SantanaMaitreya said:

EmmaMcG said:

I loved the ending. It needed to be violent. SPOILER ALERT. This movie is pure fantasy, hence the name. It's not just a cheeky homage to Once Upon A Time In The West. It's basically Tarantino's fairytale ending. Righting a wrong of real life. Those people were scum. They deserved the ending Tarantino gave them.

Yeah, but... Three hippies... They're just not as dangerous as The Crazy 88 or a sadistic plantation owner or a Jew hunting Nazi, right? And because of all of those films, I already knew that QT was going to give history his own spin, so the ending wasn't much of a surprise and it wasn't very exciting either. This film was his love letter to Hollywood and I like that, but I can't say that I really felt satisfied with the ending. Killing Hitler or killing a slave owner feels like some sort of justice, like it's the way things should have happened, but pretending that Sharon Tate and the fictional movie star lived happily ever after... I don't know how I feel about that. The best parts of the movie were those when Leo played his cowboy roles, because then you could tell that QT is really in love with the western genre.

Agree with Emma. Plus QT's fantastic rendering (without CG) of LA in the late 60s was nothing short of phenomenal. Oscar well-deserved.


True, QT does loves his TV and spaghetti westerns. However, those "hippies" that the characters represented in the film in real life were brutal, heartless, cold-blooded killers and those murders terrorized the city and almost single-handedly destroyed the image of the peace and love flower power hippies of the day. Not sure about anyone else here, but my theater burst out in cheers as each one of them was blasted away. Is it just an LA thing?



Read Helter Skelter and get back to us

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DiminutiveRocker said:

SantanaMaitreya said:

Yeah, but... Three hippies... They're just not as dangerous as The Crazy 88 or a sadistic plantation owner or a Jew hunting Nazi, right? And because of all of those films, I already knew that QT was going to give history his own spin, so the ending wasn't much of a surprise and it wasn't very exciting either. This film was his love letter to Hollywood and I like that, but I can't say that I really felt satisfied with the ending. Killing Hitler or killing a slave owner feels like some sort of justice, like it's the way things should have happened, but pretending that Sharon Tate and the fictional movie star lived happily ever after... I don't know how I feel about that. The best parts of the movie were those when Leo played his cowboy roles, because then you could tell that QT is really in love with the western genre.

Agree with Emma. Plus QT's fantastic rendering (without CG) of LA in the late 60s was nothing short of phenomenal. Oscar well-deserved.


True, QT does loves his TV and spaghetti westerns. However, those "hippies" that the characters represented in the film in real life were brutal, heartless, cold-blooded killers and those murders terrorized the city and almost single-handedly destroyed the image of the peace and love flower power hippies of the day. Not sure about anyone else here, but my theater burst out in cheers as each one of them was blasted away. Is it just an LA thing?



Read Helter Skelter and get back to us

[Edited 6/29/20 15:24pm]

Sharon Tate was eight months pregnant when she was stabbed 16 times by hippies who were "not as dangerous" or "not as sadistic". So for me, yes, having her and her unborn child survive at the end of the movie did feel like some sort of justice.

Vice (2018)

Movie about Vice President Dick Cheney written and direted by Adam McKay. I remember the events from 9/11 very clearly and if this version of history is accurate, it's very disturbing. There's so much to unpack here that I'm not going to get into, there's just a lot. Tthere were some big facts they didn't inlcude but a movie can only be so long.

I'm not going to go into the politics but as a film that both entertained and educated, this was excellent. The way facts are explained is what makes the movie so interesting and kept me entertained (feel weird even saying that given the topic).

Christian Bale is on another level as Cheney (he gained 40 lbs for the role) and Amy Adams, Steve Carell, Sam Rockwell were all brilliant. Christian Bale thanked Satan for inspiring him to play the role of Cheney when he won the Golden Globe. LOL!


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sexton said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

Agree with Emma. Plus QT's fantastic rendering (without CG) of LA in the late 60s was nothing short of phenomenal. Oscar well-deserved.


True, QT does loves his TV and spaghetti westerns. However, those "hippies" that the characters represented in the film in real life were brutal, heartless, cold-blooded killers and those murders terrorized the city and almost single-handedly destroyed the image of the peace and love flower power hippies of the day. Not sure about anyone else here, but my theater burst out in cheers as each one of them was blasted away. Is it just an LA thing?



Read Helter Skelter and get back to us

[Edited 6/29/20 15:24pm]

Sharon Tate was eight months pregnant when she was stabbed 16 times by hippies who were "not as dangerous" or "not as sadistic". So for me, yes, having her and her unborn child survive at the end of the movie did feel like some sort of justice.

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sexton said:

À bout de souffle / Breathless (1960) - A small-time thief steals a car and impulsively murders a motorcycle policeman. Wanted by the authorities, he reunites with a hip American journalism student and attempts to persuade her to run away with him to Italy.

I decided to watch my favorite film again since Jean Seberg's character here is an extension of her role in the last film I saw, Bonjour Tristesse. This is French New Wave at its absolute best. 5/5

Agreed.

DiminutiveRocker said:

SantanaMaitreya said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

Agree with Emma. Plus QT's fantastic rendering (without CG) of LA in the late 60s was nothing short of phenomenal. Oscar well-deserved.


True, QT does loves his TV and spaghetti westerns. However, those "hippies" that the characters represented in the film in real life were brutal, heartless, cold-blooded killers and those murders terrorized the city and almost single-handedly destroyed the image of the peace and love flower power hippies of the day. Not sure about anyone else here, but my theater burst out in cheers as each one of them was blasted away. Is it just an LA thing?



Read Helter Skelter and get back to us

[Edited 6/29/20 15:24pm]

No, it's not an LA thing, the same happened in Amsterdam. And yes, of course I know those hippies were killers, I'm just saying that after a few films of turning history upside down, it's not surprising anymore. I remember that at the Cannes film festival, he begged all the journaliste to not reveal the ending, but still, you could see it coming. I agree about how he made Hollywood look. It was fantastic! [Edited 6/29/20 23:48pm]

The Manson Family was in Amersterdam?

I knew the ending would have a twist - but I did not see coming exactly what came: that they would choose the other house; that Tate and the other houseguests would not be involved whatsoever -

Ella Fitzgerald: Just One of Those Things (2020)

While clearly derivative in style of Ken Burns' Jazz, this biopic covers very deeply, and very fairly, the triumphs and troubles of one of the greatest singers the United States has ever produced and her legacy in music. It makes the argument that Ella actually saved the "Great American Songbook" with a series of hit albums.

But Ella was the star of the film, with her musical genius. She could have been a great MC if she'd been born later. But what a voice and what a mind for music she had.


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DiminutiveRocker said:

RJP1205 said:

The Wrong Missy... cute, fun comedy. I'm not a huge David Spade fan but he was likeable in this. Lots of laughs in this one. Lots of "F" bombs, could've done without but overall a fun movie.

I heard Spade promote that on Stern - the premise sounded cute. Thanks for the tip~