If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it! |
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Here is an interesting account on this topic and other Trump inspired conspiracy theories. Itfocuses on the futile attempt to communicate about these things, and how political differences that pre-existed in families have now started to destroy families since the Trump era.
https://www.washingtonpos...id=hp_mr_1 [Edited 3/13/21 5:05am] |
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After working in the medical biz for too long, what all of us have had to learn is that if an individual is of sound mind, they have the right to make poor decisions. Best to not get over-wrought in trying to convince...keeps blood pressure down. | |
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I merely backed up the disputed fact that hospitals here do indeed have a financial incentive to list deaths as caused by Covid when that is not the actual cause. How many cases of people dying by other means while having covid in their system being listed as covid deaths are too many? Don't hate your neighbors. Hate the media that tells you to hate your neighbors. |
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i said that... in a disagreement folks seem to lose focus and just shoot in the dark hopin to hit anything... if they don't like somethin you've said it becomes anything they heard from anybody... to them it's all the same one sayin it... just sit back and be entertained....
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^^PotaTO, PoTAto! [Edited 3/13/21 11:04am] If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it! |
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gandorb said: Here is an interesting account on this topic and other Trump inspired conspiracy theories. Itfocuses on the futile attempt to communicate about these things, and how political differences that pre-existed in families have now started to destroy families since the Trump era.
https://www.washingtonpos...id=hp_mr_1 [Edited 3/13/21 5:05am] I don’t subscribe to Wash Post so can’t read it. But yes. Strange times we live in. The lunacy is having really serious affects on the world now. It’s not just flat earthers having or a laugh. If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it! |
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djThunderfunk said: Glad I don't live in India. I'd be in jail by now. When I'm driving around with my mask on or any such situations, 100% of the time it's because I simply haven't pulled it down yet generally because my mind is on something else more important to me than rather my mask is on. Nice to know that it has to be that I'm incapacity of critical thinking. Time keeps on slipping into the future...
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tomato clamato i am KING BAD!!!
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KingBAD said:
tomato clamato That’s the first comment of yours that I’ve read. Well done. Losing the verbal diarrhoea leads to people taking notice. 🙂 If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it! |
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