The greatest movie ever?

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hollywood0024 said:
Genesia said:

It's on Turner Classic Movies tonight (12/2).

Thank you. P.S.: What do you think of the movie LAURA (1944)?

Oh, man - it's great. Gripping story, haunting music, compelling performances … it has it all.

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Reply #121 posted 12/03/20 6:39am

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RJOrion said:
hollywood0024 said:
I'm shocked you don't like Desperately Seeking Susan. Almost everyone loves that movie.
Cut it out...Desperately Seeking Susan is one of the worst movies ive ever seen..

lol Word.

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Reply #122 posted 12/03/20 6:40am

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The Godfather Followed by : Psycho Citizen Kane Raging Bull The Apartment The Searchers It’s a Wonderful Life Dr. Strangelove La Dolce Vita Jules and Jim On the Waterfront And at least 100s more

What? No Sweet Smell of Success? wink

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Reply #123 posted 12/03/20 8:40am

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Genesia said:

jjhunsecker said:

The Godfather Followed by : Psycho Citizen Kane Raging Bull The Apartment The Searchers It’s a Wonderful Life Dr. Strangelove La Dolce Vita Jules and Jim On the Waterfront And at least 100s more

What? No Sweet Smell of Success? wink

Damn ! I forgot to put it on my list

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Reply #124 posted 12/03/20 10:44am

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Gonna go with JAWS.

I saw it an impressionable age (9) and it had a lasting impact on me that led me to read the book at age 10. All 3 lead actors deliver incredible performances in entirely different ways and the use of subterfuge to mask the malfunctioning (and rather fake looking) shark led to some really smart and effective directorial techniques that, tbh, should be used more often in the age of CGI.

Aside from the shark itself not really holding up from an effects standpoint, it's basically a perfect film.

It never drags, is scary as fuck, haunts you when you swim (much like Psycho stays with you when you shower), has amazing cinematography and offers a legendary score. I've probably seen it 30 times and it always delivers. The audience I saw it with in the theater errupted in applause when that fucker blew up. Only other movie I'd seen that level of audience response at that point in my life was Rocky (another personal favorite).

Robert Shaw's performance in this film is some next level shit. He was drunk during most of the filming so maybe that's not so much acting. Roy Scheider is a great and understated lead.
Also, this is the movie that really launched Spielberg (who was convinced he'd made a giant piece of shit). Richard Dreyfuss thought it was gonna be a huge turd too.

How wrong they were.

Honorable mentions:

Shawshank Redemption
Goodfellas
Fargo
Pulp Fiction

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Reply #125 posted 12/03/20 7:32pm

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Sorry... the correct answer is Moonstruck. That was the required answer to win our grand prize.

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Reply #126 posted 12/03/20 9:10pm

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Hudson said:
Sorry... the correct answer is Moonstruck. That was the required answer to win our grand prize.

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Reply #127 posted 12/03/20 9:29pm

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Reply #128 posted 12/04/20 7:19am

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Hudson said:
Sorry... the correct answer is Moonstruck. That was the required answer to win our grand prize.

I take a backseat to no one in my love of Moonstruck. But the greatest movie ever? No.

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Reply #129 posted 12/05/20 12:40am

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WhisperingDandelions said:

Godfather isn't even the best mob movie ever... The immediate inundation of underdeveloped ancillary characters at once screams poor book adaptation.

Ha! I'm not alone! I watched The Godfather again yesterday, for the first time in ages, and it was certainly good, but the best movie ever? No. It's a great story about how the Mafia works, but I just couldn't get into the characters. It never really becomes clear how Michael turns from a war hero into a mob leader. It just happens. And especially the female characters that he married, Appolonia and Kate, remain as flat as a pancake; they're just in there to look pretty. I guess you could say that the main character of the movie is the Mafia itself, the family, but that also means that there is no character in the movie that I really sympathise with.
And because I'm a Sergio Leone fan (who was offered to direct this film, but turned it down), I just can't help comparing it to Once Upon a Time In America, which I think is a much better film. In that film, I really get the idea that I'm in New York in the early 20th century and that I get to know the characters. And it looks so beautiful.
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Reply #130 posted 12/05/20 6:55am

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SantanaMaitreya said:
WhisperingDandelions said:

Godfather isn't even the best mob movie ever... The immediate inundation of underdeveloped ancillary characters at once screams poor book adaptation.

Ha! I'm not alone! I watched The Godfather again yesterday, for the first time in ages, and it was certainly good, but the best movie ever? No. It's a great story about how the Mafia works, but I just couldn't get into the characters. It never really becomes clear how Michael turns from a war hero into a mob leader. It just happens. And especially the female characters that he married, Appolonia and Kate, remain as flat as a pancake; they're just in there to look pretty. I guess you could say that the main character of the movie is the Mafia itself, the family, but that also means that there is no character in the movie that I really sympathise with. And because I'm a Sergio Leone fan (who was offered to direct this film, but turned it down), I just can't help comparing it to Once Upon a Time In America, which I think is a much better film. In that film, I really get the idea that I'm in New York in the early 20th century and that I get to know the characters. And it looks so beautiful. [Edited 12/5/20 0:44am]

Once Upon a Time in America, noice, gr8 gr8 stuff.

Godfather's excessive amount of characters with little to grasp onto besides like, maybe one and a half, is some of the most egregiously bad handling for an oft-claimed "greatest" film ever... and Coppola hits the audience with all dozen+ in like four minutes... just awful... Shit works in a book but movies rarely give just balance to more than like 4... it's been done successfully, buuut not in the friggin' Godfather...

Once Upon a Time in America is the complete opposite. Godfather is "epic" on paper, OUATIA by the time you get to the climax that emotional weight of characters been "with" since childhood... that's a real epic.

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Reply #131 posted 12/05/20 7:37pm

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WhisperingDandelions said:

SantanaMaitreya said:
WhisperingDandelions said: Ha! I'm not alone! I watched The Godfather again yesterday, for the first time in ages, and it was certainly good, but the best movie ever? No. It's a great story about how the Mafia works, but I just couldn't get into the characters. It never really becomes clear how Michael turns from a war hero into a mob leader. It just happens. And especially the female characters that he married, Appolonia and Kate, remain as flat as a pancake; they're just in there to look pretty. I guess you could say that the main character of the movie is the Mafia itself, the family, but that also means that there is no character in the movie that I really sympathise with. And because I'm a Sergio Leone fan (who was offered to direct this film, but turned it down), I just can't help comparing it to Once Upon a Time In America, which I think is a much better film. In that film, I really get the idea that I'm in New York in the early 20th century and that I get to know the characters. And it looks so beautiful. [Edited 12/5/20 0:44am]

Once Upon a Time in America, noice, gr8 gr8 stuff.

Godfather's excessive amount of characters with little to grasp onto besides like, maybe one and a half, is some of the most egregiously bad handling for an oft-claimed "greatest" film ever... and Coppola hits the audience with all dozen+ in like four minutes... just awful... Shit works in a book but movies rarely give just balance to more than like 4... it's been done successfully, buuut not in the friggin' Godfather...

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Once Upon a Time in America is the complete opposite. Godfather is "epic" on paper, OUATIA by the time you get to the climax that emotional weight of characters been "with" since childhood... that's a real epic.

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You must have seen a different Godfather series than the one I have watched many times. lol Once Upon A Time In America, while an epic movie, is very uneven in it's execution... Perhaps because of unwanted editting by the studio... Some scenes are overly long and melodramatic while others seem too abbreviated and under-developed.

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Reply #132 posted 12/06/20 12:41am

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Yes, there was a lot of trouble with Once Upon a Time In America because of its length. If you watch it, watch the full 220 minute version. Yes, it's long, but as Leone said, when you cut a long film short, you don't get a short film, but a long film that's short in places. This is a film that you need to take your time for.
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Reply #133 posted 12/06/20 10:06pm

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Reply #134 posted 12/06/20 10:11pm

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Wizard of Oz

A classic for sure

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Reply #136 posted 12/08/20 10:58pm

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purplethunder3121 said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

Once Upon a Time in America, noice, gr8 gr8 stuff.

Godfather's excessive amount of characters with little to grasp onto besides like, maybe one and a half, is some of the most egregiously bad handling for an oft-claimed "greatest" film ever... and Coppola hits the audience with all dozen+ in like four minutes... just awful... Shit works in a book but movies rarely give just balance to more than like 4... it's been done successfully, buuut not in the friggin' Godfather...

.

Once Upon a Time in America is the complete opposite. Godfather is "epic" on paper, OUATIA by the time you get to the climax that emotional weight of characters been "with" since childhood... that's a real epic.

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You must have seen a different Godfather series than the one I have watched many times. Once Upon A Time In America, while an epic movie, is very uneven in it's execution... Perhaps because of unwanted editting by the studio... Some scenes are overly long and melodramatic while others seem too abbreviated and under-developed.

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I think he's confused, he must have seen another film entirely.

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Reply #137 posted 12/09/20 5:16pm

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Reply #138 posted 12/10/20 12:04pm

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Caligula.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!

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Reply #139 posted 12/10/20 12:14pm

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Reply #140 posted 12/11/20 9:53am

SantanaMaitrey a	2freaky4church1 said: Caligula. Never seen it. It's supposed to be a porn movie disguised as a period drama or vice versa. I just found the dvd, I need to watch it one of these days. If you take any of this seriously, you're a bigger fool than I am.
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Reply #141 posted 12/11/20 10:17am

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A bit better than Graffiti Bridge.

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Reply #142 posted 12/11/20 10:36am

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purplethunder3121 said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

SantanaMaitreya said:

WhisperingDandelions said: Ha! I'm not alone! I watched The Godfather again yesterday, for the first time in ages, and it was certainly good, but the best movie ever? No. It's a great story about how the Mafia works, but I just couldn't get into the characters. It never really becomes clear how Michael turns from a war hero into a mob leader. It just happens. And especially the female characters that he married, Appolonia and Kate, remain as flat as a pancake; they're just in there to look pretty. I guess you could say that the main character of the movie is the Mafia itself, the family, but that also means that there is no character in the movie that I really sympathise with. And because I'm a Sergio Leone fan (who was offered to direct this film, but turned it down), I just can't help comparing it to Once Upon a Time In America, which I think is a much better film. In that film, I really get the idea that I'm in New York in the early 20th century and that I get to know the characters. And it looks so beautiful. [Edited 12/5/20 0:44am]

Once Upon a Time in America, noice, gr8 gr8 stuff.

Godfather's excessive amount of characters with little to grasp onto besides like, maybe one and a half, is some of the most egregiously bad handling for an oft-claimed "greatest" film ever... and Coppola hits the audience with all dozen+ in like four minutes... just awful... Shit works in a book but movies rarely give just balance to more than like 4... it's been done successfully, buuut not in the friggin' Godfather...

.

Once Upon a Time in America is the complete opposite. Godfather is "epic" on paper, OUATIA by the time you get to the climax that emotional weight of characters been "with" since childhood... that's a real epic.

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“Once Upon a Time in America “ is a good movie with tons of holes in the plot. I watched it again recently, for the first time in about 20 years.

“The Godfather “ and “The Godfather Part II” are masterpieces, absolutely perfect filmmaking and storytelling.

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Reply #143 posted 12/11/20 10:37am

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Caligula.

The only film I ever actually walked out on

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herb4	2freaky4church1 said: A bit better than Graffiti Bridge. So this is where the bar is set? What has the most votes so far I wonder? [Edited 12/11/20 11:06am]
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Reply #145 posted 12/13/20 2:57pm

hollywood0024	jjhunsecker said: 2freaky4church1 said: Caligula. The only film I ever actually walked out on Why'd you walk out on it?
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Reply #147 posted 12/13/20 5:46pm

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hollywood0024 said:
jjhunsecker said:
The only film I ever actually walked out on
Why'd you walk out on it?

Blood & Guts razz

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Reply #148 posted 12/14/20 1:55pm

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jjhunsecker said:

purplethunder3121 said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

SantanaMaitreya said:

WhisperingDandelions said: Ha! I'm not alone! I watched The Godfather again yesterday, for the first time in ages, and it was certainly good, but the best movie ever? No. It's a great story about how the Mafia works, but I just couldn't get into the characters. It never really becomes clear how Michael turns from a war hero into a mob leader. It just happens. And especially the female characters that he married, Appolonia and Kate, remain as flat as a pancake; they're just in there to look pretty. I guess you could say that the main character of the movie is the Mafia itself, the family, but that also means that there is no character in the movie that I really sympathise with. And because I'm a Sergio Leone fan (who was offered to direct this film, but turned it down), I just can't help comparing it to Once Upon a Time In America, which I think is a much better film. In that film, I really get the idea that I'm in New York in the early 20th century and that I get to know the characters. And it looks so beautiful. [Edited 12/5/20 0:44am]

Once Upon a Time in America, noice, gr8 gr8 stuff.

Godfather's excessive amount of characters with little to grasp onto besides like, maybe one and a half, is some of the most egregiously bad handling for an oft-claimed "greatest" film ever... and Coppola hits the audience with all dozen+ in like four minutes... just awful... Shit works in a book but movies rarely give just balance to more than like 4... it's been done successfully, buuut not in the friggin' Godfather...

.

Once Upon a Time in America is the complete opposite. Godfather is "epic" on paper, OUATIA by the time you get to the climax that emotional weight of characters been "with" since childhood... that's a real epic.

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Like I said, you need to watch the full version of Once Upon a Time to really enjoy it. It runs for almost four hours, but what you get is poetry on film. It's not a film about gangsters. It's a film about friendship, growing up, betrayal and mostly about how time goes by. It's a film about how myth and reality and memory get mixed up... I don't know if the full version was ever released in the country that it was named after. Such a shame that it was chopped to pieces. Once again, like any Leone film, you need to watch the full version.

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