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Reply #30 posted 08/26/20 12:33am

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I thnk they said Affleck's Batman is the standard 'Batman' for The Flash and the guy who will give him his new suit and all.

Yeah and I'm betting it's that new suit which allows him to travel back in time to meet Michael Keaton. Because superhero logic. Then, once he's crossed over to the Burton universe he either stays there or Keaton travels back with him to the "Snyder-verse". When Keaton was just in talks for the role, word was that The Flash would be stuck in the Burton universe but who knows how true these rumours are. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see. An interesting quote I seen from the director suggested multiple Batmen other than Affleck. So we know about Michael Keaton but I wonder if we'll get cameos from anyone else? Val Kilmer, perhaps? I know he can't speak anymore but he wouldn't have to if it's only a short cameo. Or they could get Kevin Conroy to dub him. I imagine Clooney is probably out given how utterly terrible he was though. Christian Bale probably wouldn't be interested and honestly, I wouldn't be interested in seeing him back either. Maybe Pattinson could cameo though to tie in his movie with the multi verse thing they're going for. The DC FanDome thing had clips of all sorts when they were discussing possible cameos. Watchmen, Superman even that Keanu Reeves Constantine movie I forgot existed. Just as long as they don't forget that they're making a Flash movie and instead stuff it full of cameos.


I think the Flash timetravel thing is already in the SnyderCut so proabbly not because of his new suit.
I also hope The Flash movie won't be some commercial for the other properties or more about Batman than The Flash.

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Reply #31 posted 08/26/20 12:05pm

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What do you all think of the new Batman game called "Gotham Knights"? Here is a link for the trailer
https://youtu.be/IhVf_3TeTQE

I haven't played a Batman game since Arkham asylum because those games are a bit too difficult for me and i get stuck at certain stages but i might give this one a shot.The thought of playing as knightwing is very cool to me.


I loved the Arkham games. They were some of the first games I ever played but like you, I found them to be quite difficult in places. Even on the easiest difficulty setting. I don't like the look of Gotham Knights though. Admittedly, I don't know much about it but it looks like one of those multiplayer games. My brother works for a video game company and he sends me loads of free games. One of them was a game called The Division 2. He told me I could play it all single player so I tried it but I hated it. Yeah, it's possible to play it by yourself but you'd want to be some kind of videogame professional to stand a chance. That's the same vibe I get from Gotham Knights. Which is a shame because I'd like to play a whole game as Batgirl but if I'm being punished for not playing with other people then I'm not interested.

There was also a Suicide Squad game announced. And that looks even worse.[/quote[
Yep.Thats why i didn't even bother to mention it but i do like the idea of a evil justice league though.
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Reply #32 posted 08/26/20 12:13pm

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What do you all think of the new Batman game called "Gotham Knights"? Here is a link for the trailer
https://youtu.be/IhVf_3TeTQE

I haven't played a Batman game since Arkham asylum because those games are a bit too difficult for me and i get stuck at certain stages but i might give this one a shot.The thought of playing as knightwing is very cool to me.


I loved the Arkham games. They were some of the first games I ever played but like you, I found them to be quite difficult in places. Even on the easiest difficulty setting. I don't like the look of Gotham Knights though. Admittedly, I don't know much about it but it looks like one of those multiplayer games. My brother works for a video game company and he sends me loads of free games. One of them was a game called The Division 2. He told me I could play it all single player so I tried it but I hated it. Yeah, it's possible to play it by yourself but you'd want to be some kind of videogame professional to stand a chance. That's the same vibe I get from Gotham Knights. Which is a shame because I'd like to play a whole game as Batgirl but if I'm being punished for not playing with other people then I'm not interested.

There was also a Suicide Squad game announced. And that looks even worse.[/quote[
Yep.Thats why i didn't even bother to mention it but i do like the idea of a evil justice league though.
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Hasn't an evil Justice League already been done though? I didn't play it myself but that Injustice game and its sequel features an evil Superman leading a team of villainous Justice League members. Why don't they actually do a game where you play as a heroic Superman? I only play 2 or 3 games a year but if they made a single player Superman game set in an open world Metropolis, like the Arkham games or the Spider-Man game, then that would be top of my list for sure.
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Reply #33 posted 08/26/20 7:23pm

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I loved the Arkham games. They were some of the first games I ever played but like you, I found them to be quite difficult in places. Even on the easiest difficulty setting. I don't like the look of Gotham Knights though. Admittedly, I don't know much about it but it looks like one of those multiplayer games. My brother works for a video game company and he sends me loads of free games. One of them was a game called The Division 2. He told me I could play it all single player so I tried it but I hated it. Yeah, it's possible to play it by yourself but you'd want to be some kind of videogame professional to stand a chance. That's the same vibe I get from Gotham Knights. Which is a shame because I'd like to play a whole game as Batgirl but if I'm being punished for not playing with other people then I'm not interested.

There was also a Suicide Squad game announced. And that looks even worse.[/quote[
Yep.Thats why i didn't even bother to mention it but i do like the idea of a evil justice league though.
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Hasn't an evil Justice League already been done though? I didn't play it myself but that Injustice game and its sequel features an evil Superman leading a team of villainous Justice League members. Why don't they actually do a game where you play as a heroic Superman? I only play 2 or 3 games a year but if they made a single player Superman game set in an open world Metropolis, like the Arkham games or the Spider-Man game, then that would be top of my list for sure.

I had no idea they already did a evil justice league storyline.I have injustice but never bothered to play the story mode,is always either play friends or play online one on one matches.A solo Superman game would be really cool.I think the lat game they did like that was the Superman returns game.it didnt turn out too good but i am sure it could work now days.
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Reply #34 posted 08/27/20 12:41am

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Hasn't an evil Justice League already been done though? I didn't play it myself but that Injustice game and its sequel features an evil Superman leading a team of villainous Justice League members. Why don't they actually do a game where you play as a heroic Superman? I only play 2 or 3 games a year but if they made a single player Superman game set in an open world Metropolis, like the Arkham games or the Spider-Man game, then that would be top of my list for sure.

I had no idea they already did a evil justice league storyline.I have injustice but never bothered to play the story mode,is always either play friends or play online one on one matches.A solo Superman game would be really cool.I think the lat game they did like that was the Superman returns game.it didnt turn out too good but i am sure it could work now days.


I didn't even know there was a game of Superman Returns. My brother has a Superman game on the PS2 when he was really young. Shadow of Apokolips, it was called. I can't believe I still remember that. It was based on the animated series. He used to play the first level over and over again because you could free roam around Metropolis preventing crimes and disasters and such. Looking back, they should have just had that first level as the entire game because the rest of it was kind of crap 😂
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Reply #35 posted 08/28/20 7:36pm

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They keep attempting these grandiose story arc's that only work if you have an established world with established versions of characters that people actually care about. Audience is going to be more invested in Keaton's Batman than any of the actual "main" characters and any possible stakes related to their world.

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Reply #36 posted 08/29/20 12:44am

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They keep attempting these grandiose story arc's that only work if you have an established world with established versions of characters that people actually care about. Audience is going to be more invested in Keaton's Batman than any of the actual "main" characters and any possible stakes related to their world.



Yeah, that's true. DC and WB seem to be trying desperately to make their own Avengers Endgame but what they don't seem to realise is that it took over 10 years and 20 movies to build up to that.
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Reply #37 posted 08/29/20 5:01am

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EmmaMcG said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

They keep attempting these grandiose story arc's that only work if you have an established world with established versions of characters that people actually care about. Audience is going to be more invested in Keaton's Batman than any of the actual "main" characters and any possible stakes related to their world.



Yeah, that's true. DC and WB seem to be trying desperately to make their own Avengers Endgame but what they don't seem to realise is that it took over 10 years and 20 movies to build up to that.


Different strokes for different folks and all...
Some people need 10 years of mediocre to plain awful and bad corny movies to get invested into well known comicbook characters... Others understand these are just popcorn fodder to kill some time and don't need useless details on flimsy characters to understand motives and Hollywood "emotions"...

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Reply #38 posted 08/29/20 5:38am

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Yeah, that's true. DC and WB seem to be trying desperately to make their own Avengers Endgame but what they don't seem to realise is that it took over 10 years and 20 movies to build up to that.


Different strokes for different folks and all...
Some people need 10 years of mediocre to plain awful and bad corny movies to get invested into well known comicbook characters... Others understand these are just popcorn fodder to kill some time and don't need useless details on flimsy characters to understand motives and Hollywood "emotions"...

Neversin.


True, different strokes and all that.

But I'd hardly call some of those Marvel characters "well known" before those movies came out. Guardians of the Galaxy, Black Panther, Hawkeye, Captain Marvel etc were never exactly household names. Captain America and Iron Man were well known in certain circles but the average man on the street wouldn't have really known much about them. So much so that the MCU versions of those characters are now seen as the definitive versions for most people. Whether you like the movies or not is irrelevant. The point is that those movies let you know who these characters are. They gave them a backstory, reasons to invest in them.

The problem with the DCEU is that WB never did that. Everyone knows who Superman and Batman are but not everyone would be too familiar with Cyborg or Aquaman. Just throwing them into a movie and expecting a wide audience who aren't comic book nerds to know who they are or care about them is a big part of what was wrong with Justice League. Obviously, the fact that it was a shit movie is another factor. But even the two big characters we know, Superman and Batman, these were relatively new versions. Ok, Cavill had already had his own movie and was established in the DCEU but Batman wasn't. Outside of a few subtle clues in Dawn of Justice, we never really found out what he was all about. The entire Justice League project would have worked so much better if they had taken the Marvel route of giving each character their own movie so audiences could get to know them and be familiarised with these new versions of them. And in the meantime, Zack Snyder or whoever could have used the extra time to put together a movie that was worthwhile.
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Reply #39 posted 08/29/20 7:03pm

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Different strokes for different folks and all... Some people need 10 years of mediocre to plain awful and bad corny movies to get invested into well known comicbook characters... Others understand these are just popcorn fodder to kill some time and don't need useless details on flimsy characters to understand motives and Hollywood "emotions"... Neversin.

Or rather, some have read comic books their entire life and are letting their enhanced familiarity with these stories/characters/motives temper their understanding/enjoyment of what Hollywood puts on the screen...

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Reply #40 posted 08/31/20 4:30am

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EmmaMcG said:

Neversin said:
Different strokes for different folks and all... Some people need 10 years of mediocre to plain awful and bad corny movies to get invested into well known comicbook characters... Others understand these are just popcorn fodder to kill some time and don't need useless details on flimsy characters to understand motives and Hollywood "emotions"... Neversin.
True, different strokes and all that. But I'd hardly call some of those Marvel characters "well known" before those movies came out. Guardians of the Galaxy, Black Panther, Hawkeye, Captain Marvel etc were never exactly household names. Captain America and Iron Man were well known in certain circles but the average man on the street wouldn't have really known much about them. So much so that the MCU versions of those characters are now seen as the definitive versions for most people. Whether you like the movies or not is irrelevant. The point is that those movies let you know who these characters are. They gave them a backstory, reasons to invest in them. The problem with the DCEU is that WB never did that. Everyone knows who Superman and Batman are but not everyone would be too familiar with Cyborg or Aquaman. Just throwing them into a movie and expecting a wide audience who aren't comic book nerds to know who they are or care about them is a big part of what was wrong with Justice League. Obviously, the fact that it was a shit movie is another factor. But even the two big characters we know, Superman and Batman, these were relatively new versions. Ok, Cavill had already had his own movie and was established in the DCEU but Batman wasn't. Outside of a few subtle clues in Dawn of Justice, we never really found out what he was all about. The entire Justice League project would have worked so much better if they had taken the Marvel route of giving each character their own movie so audiences could get to know them and be familiarised with these new versions of them. And in the meantime, Zack Snyder or whoever could have used the extra time to put together a movie that was worthwhile. [Edited 8/29/20 5:53am]


Partly agree with both of you. I think what DC did was interesting, just introduce characters to people who never heard of them and then later flesh them out. Plus those movies have much more weight to it than the Marvel movies.
I love the Marvel movies except for the last 2 Avengers movies and Captain Marvel that I think were just really bad and boring movies, but those Marvel movies have a (I think deliberate) cheesy undertone that's really not needed in DC movies and honestly I couldn't care less about most of the Avenger's (Like useless Black Widow and Hawkeye, that whole scene with them "fighting" in the last one for that soul stone was some heavy eye rolling and corny shit.) or those useless Thor and Loki characters. I still see those Marvel movies more aimed at kids and those DC movies, obiously, not.

I don't blame Snyder for BvS's not to great story only WB. Snyder wanted to make Man of Steel 2 but WB demanded Batman in the movie becuase of MoS's disappoining boxoffice.
What Snyder did with the characters is cool with me, if comicbook writers are allowed to make up anything about the characters then so can moviemakers. In the case of Batman it's pretty obvious that this Batman is a bitter old broken Batman (even Alfred noticed that and even commented on it in the movie) who just doesn;t care anymore and has became and executioner, I like that even tho it goes completely against his code but I think that's the entire point.

But anyway, just saw Tenet yesterday and what a great movie that was and after seeing that I have 0 doubts that Robert Pattinson will kill it as The Batman. That guy was awesome in Tenet.

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Reply #41 posted 08/31/20 10:13am

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Batman smells.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #42 posted 08/31/20 10:46pm

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To Emma,thanks for telling me that Injustice 2 has a story mode.I have had the game since It was released and I have never known about it.I started playing it today and it is awesome.Wonder if a Injustice 3 is coming out soon?
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Reply #43 posted 08/31/20 11:18pm

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Batman smells.


Duly noted and thank you for your (as usual) useless input.

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Reply #44 posted 09/01/20 12:20am

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To Emma,thanks for telling me that Injustice 2 has a story mode.I have had the game since It was released and I have never known about it.I started playing it today and it is awesome.Wonder if a Injustice 3 is coming out soon?


No problem. I'm useless at fighting games so I just watched the cutscenes on YouTube as if it were a movie.
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Reply #45 posted 09/01/20 12:40am

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To Emma,thanks for telling me that Injustice 2 has a story mode.I have had the game since It was released and I have never known about it.I started playing it today and it is awesome.Wonder if a Injustice 3 is coming out soon?
No problem. I'm useless at fighting games so I just watched the cutscenes on YouTube as if it were a movie.


Still need to make some time to play that one.

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Reply #46 posted 09/09/20 5:20pm

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I'd rather see Flash in his own solo film. Just like Superman in Man of Steel, Wonder Woman, Aquaman and Shazam By adding Batmen Newton and Affleck it feels gimmicky imo.
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Reply #47 posted 09/10/20 10:30pm

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Started the Spiderman PS4 game last night.The graphics are great and I actually feel like I am Spiderman when I am playing.
Anyone play the new avengers game yet?
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Reply #48 posted 09/11/20 12:41am

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Started the Spiderman PS4 game last night.The graphics are great and I actually feel like I am Spiderman when I am playing.
Anyone play the new avengers game yet?


I tried the demo and I thought the first part was ok but it got kind of boring very quickly. It's also extremely difficult. I had it on easy and I was still getting killed every few minutes. Maybe I'm just bad at it though.

I suppose if you like those kinds of online multiplayer games you'll like The Avengers but it's not for me.
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Reply #49 posted 09/12/20 8:31am

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To Emma,thanks for telling me that Injustice 2 has a story mode.I have had the game since It was released and I have never known about it.I started playing it today and it is awesome.Wonder if a Injustice 3 is coming out soon?
No problem. I'm useless at fighting games so I just watched the cutscenes on YouTube as if it were a movie.

What about Mortal Kombat or Tekken?

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Reply #50 posted 09/12/20 11:43am

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uPtoWnNY said:



EmmaMcG said:


Phase3 said:
To Emma,thanks for telling me that Injustice 2 has a story mode.I have had the game since It was released and I have never known about it.I started playing it today and it is awesome.Wonder if a Injustice 3 is coming out soon?

No problem. I'm useless at fighting games so I just watched the cutscenes on YouTube as if it were a movie.


What about Mortal Kombat or Tekken?



No, those kinds of games are of no interest to me at all. I remember playing Street Fighter with my then 6 year old brother and he would beat me every time. The only fighting game I've ever been any good at was a game called Dead Or Alive on the 3DS.
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