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PrintableSantanaMaitreya said: jjhunsecker said: “Once Upon a Time in America “ is a good movie with tons of holes in the plot. I watched it again recently, for the first time in about 20 years. “The Godfather “ and “The Godfather Part II” are masterpieces, absolutely perfect filmmaking and storytelling. Like I said, you need to watch the full version of Once Upon a Time to really enjoy it. It runs for almost four hours, but what you get is poetry on film. It's not a film about gangsters. It's a film about friendship, growing up, betrayal and mostly about how time goes by. It's a film about how myth and reality and memory get mixed up... I don't know if the full version was ever released in the country that it was named after. Such a shame that it was chopped to pieces. Once again, like any Leone film, you need to watch the full version. The full version is available on Blu-ray. That’s what I watched. There’s a lot to admire in it, some great scenes. But also some stuff that is totally implausible. (Have you ever heard the theory that most of the more modern events in the film are not real, but the figment of DeNiro’s opium induced fantasies? In that context, a lot of the implausible occurrences make more sense) On the other hand, “The Godfather “ and “The Godfather Part II” are perfect films in every way, from writing to direction to performances #SOCIETYDEFINESU | |
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Yes, I've read about that theory, Leone didn't intend it that way, but he didn't deny it either. It surely gives the film an extra mening: you can look at it that way, but you don't have to. If you take any of this seriously, you're a bigger fool than I am. | |
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jjhunsecker said: hollywood0024 said: Why'd you walk out on it? It was revolting... And I’m no prude... I love porn. But to me this was not erotic at all I just watched it and it was much better than I expected. Yes, with some scenes, they must have thought, how can we make this as disgusting as possible!? But when you look beyond that, you see a pretty good story about a man who is going crazy. And Malcolm McDowell does an excellent job of portraying this Emperor who has complete power and who loses his mind. And the sex scenes are part of that, they're supposed to be revolting, because that's how Caligula dominates the people around him. Whores of blameless reputation! he shouts. Yes, the movie has it's funny moments too. It's a totally demented movie about a totally demented man. [Edited 12/17/20 15:13pm] If you take any of this seriously, you're a bigger fool than I am. | |
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Malcolm McDowell is a big right winger. All you others say Hell Yea!!  | |
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Wha about Anti Christ, that is one great flick. Albeit sick All you others say Hell Yea!! | |
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Jaws Godfather I & II Goodfellas Singin in the Rain Psycho The Thing (JC) North By Northwest Shawshank Redemption Fargo Pulp Fiction
I get why Citizen Kane is considered the best...especially for its time...but personally its not for me. Has anyone seen Mank yet? About Herman Mankiewicz who wrote CK with Orson Wells? Interesting movie...check it out esp if your a fan of the original. Very well done.
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SantanaMaitreya said: WhisperingDandelions said: Godfather isn't even the best mob movie ever... The immediate inundation of underdeveloped ancillary characters at once screams poor book adaptation. Ha! I'm not alone! I watched The Godfather again yesterday, for the first time in ages, and it was certainly good, but the best movie ever? No. It's a great story about how the Mafia works, but I just couldn't get into the characters. It never really becomes clear how Michael turns from a war hero into a mob leader. It just happens. And especially the female characters that he married, Appolonia and Kate, remain as flat as a pancake; they're just in there to look pretty. I guess you could say that the main character of the movie is the Mafia itself, the family, but that also means that there is no character in the movie that I really sympathise with. And because I'm a Sergio Leone fan (who was offered to direct this film, but turned it down), I just can't help comparing it to Once Upon a Time In America, which I think is a much better film. In that film, I really get the idea that I'm in New York in the early 20th century and that I get to know the characters. And it looks so beautiful. [Edited 12/5/20 0:44am] To me, I think that Michael was in denial about his own capacity for evil. He wanted to be apart from the family business, and tells Kay at the beginning that his family’s world is “not me.” When he kills Solozzo- ostensibly just to protect his father- he has to accept that he not only belongs in this world, but is very good at the machinations it entails. Michael looks into the abyss that he always believed he was above, and allows it to seduce him. Coppola had a very good point about Don Corleone and his three sons, and that is that each of them has a part of him, yet lacks an essential component. Sonny has the Don’s fearlessness and guts, but not his brain. Michael has his brain and balls, but not his heart. Fredo has the heart, but not the brains or the balls. I do agree that the female characters are underdeveloped, but the film is exploring a mainly male universe. Really, the only fully developed female characters I can think of in Mob centered stories are Carmella and Dr. Melfi in “The Sopranos “ #SOCIETYDEFINESU | |
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Poplife88 said: Jaws Godfather I & II Goodfellas Singin in the Rain Psycho The Thing (JC) North By Northwest Shawshank Redemption Fargo Pulp Fiction
I get why Citizen Kane is considered the best...especially for its time...but personally its not for me. Has anyone seen Mank yet? About Herman Mankiewicz who wrote CK with Orson Wells? Interesting movie...check it out esp if your a fan of the original. Very well done.
I need to add Almost Famous to this list! |
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it's so difficult to say. Legitimate arguments could be made for 50, maybe 100, films, and foreign films, particularly Asian films, will often get overlooked. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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1. Citizen Kane
2. Apocalypse Now Redux.
3. Vertigo
4, Night of the Hunter
5. Annie Hall
6. Shindler's List
7. Crimes and Misdeameaners.
8. Night of the Living Dead.
9. North by Northwest
10. Evil Dead 2 All you others say Hell Yea!! | |
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That's what i said! Let's drop our mics together "Whatever skin we're in
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Deja Vu (Denzel) Gladiator Malcolm X The Godfather II & III Boomerang Scarface (Pacino) Heat (Deniro) Rocky Tomestone The Matrix The Usual Suspects Purple Rain The Dark Knight Alien The 10 Commandments Back 2 the Future Shawshank Redemption Good Fellas The Wizard of Oz Star Wars Casino Rambo ...........2 name a few.
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It's between tese three for me .
Carey Grant/Rosalind Russel version of His Girl Friday Citizen Kane The Good The Bad an The Ugly | |
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