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Thread started 03/09/20 9:43pm

liljojo

Health is Wealth Part 1: Fighting to Die but Dying to live

It's been said time and time again "Child you're so skinny, you need some meat on your bones." or "Baby you getting big you need to get on the floor and roll." Those lines may be new to some and old to others but within those two lines some people are hurt because they are either too skinny or too fat. But in today's wild we are told that being too fat (Obese) or too skinny (anorexia) is to be celebrited and encouraged as body positivity. When in term both obesity and aneroxia are two serious health conditions that cost extreme health issues.



Anorexia is being used to make humans believe being extremely under weight to keep a flat stomach is the definition of a healthy person. This is not true as some of us know as aneroxia can cause gastroparesis, neurological disorder, endocrine disorder, and other health consequences. This is not to be confused with body type ectomorph people, as they're usually long and lean with a fast metabolism but they are within healthy body weight. This is about unhealthy body weight people are too skinny until their skeletal is very visible and their body is breaking down.



Obesity is also being celebrated as something to being praised and encouraged as body positivity. There's nothing positive about having excessive body fat that can lead to health disorders like heart attacks, diabetes 1 or 2, gout, strokes, apnea and asthma, gastrointestine disorders, cancer, osteoarthritis, and other health complications. This is not talking about people with the body type mesomorph, as they can be lean and muscular simultaneously. This is about people that's so big they can't get out of bed without several people helping them, i.e. my 600lbs life.



The reason I named this fighting to die but dying to live is because that's exactly what we are doing to ourselves when we ignore the warning signs our bodies give us. People will become very dramatic when you tell them about their unhealthy decisions and call it body shaming, fatphobia, skinny shaming, and fat shaming. They will fight you if you say eat more fruits and vegetables, watch your calorie intake, excercise more, be more active, stop eating parts of the pig, or even slow down your drug and alcohol intake. But these seem people will partake in fast food constantly, over excessively eating sweets, skipping meals, forcing themselves to vomit, drinking several bottles of wine and liquor, and making unhealthy decisions in the name of having fun. Then when they get older their bodies are so worn down until they have early deaths or slow painful deaths.



So how can we as a community help each other and encourage each other about having healthy bodyweight and not celebrate and encourage unhealthy weight loss or gain? How can we start putting our feelings aside and start accepting honesty? How can we be more understanding and logical about taking care our health so we can live life to it's fullest?



I personally believe we can start with teaching willing people about the three body types (Ectomorph, Endomorph, and Mesomorph), that way they can understand which body type they are and build a eating and exercise regiment around their body type.



It's not shaming or a phobia if it saves your life.

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Reply #1 posted 03/10/20 6:46am

maplenpg

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I'd like to see much more importance placed on the mental health of the morbidly obese and the anorexic communities. I'd also like to see a ban placed on the total number of fast food outlets allowed within a certain radius. I'm not into body shaming at all. It's not helpful - most fat people know they are fat, no need to tell them. Most anorexics know they don't eat enough, no need to tell them. It's not as easy as telling people what they need to do and then expecting them to do it.

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Reply #2 posted 03/10/20 12:31pm

liljojo

maplenpg said:

I'd like to see much more importance placed on the mental health of the morbidly obese and the anorexic communities. I'd also like to see a ban placed on the total number of fast food outlets allowed within a certain radius. I'm not into body shaming at all. It's not helpful - most fat people know they are fat, no need to tell them. Most anorexics know they don't eat enough, no need to tell them. It's not as easy as telling people what they need to do and then expecting them to do it.




I was going to say something about mental health and bullying but I want to give everyone else a chance. You already know I can type of book lol from my last threads.



My neighbors and I was talking about this in late december at our HOA community meeting. A lot of people we complaining about the food truck events we have and how little healthy food choices we have at the events. The weight condition came up because a person died due to lack of oxygen. They couldn't fit her in a ambulance and ended up having to get a huge uhaul truck and 8 people to help carry out the hole they cut out the room wall from outside because she couldn't fit through the doors of the home. Then we had another person die, from malnutrition at the high school down the road because she was trying to stay model size her mom side. We had another guy, nice dude, die from epicardial adipose tissue. I guess his hit me the hardest because the guys and me finally had him coming out playing sports and working out with us a couple of months ago. But he said he was watching the news and saw plus size people being models on Instagram and making money. So he went back to eating 7-8 times a day and passed away in November.



What I did see with him is that people need genuine caring and help with honesty. As long as we was honest with him in a caring way and included him a lot in our workouts, brothahood nights, and just checked on him and appreciated him for him he was doing well. But I also saw where TV and social media encouraging unhealthy lifestyles can be life or death for some people fighting their temptations.



Like you said though map, fast food restaurants need to have a limit on how many they can have within miles of each other. We have 5 McDonald's within 0.2 - 1 mile of each other with 2 popeyes, 3 KFC's, 2 Chick Fil A's, 3 Burger Kings and Taco Bell's, 4 Pizza Hut's 2 miles from each other, 3 Papa John's and Domino's with Subway within the same plaza. Don't get me started with Krispy Kreme's and Dunkin Donut's along with Jeremiah's and Ice cream spots. Then you have the KFC chicken donut sandwich and we have a restaurant that serve burger donuts next to BurgerFi and Culver's and Checkers/Rally's across the road with Wendy's.




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Reply #3 posted 03/10/20 3:32pm

slyjackson

Nothing much to add, but in this case I think you're totally right. The way I see things it's not much about celebrating unhealthy lifestyles , but more about respect others, and respect those who don't fit into the norm, don' allow other to disrespect you, mistreat you or shame you just becaues of your type of body, however letting you know that your lifestyle it's not healthy and that you need to take matters into your own hands.

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Reply #4 posted 03/11/20 5:13am

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slyjackson said:

Nothing much to add, but in this case I think you're totally right. The way I see things it's not much about celebrating unhealthy lifestyles , but more about respect others, and respect those who don't fit into the norm, don' allow other to disrespect you, mistreat you or shame you just becaues of your type of body, however letting you know that your lifestyle it's not healthy and that you need to take matters into your own hands.

I agree with all of this but the bold. It's just not as simple as that. Yes of course, ultimately it's down to the individual, but when there are a plethora of fast food joints at every turn, and when unhealthy food is so cheap, and when people are becoming addicted to sugar and fat, and when people are stressed to the max, then eating healthily is much more difficult than it should be. And losing weight is hard, it's much easier to turn a blind eye to how unhealthy it is and just keep on scoffing.

I also know a lot of people who are a healthy weight who drink an unhealthy amount of alcohol every night, or those that smoke as they say it keeps their appetite down. A healthy weight doesn't always equal a healthy body, that's important too.

My best friend is very overweight, she knows this, and I think I know the reasons why. I would never ever discuss her weight with her unless she wanted to. I don't honestly care what weight she is, she's the most loveliest person on the planet, and that's what matters to me.

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Reply #5 posted 03/11/20 3:55pm

slyjackson

maplenpg said:

slyjackson said:

Nothing much to add, but in this case I think you're totally right. The way I see things it's not much about celebrating unhealthy lifestyles , but more about respect others, and respect those who don't fit into the norm, don' allow other to disrespect you, mistreat you or shame you just becaues of your type of body, however letting you know that your lifestyle it's not healthy and that you need to take matters into your own hands.

I agree with all of this but the bold. It's just not as simple as that. Yes of course, ultimately it's down to the individual, but when there are a plethora of fast food joints at every turn, and when unhealthy food is so cheap, and when people are becoming addicted to sugar and fat, and when people are stressed to the max, then eating healthily is much more difficult than it should be. And losing weight is hard, it's much easier to turn a blind eye to how unhealthy it is and just keep on scoffing.

I also know a lot of people who are a healthy weight who drink an unhealthy amount of alcohol every night, or those that smoke as they say it keeps their appetite down. A healthy weight doesn't always equal a healthy body, that's important too.

My best friend is very overweight, she knows this, and I think I know the reasons why. I would never ever discuss her weight with her unless she wanted to. I don't honestly care what weight she is, she's the most loveliest person on the planet, and that's what matters to me.

You're right there are several factors in play here, and sometimes we just don't know.

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Reply #6 posted 03/20/20 8:26am

PeggyO

There are a number of very overweight, (morbidly obese) who have been sexually abused as children.

Eating is a way to self-soothe and the fat kind of protects from unwanted advances.

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