djThunderfunk said:

djThunderfunk said:

Good luck trying to convince someone to allow themselves to be experimented on with an unproven vaccine that uses unproven technology for a virus that has a 99.9% survival rate when the officials state that even after getting the vaccine we will still have to isolate, mask, social distance, avoid get togethers with family & friends and continue to endure lockdowns. What's the upside again?

It doesn't have a 99.9% survival rate. If it did there wouldn't be 500,000 + dead in the US alone.

For it being an 'unproven' vaccine, the numbers are sure going down and that's because of the vaccine.

Nothing I hate more, than uneducated, anti vaxxers...well...besides idiots.

PennyPurple said:

djThunderfunk said:

Good luck trying to convince someone to allow themselves to be experimented on with an unproven vaccine that uses unproven technology for a virus that has a 99.9% survival rate when the officials state that even after getting the vaccine we will still have to isolate, mask, social distance, avoid get togethers with family & friends and continue to endure lockdowns. What's the upside again?

It doesn't have a 99.9% survival rate. If it did there wouldn't be 500,000 + dead in the US alone.

For it being an 'unproven' vaccine, the numbers are sure going down and that's because of the vaccine.

Nothing I hate more, than uneducated, anti vaxxers...well...besides idiots.

By all means, allow yourself to be a test subject, nobody is trying to talk you out of it.
Also, feel free to wear as many masks as you can wrap around your head, never congregate in large groups again and don't leave your home if it makes you feel better.

You do what you believe is best for you, I'll do the same for myself.

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My body, my choice.

Fauci says that even if EVERYBODY vaccinates, we still have to continue double masking, social distancing and limitations on gatherings. So I ask again, what's the upside?

Genesia said:

I feel like I'm healthy enough to weather COVID, were I to come down with it

Same here. Even though I'm 60, I figure all the weight-training I've done all these years would help me weather COVID too. It did for my brother, who's three years younger. I have concerns about this vaccine, so I'll pass.

uPtoWnNY said:

No. My grandma got her first vaccine a few weeks ago, her next one is due tomorrow. One of my cousins is totally into cosniracy theories, he doesn't even react when I give him articles to read that would debunk his nonesense. The day before my grandma got her first vaccine, he called his mum because he was so worried about grandma getting vaxxed. I'm sure he would've talked her out of it if he would've been the one driving her there. So glad he didn't. The best part about all of it is that my grandma is as healthy as always and I'm sure she'll be after the last dose He's shitting his pants over nothing.

uPtoWnNY said:

Genesia said:

I feel like I'm healthy enough to weather COVID, were I to come down with it

Same here. Even though I'm 60, I figure all the weight-training I've done all these years would help me weather COVID too. It did for my brother, who's three years younger. I have concerns about this vaccine, so I'll pass.

Just so no one misunderstands: I have every intention of getting the vaccine the second I am notified that it's available for me. As I mentioned, I work in higher ed - so I am already on a list and am confident it'll be coming before too long.

Hell, even though we're been masking for a almost a year, I still got a flu shot last fall. (And have every year for almost 30 years - even though they have a lower efficacy than any of the COVID vaccines.)

Genesia said:

Hell, even though we're been masking for a almost a year, I still got a flu shot last fall. (And have every year for almost 30 years - even though they have a lower efficacy than any of the COVID vaccines.)

Wow, 30 years? I've never had a flu shot.

uPtoWnNY said:

Genesia said:

Hell, even though we're been masking for a almost a year, I still got a flu shot last fall. (And have every year for almost 30 years - even though they have a lower efficacy than any of the COVID vaccines.)

Wow, 30 years? I've never had a flu shot.

I had a Type A flu in the early 90s that convinced me to do everything I could to never get anything like that again. I've still had the flu a couple times since I started getting the vaccine, but it was always in years where they came right out and said they'd guessed wrong on the dominant strains for that year. And even then, I didn't get nearly as sick as I would have without getting the vaccine, at all.

Oh – and I'm getting the J & J COVID vaccine on Thursday!

DJ I bet was a huge super spreader.

Genesia said:

uPtoWnNY said:

Wow, 30 years? I've never had a flu shot.

I had a Type A flu in the early 90s that convinced me to do everything I could to never get anything like that again. I've still had the flu a couple times since I started getting the vaccine, but it was always in years where they came right out and said they'd guessed wrong on the dominant strains for that year. And even then, I didn't get nearly as sick as I would have without getting the vaccine, at all.

Oh – and I'm getting the J & J COVID vaccine on Thursday!

Yay!

PennyPurple said:

Genesia said:

I had a Type A flu in the early 90s that convinced me to do everything I could to never get anything like that again. I've still had the flu a couple times since I started getting the vaccine, but it was always in years where they came right out and said they'd guessed wrong on the dominant strains for that year. And even then, I didn't get nearly as sick as I would have without getting the vaccine, at all.

Oh – and I'm getting the J & J COVID vaccine on Thursday!

Yay!

I'll admit, I had a moment of disappointment because it wasn't Pfizer or Moderna. Then I realized I was being a moron and signed my ass up to get it.

KingBAD said:

did anybody get the news about dude who somehow

was given the civic duty of passin out the vaccines

but got busted givin em out to friends and family...

or the one where one of the deniers in charge

unstored the vaccines for a few days before he

released em on the public???

you people really comfortable gettin medicated by folks

that still feel like a election was stolen???

you comfortable listenin to deranged people plannin

to take over the country OR is that a conspiracy also???

YES!!! there is a sickness goin around

it's been goin around for years and bein weaponized

for profit...

it's not the vaccine folks should be worried about...

it's all the different hands they have to go through...

i don't live in fear of mass shooters

but i know they out there...

You make some very valid points here.

2freaky4church1 said:

DJ I bet was a huge super spreader.

I'd have to have it to spread it and I'd have to be many people instead of one person to be a super spreader. But nice try anyway.

Funny how they called every lockdown protest, Trump rally and the Superbowl super spreader events but there was never a "super" increase in cases tied to any of those things. Oh, and BLM protests were never called super spreader events because covid is political evidently.

I bet you wear 2 masks in your car alone.

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In India if you don't wear one they fine you.

Glad I don't live in India. I'd be in jail by now.

When I see people wearing masks in their cars by themselves or outside far away from any other people I assume these people aren't capable of critical thinking. Oh but wait, critical thinking is bad because it leads to extremism. Sorry, forgot.

Hudson said:

I will say that just because you think you can beat it, doesn’t mean you can. The odds are good that you will but it’s killed very healthy, non elderly people.

So has the vaccine.

djThunderfunk said:

lust said:

djThunderfunk said:

Glad I don't live in India. I'd be in jail by now.

When I see people wearing masks in their cars by themselves or outside far away from any other people I assume these people aren't capable of critical thinking. Oh but wait, critical thinking is bad because it leads to extremism. Sorry, forgot.

Critical thinking is sadly under utilised. I thought exactly that when you asserted that only 1 in a 1000 people with Covid will die from it when you live in a country of 320 million that’s already had over half a million deaths. I mean if basic maths is too hard, what change for actual critical thinking? Touché?

Per the CDC:

COVID-19 Survival Rates

• Age 0-19: 99.997%
• Age 20-49: 99.98%
• Age 50-69: 99.5%
• Age 70+: 94.6%

https://www.krtv.com/news...ival-rates

From data found here:

https://www.cdc.gov/coron...arios.html

We're a year in and I still only know 3 people that tested positive, only one of them got sick, no one I know has been hospitalized or died. I have a very large family spread all over the country.

And just for fun, here's an editorial from The New York Times explaining why critical thinking is bad:

https://www.nytimes.com/2...ntion.html

djThunderfunk said:

onlyforaminute said:

I had to Google the various strain of flu death rate totals for 2018-2019 in the US. I'm am left saying the reasons for starvation have been removed from nature's hand so it seems the ravages of infectious disease are soon to follow.

in the thirties they made a 'science fiction' called flash gordon

in the movie flash gordon had laser tech weapons...

at that time folks laffed and called people stupid for believin

such a thing as laser tech's existance...

HOWEVER no one was aware that lasers were produced

in the mid twenties...

for some reason MOST FOLKS think that science fiction

is the result of fantastic imaginins and NOT from research

and havin info from those they network with...

they also don't get that ESPECIALLY THIS USA has a fitty year

cap on the freedom of information therefore don't have to

tell the public shit about the dirt they do

and when the info is released it is redacted to the point of bein NO

information at all....

what happens is this...

hollyweird and others who work in media ESPECIALLY

those in the field of the scientific/espionage genre

give details to the public... they give them in a fictional manner

as to create a doubt about the possibility of such...

i said all this to say

it's all been played out in the movies...

in the movie about the great pandemic

the only difference between the movie and what

actually came to be is NOWHERE IN THE MOVIE

did the population make a run on toilet paper...

NOBODY COULDA SEEN THAT COMIN!!!

nobody would believe the stupidness of these

so called well educated 'we're #1' people...

but then too... nobody saw that this country goes for

folks who start wars and reelect them because they're

'wartime' officials...

from the very beginnin the FIRST thing that was

created was this virus... the second thing was

THE WAR ON COVID...

it was a daily term...

YES they created the virus

YES they spread the virus

and lastly YES

every other deadly thing (colds flu pneumonia)

suddenly were non existant for a year...

CALL ME ALL THE NUTS YOU WANT

i didn't live in fear of dyin from TB

the FLU a COLD or PNEUMONIA

and they have shots for all that that i refuse...

now this year you can actually die of a heart attack...

you have to get the shot first before it can qualify as

a heart attack...

without the shot you just die of covid...

A MONEY MAKER!!!

states are bein paid for their numbers of covid cases

hospitals that can't put up the numbers

can't get the money...

ECONOMICS suply and demand

it's the cornerstone of capitalism...

over population has been a topic for decades...

decades ago, there were still folks of good character

in positions of power... they dead as fukkk now

and every one of them spoke on the plight this country

would some day find itself in....

1984 was suppose to be a fiction

but it seems to be the roadmap that was set in place

long ago...

I JUST FELT LIKE WRITIN...

"PAY NO MIND TO THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN!!!" wizard of oz

KingBAD said:

onlyforaminute said: