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EmmaMcG

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The Flash movie - Batfleck Returns

There's been several threads in the past regarding the DCEU so I figured why not make a new one to discuss what will hopefully be an upturn in quality going forward.

So, it's been confirmed that not only is Ben Affleck returning to his role as Batman for The Flash movie but we're ALSO getting the return of Michael Keaton as Batman. In the same movie!! Michael Keaton apparently has a multi film deal to essentially be the DCEU version of Nick Fury so he can mentor Batgirl and appear in Flash sequels. Ben Affleck will likely only be appearing in an extended cameo to set up the whole time travel storyline but it's still nice to see him back.

According to rumours on the internet, the story goes that The Flash will go back in time to the early 90s to save his mother but accidentally crosses over into Tim Burton's Batman universe where he encounters Michael Keaton. Upon his return to the present, he finds himself still in Tim Burton's universe where Bruce Wayne is now retired but acts as his mentor going forward. If that is the direction they're going then I'm fully on board with it. Especially if they bring back the Danny Elfman Batman theme.

There's also been a bunch of hints that other characters from past DC movies could appear so fingers crossed for a short Christopher Reeve Superman cameo. I don't normally like the idea of digitally recreating dead actors but I'd be ok with a fly-by appearance from the real Superman.
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Reply #1 posted 08/22/20 6:00pm

uPtoWnNY

It's based on the alternate timeline "Flashpoint" story from 2011.

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Reply #2 posted 08/22/20 7:15pm

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When all is said and done I know I will be disappointed in the end sad

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Reply #3 posted 08/22/20 11:19pm

Phase3

Hope the OP is ok with this.I figured it would be ok since we are on the subject of Batman already.
Feast your eyes on THIS

https://youtu.be/90j19Cl8QCk
[Edited 8/22/20 23:20pm]
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Reply #4 posted 08/23/20 1:51am

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Phase3 said:

Hope the OP is ok with this.I figured it would be ok since we are on the subject of Batman already.
Feast your eyes on THIS

https://youtu.be/90j19Cl8QCk
[Edited 8/22/20 23:20pm]


I really don't like the look of this. I want to like this movie but everything I see from it puts me off.
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Reply #5 posted 08/23/20 1:53am

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uPtoWnNY said:

It's based on the alternate timeline "Flashpoint" story from 2011.



True but it's got some pretty big differences. No Thomas Wayne for one. Which I always thought was stupid anyway.
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Reply #6 posted 08/23/20 1:55am

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kpowers said:

When all is said and done I know I will be disappointed in the end sad



Oh it will more than likely turn out to be shit like all the others but at least they have two grown men playing Batman and not some emo kid in a bad Halloween costume like the new Batman movie.
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Reply #7 posted 08/23/20 3:59am

uPtoWnNY

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When all is said and done I know I will be disappointed in the end sad

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Thanks to the idiots at WB, the DCEU is fucked beyond repair.

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Reply #8 posted 08/23/20 6:01am

EmmaMcG

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uPtoWnNY said:



kpowers said:


When all is said and done I know I will be disappointed in the end sad




nod



Thanks to the idiots at WB, the DCEU is fucked beyond repair.



Not necessarily. I mean it's POSSIBLE that The Flash movie could be used as a sort of reset for the entire DCEU so they could pick and choose what worked and ignore what didn't in future movies without having to worry about affecting the continuity. The multiverse idea is good for that.

Now, I have zero confidence in WB that they'll actually pull it off but technically speaking, it could be fixed. Even though, as you say, it probably won't be. After all, this is the company who ruined their Superman series by firing Richard Donner, ruined their Batman series by firing Tim Burton and ruined their own DCEU by firing Zack Snyder, hiring an outside editor to edit the final cut of Suicide Squad, completely botched the Justice League movie and thought it would be a good idea to release that horrible Shazam movie.

So yeah, they'll probably fuck up The Flash as well but on the off chance that they don't, it has the potential to be at least an entertaining movie. Plus, with Michael Keaton coming back we're one step closer to that live action Batman Beyond movie I've always wanted.
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Reply #9 posted 08/23/20 8:04am

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uPtoWnNY said:

kpowers said:

When all is said and done I know I will be disappointed in the end sad

nod

Thanks to the idiots at WB, the DCEU is fucked beyond repair.


At least we're getting the Snydercut... Can't be as bad as Buffy Whedon's and WB's version...


https://youtu.be/z6512XKKNkU

This teaser already looks better than Buffy's version with that plastic toy Steppenwolf he put in it...

Neversin.

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Reply #10 posted 08/23/20 8:18am

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Phase3 said:

Hope the OP is ok with this.I figured it would be ok since we are on the subject of Batman already. Feast your eyes on THIS https://youtu.be/90j19Cl8QCk [Edited 8/22/20 23:20pm]



Awesome teaser and it looks like it's going to be a good and "fun" (on Batman terms) movie and rival Nolan's trilogy... This movie looks grimey (or "grungy" given the music used in the teaser...) and if it'll become a trilogy we'll have two solid "real world" Elseworlds Batman trilogies with proper actors...
I really hope the Flash movie will round out Keaton's run as Batman so he'll have his own, sort of, trilogy... So then we'll have three good to great Elseworlds Batman trilogies with (the only) great actors portraying him instead of these moron and fuck awful moviestars who played him in extremely shitty movies... (Affleck is a fluke him being shit actor (but great director) in some good DC movies...)
But still wishing for a proper DCEU "Batman" movie with Affleck's stuntman...
Hopefully "The Snydercut" will be succesfull and "The Ayercut" of "Suicide Squad" will follow...

Neversin.

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Reply #11 posted 08/23/20 11:40am

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uPtoWnNY said:

kpowers said:

When all is said and done I know I will be disappointed in the end sad

nod

Thanks to the idiots at WB, the DCEU is fucked beyond repair.

And let's not forget about the folks over at the CW for fucking up DC as well (And when I say folks I'm talking about Greg Berlanti)

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Reply #12 posted 08/23/20 11:43am

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EmmaMcG said:

kpowers said:

When all is said and done I know I will be disappointed in the end sad

Oh it will more than likely turn out to be shit like all the others but at least they have two grown men playing Batman and not some emo kid in a bad Halloween costume like the new Batman movie.

Bad casting fof the Flash. It's sad that the TV show has a better Flash costume then the big budget movie confuse

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Reply #13 posted 08/23/20 12:37pm

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Andy Muschietti Says 'Flash' Standalone Movie Will Travel Through ...

Just horrible looking costume

Why can't I watch The Flash on Netflix? - Quora

TV Show better

The Flash: Actors who played the DC character in various TV series ...

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Reply #14 posted 08/23/20 1:21pm

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uPtoWnNY said:

kpowers said:

When all is said and done I know I will be disappointed in the end sad

nod

Thanks to the idiots at WB, the DCEU is fucked beyond repair.

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Reply #15 posted 08/24/20 12:59am

JorisE73

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EmmaMcG said:

kpowers said: Oh it will more than likely turn out to be shit like all the others but at least they have two grown men playing Batman and not some emo kid in a bad Halloween costume like the new Batman movie.

Bad casting fof the Flash. It's sad that the TV show has a better Flash costume then the big budget movie confuse


Different tastes. I like the mnovie suit version much better than the horrible and cheap looking tv show suit.

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Reply #16 posted 08/24/20 1:06am

JorisE73

Neversin said:

Phase3 said:

Hope the OP is ok with this.I figured it would be ok since we are on the subject of Batman already. Feast your eyes on THIS https://youtu.be/90j19Cl8QCk [Edited 8/22/20 23:20pm]



Awesome teaser and it looks like it's going to be a good and "fun" (on Batman terms) movie and rival Nolan's trilogy... This movie looks grimey (or "grungy" given the music used in the teaser...) and if it'll become a trilogy we'll have two solid "real world" Elseworlds Batman trilogies with proper actors...
I really hope the Flash movie will round out Keaton's run as Batman so he'll have his own, sort of, trilogy... So then we'll have three good to great Elseworlds Batman trilogies with (the only) great actors portraying him instead of these moron and fuck awful moviestars who played him in extremely shitty movies... (Affleck is a fluke him being shit actor (but great director) in some good DC movies...)
But still wishing for a proper DCEU "Batman" movie with Affleck's stuntman...
Hopefully "The Snydercut" will be succesfull and "The Ayercut" of "Suicide Squad" will follow...

Neversin.


I like Affleck's Batman and that new one looks brutal.
I hear alot of complains about his emo look but people don;t seem to know it's Batman "year 2" and he's a young kid/guy just starting out as the Batman.
I get a Hush, Long Halloween vibe from the trailer and rumours have it it will be about 'The Court of Owls' (like the new Gotham Knights videogame) I'm very curious and love everything shown so far on The Batman.

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Reply #17 posted 08/24/20 3:10am

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JorisE73 said:

kpowers said:

Bad casting fof the Flash. It's sad that the TV show has a better Flash costume then the big budget movie confuse


Different tastes. I like the mnovie suit version much better than the horrible and cheap looking tv show suit.

bored

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Reply #18 posted 08/24/20 4:10am

JorisE73

kpowers said:

JorisE73 said:


Different tastes. I like the mnovie suit version much better than the horrible and cheap looking tv show suit.

bored


You may be bored by my comment but the beauty of DC comics is that DC or any writer for them can create anything about any character and there will be an audience for it. You like what you like and I like what I like, no harm in this. It's not a competition. Just be glad that you can sift through hundreds of different takes on characters and find something you like. Nothing is canon and at the same time evrything is canon (if you're into that kind of things). thumbs up!
It's like with Marvel, I don't like any of the last movies, but enjoy the first ones a lot, no harm my life wink

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Reply #19 posted 08/24/20 5:51am

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JorisE73 said:



kpowers said:




EmmaMcG said:


kpowers said: Oh it will more than likely turn out to be shit like all the others but at least they have two grown men playing Batman and not some emo kid in a bad Halloween costume like the new Batman movie.

Bad casting fof the Flash. It's sad that the TV show has a better Flash costume then the big budget movie confuse




Different tastes. I like the mnovie suit version much better than the horrible and cheap looking tv show suit.



I don't like either but then I don't really like the character in general. The movie suit looks like a dodgy Iron Man costume and the tv show one looks like some guy wearing fancy pyjamas.

The concept art they showed from the upcoming solo movie looks better though.
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Reply #20 posted 08/24/20 9:15am

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EmmaMcG said:

JorisE73 said:


Different tastes. I like the mnovie suit version much better than the horrible and cheap looking tv show suit.

I don't like either but then I don't really like the character in general. The movie suit looks like a dodgy Iron Man costume and the tv show one looks like some guy wearing fancy pyjamas. The concept art they showed from the upcoming solo movie looks better though.

Exactly, what's up with that. Movie one is just horrible barf . The TV show Flash has gotten better over the years

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Reply #21 posted 08/24/20 9:33pm

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The rumor is that Ben Affleck's Batman will die in the movie -probably to save the day.

99.9% of everything I say is strictly for my own entertainment
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Reply #22 posted 08/25/20 12:39am

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The rumor is that Ben Affleck's Batman will die in the movie -probably to save the day.


That was the plan. He would die in Justice League Part 3.

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kewlschool said:

The rumor is that Ben Affleck's Batman will die in the movie -probably to save the day.



It makes sense and is probably best for all parties involved. Besides, now that Keaton is back, Affleck is not really needed as a mentor type to The Flash and Batgirl and whoever else.
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Reply #24 posted 08/25/20 6:23am

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EmmaMcG said:

kewlschool said:

The rumor is that Ben Affleck's Batman will die in the movie -probably to save the day.

It makes sense and is probably best for all parties involved. Besides, now that Keaton is back, Affleck is not really needed as a mentor type to The Flash and Batgirl and whoever else.


I thnk they said Affleck's Batman is the standard 'Batman' for The Flash and the guy who will give him his new suit and all.

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Reply #25 posted 08/25/20 8:47am

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JorisE73 said:



EmmaMcG said:


kewlschool said:

The rumor is that Ben Affleck's Batman will die in the movie -probably to save the day.



It makes sense and is probably best for all parties involved. Besides, now that Keaton is back, Affleck is not really needed as a mentor type to The Flash and Batgirl and whoever else.


I thnk they said Affleck's Batman is the standard 'Batman' for The Flash and the guy who will give him his new suit and all.



Yeah and I'm betting it's that new suit which allows him to travel back in time to meet Michael Keaton. Because superhero logic. Then, once he's crossed over to the Burton universe he either stays there or Keaton travels back with him to the "Snyder-verse". When Keaton was just in talks for the role, word was that The Flash would be stuck in the Burton universe but who knows how true these rumours are. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see.

An interesting quote I seen from the director suggested multiple Batmen other than Affleck. So we know about Michael Keaton but I wonder if we'll get cameos from anyone else? Val Kilmer, perhaps? I know he can't speak anymore but he wouldn't have to if it's only a short cameo. Or they could get Kevin Conroy to dub him. I imagine Clooney is probably out given how utterly terrible he was though. Christian Bale probably wouldn't be interested and honestly, I wouldn't be interested in seeing him back either. Maybe Pattinson could cameo though to tie in his movie with the multi verse thing they're going for.

The DC FanDome thing had clips of all sorts when they were discussing possible cameos. Watchmen, Superman even that Keanu Reeves Constantine movie I forgot existed. Just as long as they don't forget that they're making a Flash movie and instead stuff it full of cameos.
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Reply #26 posted 08/25/20 5:38pm

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EmmaMcG said:

JorisE73 said:



EmmaMcG said:


kewlschool said:

The rumor is that Ben Affleck's Batman will die in the movie -probably to save the day.



It makes sense and is probably best for all parties involved. Besides, now that Keaton is back, Affleck is not really needed as a mentor type to The Flash and Batgirl and whoever else.


I thnk they said Affleck's Batman is the standard 'Batman' for The Flash and the guy who will give him his new suit and all.



Yeah and I'm betting it's that new suit which allows him to travel back in time to meet Michael Keaton. Because superhero logic. Then, once he's crossed over to the Burton universe he either stays there or Keaton travels back with him to the "Snyder-verse". When Keaton was just in talks for the role, word was that The Flash would be stuck in the Burton universe but who knows how true these rumours are. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see.

An interesting quote I seen from the director suggested multiple Batmen other than Affleck. So we know about Michael Keaton but I wonder if we'll get cameos from anyone else? Val Kilmer, perhaps? I know he can't speak anymore but he wouldn't have to if it's only a short cameo. Or they could get Kevin Conroy to dub him. I imagine Clooney is probably out given how utterly terrible he was though. Christian Bale probably wouldn't be interested and honestly, I wouldn't be interested in seeing him back either. Maybe Pattinson could cameo though to tie in his movie with the multi verse thing they're going for.

The DC FanDome thing had clips of all sorts when they were discussing possible cameos. Watchmen, Superman even that Keanu Reeves Constantine movie I forgot existed. Just as long as they don't forget that they're making a Flash movie and instead stuff it full of cameos.

Kinda sounds like those bad CW crossover episodes which is more about cameos than story
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JorisE73 said:

EmmaMcG said:

kewlschool said: It makes sense and is probably best for all parties involved. Besides, now that Keaton is back, Affleck is not really needed as a mentor type to The Flash and Batgirl and whoever else.


I thnk they said Affleck's Batman is the standard 'Batman' for The Flash and the guy who will give him his new suit and all.

If the Snyder cut is popular enough. Affleck might want to reprise his role and come back with a justice league 2. (It all depends how popular the Snyder cut becomes. I myself think it will be good and not great. Which is a step up.). Affleck could still die in the flash movie because we don't know when in the time line Affleck went to another universe. Which means Affleck could still be batman in justice league 2 if need be. OR Keaton moves to the Snyder universe and mentors a new batman or Nightwing. I believe Keaton has a multiple movie contract. Which means that Keaton moves to the snyder universe more apt to happen. Which means we get Nightwing!

[Edited 8/25/20 22:24pm]

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Reply #28 posted 08/25/20 11:17pm

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What do you all think of the new Batman game called "Gotham Knights"? Here is a link for the trailer
https://youtu.be/IhVf_3TeTQE

I haven't played a Batman game since Arkham asylum because those games are a bit too difficult for me and i get stuck at certain stages but i might give this one a shot.The thought of playing as knightwing is very cool to me.
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Reply #29 posted 08/26/20 12:29am

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Phase3 said:

What do you all think of the new Batman game called "Gotham Knights"? Here is a link for the trailer
https://youtu.be/IhVf_3TeTQE

I haven't played a Batman game since Arkham asylum because those games are a bit too difficult for me and i get stuck at certain stages but i might give this one a shot.The thought of playing as knightwing is very cool to me.


I loved the Arkham games. They were some of the first games I ever played but like you, I found them to be quite difficult in places. Even on the easiest difficulty setting. I don't like the look of Gotham Knights though. Admittedly, I don't know much about it but it looks like one of those multiplayer games. My brother works for a video game company and he sends me loads of free games. One of them was a game called The Division 2. He told me I could play it all single player so I tried it but I hated it. Yeah, it's possible to play it by yourself but you'd want to be some kind of videogame professional to stand a chance. That's the same vibe I get from Gotham Knights. Which is a shame because I'd like to play a whole game as Batgirl but if I'm being punished for not playing with other people then I'm not interested.

There was also a Suicide Squad game announced. And that looks even worse.
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