Fires, pandemic, bad air quality, RBG gone...sure, throw in a 4.6 earthquake - we can take it!.... LA STRONG!

California is a big state; it depends where you live. I'm in a forested area outside of San Francisco and most years its a major anxiety provoking spell for 2-3 months. I sleep on my front porch on Red flag alert nights with my essential stuff and pet cages near me ready to evacuate. This year sucked because of the freak lightning storm.

You have to live with the knowledge that the fire could come roaring up your street any day or night and pray for rain.

Honestly, it really sucks!

Nonamesfan said:

California is a big state; it depends where you live. I'm in a forested area outside of San Francisco and most years its a major anxiety provoking spell for 2-3 months. I sleep on my front porch on Red flag alert nights with my essential stuff and pet cages near me ready to evacuate. This year sucked because of the freak lightning storm.

You have to live with the knowledge that the fire could come roaring up your street any day or night and pray for rain.

Honestly, it really sucks!

Oh, man. I had some friends who lived in a So-Cal mountain community and they loved the lifestyle, but as soon as their kids were grown they moved because they'd evacuated for fires too many times and they said the stress wasn't worth it after a time.

Sounds like you are prepared - hope you do not have to evac - stay safe!

https://www.sgtreport.com/2020/09/dangerous-forever-chemicals-found-in-at-least-500-drinking-water-wells-across-california/

Designed in California. Fabricated in China.

A search for California on this website is a wealth of info of what's really happening and why.

tump said:

https://www.sgtreport.com/2020/09/dangerous-forever-chemicals-found-in-at-least-500-drinking-water-wells-across-california/

Designed in California. Fabricated in China.

A search for California on this website is a wealth of info of what's really happening and why.

While the article may have some facts, this statement about who they are is

SGT Report is the corporate propaganda antidote. Providing exclusive original content and interviews with some of the best known voices in the world of economics and precious metals. SGT Report is your daily source for truth in a time of universal deceit. And as the global economic outlook continues to deteriorate,

S2DG: That's by far one of the best sources of real news on the net. You are free to call it nutty if you want, of course. I won't stop you.

tump said:

S2DG: That's by far one of the best sources of real news on the net. You are free to call it nutty if you want, of course. I won't stop you.

The mission statement is a bit crazy as it makes the claim that they are the only source of the truth in the "world of economics and precious metals".

I tend to use multiple sources and read those who use researched facts but I guess that's just me...

The 'writing might be on the wall' re: CA. These fires may

be an annual event (August-Oct). The drought is likely here to stay with

the exception of intermittent years of normal rainfall.

Our family is seriously considering moving and we are native Californians.

Margot said:

The 'writing might be on the wall' re: CA. These fires may

be an annual event (August-Oct). The drought is likely here to stay with

the exception of intermittent years of normal rainfall.

Our family is seriously considering moving and we are native Californians.

Where would you go?

DiminutiveRocker said:

Margot said:

The 'writing might be on the wall' re: CA. These fires may

be an annual event (August-Oct). The drought is likely here to stay with

the exception of intermittent years of normal rainfall.

Our family is seriously considering moving and we are native Californians.

Where would you go?

We're thinking about the midwest...somewhere with plenty of H2O.

Being Californians, though, there is the wimp factor when it comes to 'real' weather-LOL.

Margot said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

Where would you go?

We're thinking about the midwest...somewhere with plenty of H2O.

Being Californians, though, there is the wimp factor when it comes to 'real' weather-LOL.

I totally get it. I am a spoiled Cali native also.

DiminutiveRocker said:

Margot said:

The 'writing might be on the wall' re: CA. These fires may

be an annual event (August-Oct). The drought is likely here to stay with

the exception of intermittent years of normal rainfall.

Our family is seriously considering moving and we are native Californians.

Where would you go?

I haven't given up on California yet but it's getting close. Probably not necessarily "giving up" on it, it's just I'm tired of the lack of rain(among other things)where i live(San Diego). I'm a Bay Area native and really want to move back there. I've lived in a few places(Seattle, Las Vegas, San Jose, Fresno, Sacramento, San Diego), so I'm kind of used to moving around. I'm starting to get too old to be constantly moving so i figured I'd better try to get back home(the bay). If for whatever reason that doesn't work(mainly because of the high cost of livng) then I'm seriously thinking about Denver. If not there then maybe Sacramento or back to Seattle. Because of Covid, some bay area cities have had a decline in rents so that's a good thing(of course amongst a bad situation).


Anyways, overall, i think California is one of the best states in the union. Right now things are bad but for the most part i'd rather live here than just about any other state. CA is like 4 or 5 different states rolled into one. It's just the high cost of living that needs to be dealt with. And as far as the drought? Heaven help us on that one...

JoeyC said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

Where would you go?

I haven't given up on California yet but it's getting close. Probably not necessarily "giving up" on it, it's just I'm tired of the lack of rain(among other things)where i live(San Diego). I'm a Bay Area native and really want to move back there. I've lived in a few places(Seattle, Las Vegas, San Jose, Fresno, Sacramento, San Diego), so I'm kind of used to moving around. I'm starting to get too old to be constantly moving so i figured I'd better try to get back home(the bay). If for whatever reason that doesn't work(mainly because of the high cost of livng) then I'm seriously thinking about Denver. If not there then maybe Sacramento or back to Seattle. Because of Covid, some bay area cities have had a decline in rents so that's a good thing(of course amongst a bad situation).


Anyways, overall, i think California is one of the best states in the union. Right now things are bad but for the most part i'd rather live here than just about any other state. CA is like 4 or 5 different states rolled into one. It's just the high cost of living that needs to be dealt with. And as far as the drought? Heaven help us on that one...

We live in the Bay Area and it is wonderful for the most part. Everything is expensive, though; gas is $3.40/gal, CA taxes are high etc.

The decision to leave can be somewhat irrevocable as it would be very difficult to return as one is priced-out of real estate pretty quickly.

We are going to explore a few areas, talk to some realtors etc.

Margot said:

JoeyC said:

I haven't given up on California yet but it's getting close. Probably not necessarily "giving up" on it, it's just I'm tired of the lack of rain(among other things)where i live(San Diego). I'm a Bay Area native and really want to move back there. I've lived in a few places(Seattle, Las Vegas, San Jose, Fresno, Sacramento, San Diego), so I'm kind of used to moving around. I'm starting to get too old to be constantly moving so i figured I'd better try to get back home(the bay). If for whatever reason that doesn't work(mainly because of the high cost of livng) then I'm seriously thinking about Denver. If not there then maybe Sacramento or back to Seattle. Because of Covid, some bay area cities have had a decline in rents so that's a good thing(of course amongst a bad situation).


Anyways, overall, i think California is one of the best states in the union. Right now things are bad but for the most part i'd rather live here than just about any other state. CA is like 4 or 5 different states rolled into one. It's just the high cost of living that needs to be dealt with. And as far as the drought? Heaven help us on that one...

We live in the Bay Area and it is wonderful for the most part. Everything is expensive, though; gas is $3.40/gal, CA taxes are high etc.

The decision to leave can be somewhat irrevocable as it would be very difficult to return as one is priced-out of real estate pretty quickly.

We are going to explore a few areas, talk to some realtors etc.

Maybe it would be worth visiting some of the areas you are thinking of moving at their most extreme seasons - that way you can get a sense of what it would be like.

DiminutiveRocker said:

Margot said:

We live in the Bay Area and it is wonderful for the most part. Everything is expensive, though; gas is $3.40/gal, CA taxes are high etc.

The decision to leave can be somewhat irrevocable as it would be very difficult to return as one is priced-out of real estate pretty quickly.

We are going to explore a few areas, talk to some realtors etc.

Maybe it would be worth visiting some of the areas you are thinking of moving at their most extreme seasons - that way you can get a sense of what it would be like.

This is what we have come up with.

Try to buy in a semi-affordable area, recognize that winters will be somewhat overwhelming,

take savings from 'semi-affordability' and leave for warmer climes Jan-Feb 15 or so.

Don't want to land there deep into winter as we would likely not make the move.

Margot said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

Maybe it would be worth visiting some of the areas you are thinking of moving at their most extreme seasons - that way you can get a sense of what it would be like.

This is what we have come up with.

Try to buy in a semi-affordable area, recognize that winters will be somewhat overwhelming,

take savings from 'semi-affordability' and leave for warmer climes Jan-Feb 15 or so.

Don't want to land there deep into winter as we would likely not make the move.

A really good website to get information on different cities and states is City Data. it has a Forums section where there's all kinds of info on the cost of living, real estate, taxes, climate, demographics etc etc on any given city or state. it's one of the best forums out there.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/

JoeyC said:

Margot said:

This is what we have come up with.

Try to buy in a semi-affordable area, recognize that winters will be somewhat overwhelming,

take savings from 'semi-affordability' and leave for warmer climes Jan-Feb 15 or so.

Don't want to land there deep into winter as we would likely not make the move.

A really good website to get information on different cities and states is City Data. it has a Forums section where there's all kinds of info on the cost of living, real estate, taxes, climate, demographics etc etc on any given city or state. it's one of the best forums out there.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/

Thanks, Joey-

Just what we need!

Margot said:

JoeyC said:

https://www.city-data.com/forum/

Thanks, Joey-

Just what we need!

No problem. City Data is my go to website when planning a move.

JoeyC said:

Margot said:

Thanks, Joey-

Just what we need!

No problem. City Data is my go to website when planning a move.

I took a look at it and it is really interesting.

Thanks again.

Margot said:

JoeyC said:

No problem. City Data is my go to website when planning a move.

I took a look at it and it is really interesting.

Thanks again.

I checked it out too - and I'm not even moving

DiminutiveRocker said:

Margot said:

I took a look at it and it is really interesting.

Thanks again.

I checked it out too - and I'm not even moving

Margot said:

I have always lived in California. I do not remember fires of this magnitude, frequency or sheer

volume.

California does not receive rain from March-October and is quite dry with brown terrain after June.

As I recall, in the past most fires were set by arsonists, then older, failing PGE (Utility) transformers etc were responsible for sparking fires. This year there was a fluke thunderstorm with intense,

prolonged lightening which set off numerous fires. We have only had 50% 'normal' rain-fall as well.

I live in the Bay Area and cannot go outside as air quality is poor.

I am pretty much resigned to having fires from Aug-early Nov from now on.

Am considering leaving CA. Never thought I would ever leave this state. (High cost of living too)

The fires haven't hit where I live yet but we all have bad air quality out here.