Looks like non-meat meat is now a Thing! :

https://www.theguardian.c...r-meat-aoe

Impossible has been around for a minute. Red Robin and Burger King both serve Impossible burgers, at least a year ago. I've had them a couple of times at Red Robin, and they're delicious. Impossible meat is now in stores. I see it at Target right by the fresh chicken and beef.

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You're kidding, right? Soy burgers have been around for decades. Seriously - decades.

Genesia said:

You're kidding, right? Soy burgers have been around for decades. Seriously - decades.

Well yeah, but Impossible goes way beyond a soy burger. Even Boca burgers aren't all that great, despite Prince touting them for a hot second. Impossible really does taste and feel like a beef patty.

Genesia said:

You're kidding, right? Soy burgers have been around for decades. Seriously - decades.

I ate my first vegetarian hamburger in Minneapolis in 1996.

I think it was made by a company called Morningstar Farms.

Aldi in Germany had a great tasting vegetarian burgerpatty in the late 90s, they were made in the Netherlands but there weren´t that many vegetarians in Germany back then so they discontinued it. But if memory serves me right it tasted just as good or even better than the best vegetarian burgers that are on the market today.

I´m no longer a vegetarian but I still buy vegetarian burgers sometimes, but as good as some of them taste, they still can´t compare to the real deal.

TrivialPursuit said:

Genesia said:

You're kidding, right? Soy burgers have been around for decades. Seriously - decades.

Well yeah, but Impossible goes way beyond a soy burger. Even Boca burgers aren't all that great, despite Prince touting them for a hot second. Impossible really does taste and feel like a beef patty.

It´s been a while since I ate an Impossible burger and they don´t always have them at my supermarket but they really do taste a lot like a beef patty, though you can still tell that it´s not really beef. Something is lacking but I can´t say what it is. The texture is a bit soggy, too.

I haven´t tried the Burger King version yet but have heard good things about it, bu I´m not teally a fan of BK.

TrivialPursuit said:

Impossible has been around for a minute. Red Robin and Burger King both serve Impossible burgers, at least a year ago. I've had them a couple of times at Red Robin, and they're delicious. Impossible meat is now in stores. I see it at Target right by the fresh chicken and beef.

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Awesome! Start Buying, man!

This is news, here in India:

https://trak.in/tags/busi...ble-pizza/

Hudson said:

Good stuff, real burgers aren’t as tasty as they used to be or I’m just getting older and changing.

That depends...next time you're in NYC, check out Jackson Hole on 3rd Avenue. I guarantee you won't be disappointed.

https://jacksonholeburgers.com/35th/

uPtoWnNY said:

Hudson said:

Good stuff, real burgers aren’t as tasty as they used to be or I’m just getting older and changing.

That depends...next time you're in NYC, check out Jackson Hole on 3rd Avenue. I guarantee you won't be disappointed.

https://jacksonholeburgers.com/35th/

Wow, some of their burgers look delicious !

But some look a bit extreme, for example those with that extremely oversized patty. I wouldn´t really know how to eat one of those.

The late Anthony Bourdain, may he rest in peace, once said that the perfect burger is the one that you could eat with one hand. But then again, that would be a tad too small.

As far as franchise burger chains are concerned, I still like Five Guys a lot. They keep it simple, not too fancy , and their burgers and especially their cajun fries taste great.

What I don´t like are fancy burgers with stuff in them that in my opinion does not belong in a burger, for example brie cheese, cranberry sauce, mango etc., etc.

OnlyNDaUsa said:

JUST PUT IT HERE:

"...farmed poultry makes up around 70% of the birds on the planet. More than half of mammals are livestock, mainly cattle and pigs, and just 4% are wild animals."

I'm more intrigued by lab-grown flesh because it highly reduces recources meant for human endurance.

KoolEaze said:

uPtoWnNY said:

That depends...next time you're in NYC, check out Jackson Hole on 3rd Avenue. I guarantee you won't be disappointed.

https://jacksonholeburgers.com/35th/

Wow, some of their burgers look delicious !

But some look a bit extreme, for example those with that extremely oversized patty. I wouldn´t really know how to eat one of those.

The late Anthony Bourdain, may he rest in peace, once said that the perfect burger is the one that you could eat with one hand. But then again, that would be a tad too small.

As far as franchise burger chains are concerned, I still like Five Guys a lot. They keep it simple, not too fancy , and their burgers and especially their cajun fries taste great.

What I don´t like are fancy burgers with stuff in them that in my opinion does not belong in a burger, for example brie cheese, cranberry sauce, mango etc., etc.

You can't eat a Jackson Hole burger with one hand, that's for sure (I've seen folks use a knife & fork). My favorites are the soul, mexican, pizza & lobster burgers. Their side orders are great, and they made a terrific New England clam chowder.

After I eat there, I just want to go to sleep. That's how much food they give you.

onlyforaminute said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

As person who makes fake cow flesh wants to ban the real thing so he can sell more if his product? So eliminate the compatition?

Given the shortage that just recently happened I think the writing is on the wall that meat manufacturing is having a difficult time keeping up with the actual demand. Alternatives hsve been being looked at for a while now.

The shortage had absolutely nothing to do with there being an adequate supply of animals for meat. It was all about COVID outbreaks in processing facilities.

Meat production (especially if it doesn't involve factory farms and feed lots) is actually more environmentally friendly than, say, soy farming. Cattle can graze land that isn't suitable for other forms of agriculture. Most soy is genetically modified and requires tremendous amounts of resources and toxins (land, petroleum, pesticides) to produce.

Genesia said:

I'm not sure what you're getting at with the above post, but I prefer to avoid Frankenfood wherever possible.

I'm a meat based plant.

domainator2010 said:

TrivialPursuit said:

Impossible has been around for a minute. Red Robin and Burger King both serve Impossible burgers, at least a year ago. I've had them a couple of times at Red Robin, and they're delicious. Impossible meat is now in stores. I see it at Target right by the fresh chicken and beef.

Awesome! Start Buying, man!

I don't plan on buying it on a regular basis.

Genesia said:

I'm not sure what you're getting at with the above post, but I prefer to avoid Frankenfood wherever possible.

One of the best fast food hamburgers I´ve ever eaten (besides Five Guys of course) was a Butter Burger, and some other burger I can´t remember, at Culvers in Wisconsin. Haven´t tried IN N OUT yet but Culvers makes some great burgers.

onlyforaminute said:

Thank goodness for having a choice.

Agreed. I´m all for plant based alternatives but they are not necessarily healthier , and I´m not sure how much better they are for the environment. I´d gladly pay a premium if that would guarantee that the meat I eat is from animals that were raised responsibly and without torture. And I eat plant based burgers every now and then, even quite often to be honest, but they can´t compare with the real deal (yet). Also, I don´t understand why some of those big companies charge more for a plant based burger with cheap ingredients than I would have to pay for a meat based burger. They often contain cheap pea protein , or soy or seitan, and those ingredients are very cheap.

Not to mention the high fat levels and all the fat you need to prepare them.

KoolEaze said:

Genesia said:

I'm not sure what you're getting at with the above post, but I prefer to avoid Frankenfood wherever possible.

One of the best fast food hamburgers I´ve ever eaten (besides Five Guys of course) was a Butter Burger, and some other burger I can´t remember, at Culvers in Wisconsin. Haven´t tried IN N OUT yet but Culvers makes some great burgers.

A Culver's Butterburger with cheddar is the only burger I'll eat with absolutely nothing on it - it's that good.

uPtoWnNY said:

Hudson said:

Good stuff, real burgers aren’t as tasty as they used to be or I’m just getting older and changing.

That depends...next time you're in NYC, check out Jackson Hole on 3rd Avenue. I guarantee you won't be disappointed.

https://jacksonholeburgers.com/35th/

Noted! Also try:

*Orchard Grocer

*Uptown Vegan

The city is full of great vegan/vegetarian options, but for burgers, specifically, these 2 spots are my faves so far

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KoolEaze said:

onlyforaminute said:

KoolEaze said:

Agreed. I´m all for plant based alternatives but they are not necessarily healthier , and I´m not sure how much better they are for the environment. I´d gladly pay a premium if that would guarantee that the meat I eat is from animals that were raised responsibly and without torture. And I eat plant based burgers every now and then, even quite often to be honest, but they can´t compare with the real deal (yet). Also, I don´t understand why some of those big companies charge more for a plant based burger with cheap ingredients than I would have to pay for a meat based burger. They often contain cheap pea protein , or soy or seitan, and those ingredients are very cheap.

Not to mention the high fat levels and all the fat you need to prepare them.

I'm preplexed by it. It is a bit more and no the nutritional value isn't better than meat yet as I've posted even those in the meat industry have been investing in this for a little while now. You have several labs trying to find ways to "grow" meat without the need to slaughter. The technology is there but it is extremely expensive. But given time that might be the new way. It's seems obvious we are heading to a breaking point and someone is trying to work on solutions.

Oh, don´t get me wrong, I´m fully aware of the excesses that we´ve been part of for too long, and it´s definitely time to do something about it, as long as it is not forced or mandated.

And I have hopes that lab grown meat will be used more often in the near future. Right now it is still incredibly expensive but just a couple of years ago it was even more expensive and you would´ve had to pay thousands for a medium sized burger, which is no longer the case (even though it´s still a very costly process). I see a future for lab grown meat in fast food burgers and processed foods such as ravioli, sausages, cold cuts etc. but I doubt that it can really replace organic angus beef or any other organic , humanely produced meats. Some people can taste every little detail in quality beef, from how the cow was raised to what it ate and where it´s from, just like a wine connoiseur can tell you lots of details about a good bottle of wine, so lab grown meat is not going to convince a gourmet anytime soon, but yes, it is indeed a good sign that there are more and more alternatives these days, and that we can expect even more and better alternatives in the future, and I´m saying this as an ex-vegetarian who only eats meat very rarely these days.

I think we need balance.

KoolEaze said:

Could THIS be lab-grown?

I give it 5 years