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BlackMiles

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BLACK FACT OF THE DAY for Tuesday, December 03, 2002

In 1964, Academy Award for best actor of the year presented (April 13) to Sidney Poitier for his performance in Lilies of the Field.
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Reply #1 posted 12/03/02 8:09am

Bren1

If there was a thread " - White Fact of the day" - It would be construed as racist
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Reply #2 posted 12/03/02 8:35am

teacherlady88

Thanks for the info BlackMiles. That's lovely. Ummm, I'm wondering. Through the years, has anything happened on December 3 in the area of Black History?
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Reply #3 posted 12/03/02 8:43am

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I love Sidney Poitier, so very handsome and elegant...

My favorite movie is To Sir With Love...

Thanks for sharing BlackMiles.
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Reply #4 posted 12/03/02 8:53am

mistermaxxx

thank you.Sidney Poitier doesn't even get half the Credit He deserves IMHO.the Guy Broke down so many doors in so many ways&Maintained a Edge too this Day.the Best Line He did was what He said too Denzel Washington about lasting in the Business:if you show too much of yourself Mon-Fri then nobody will want too see you on the Weekends.Make your time count.
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Reply #5 posted 12/03/02 9:25am

NuPwrSoul

Bren1 said:

If there was a thread " - White Fact of the day" - It would be construed as racist


No, if there were a thread that discussed the white fact of the day, it would be typically and arrogantly called "Fact of the Day."

The reason for these and other "Black" facts, television, etc., is the historical exclusion and marginalization of so-called minority ethnic groups from the "mainstream."
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Reply #6 posted 12/03/02 9:41am

BlackandRising

NuPwrSoul said:

Bren1 said:

If there was a thread " - White Fact of the day" - It would be construed as racist


No, if there were a thread that discussed the white fact of the day, it would be typically and arrogantly called "Fact of the Day."

The reason for these and other "Black" facts, television, etc., is the historical exclusion and marginalization of so-called minority ethnic groups from the "mainstream."
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[This message was edited Tue Dec 3 9:25:48 PST 2002 by NuPwrSoul]

Can someone tell me...why is what nupwrsoul stated so hard for some people to understand? Can someone PLEASE enlighten my ass? Is it ignorance? Speaking prior to actually thinking? I mean, damn...
And everyone, please go see Bowling For Columbine. M. Moore goes astray making a few points in the film, but damn...he hit the nail on the head with this one.
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Reply #7 posted 12/03/02 9:59am

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NuPwrSoul said:

Bren1 said:

If there was a thread " - White Fact of the day" - It would be construed as racist


No, if there were a thread that discussed the white fact of the day, it would be typically and arrogantly called "Fact of the Day."

The reason for these and other "Black" facts, television, etc., is the historical exclusion and marginalization of so-called minority ethnic groups from the "mainstream."
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preach it...sheesh the nerve of some people ..it must really rile a certain mentality up whenever color comes into play in their "mainstream" world...you dont hear anyone saying shit about other groups on the fringe so to speak and their posts...
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Reply #8 posted 12/03/02 10:07am

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My take on this is as follows:

Facts are facts, be they black, white, brown, yellow or purple.

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[This message was edited Tue Dec 3 10:07:32 PST 2002 by IceNine]
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Reply #9 posted 12/03/02 10:12am

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IceNine said:

My take on this is as follows:

Facts are facts, be they black, white, brown, yellow or purple.

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[This message was edited Tue Dec 3 10:07:32 PST 2002 by IceNine]


Do you "really" believe this Ice?
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #10 posted 12/03/02 10:14am

BlackandRising

IceNine said:

My take on this is as follows:

Facts are facts, be they black, white, brown, yellow or purple.

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[This message was edited Tue Dec 3 10:07:32 PST 2002 by IceNine]

True, facts are facts. But, as nupwr stated, some facts are intentionally overlooked, buried, misstated, etc. This is quite obvious. And when they are highlighted to help enlighten people as to what else is out there other than what we have been conditioned to believe, some people see it as Bren1 did, which is bullshit to say the least.
This hs hella funny since damn near everything I read or see on a day to day basis is white. Not black, brown, yellow or purple. When they get some brothas and sistas alongside Jennifer Aniston on Friends...I mean, there are other people in NY besides whites aren't there?
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Reply #11 posted 12/03/02 10:17am

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rdhull said:

IceNine said:

My take on this is as follows:

Facts are facts, be they black, white, brown, yellow or purple.

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[This message was edited Tue Dec 3 10:07:32 PST 2002 by IceNine]


Do you "really" believe this Ice?


I certainly do believe it... I also believe that many "facts" are not facts at all, as they have been distorted to fit whatever world-view that suits the historian or reporter.
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Reply #12 posted 12/03/02 10:22am

rdhull

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IceNine said:

rdhull said:

IceNine said:

My take on this is as follows:

Facts are facts, be they black, white, brown, yellow or purple.

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[This message was edited Tue Dec 3 10:07:32 PST 2002 by IceNine]


Do you "really" believe this Ice?


I certainly do believe it... I also believe that many "facts" are not facts at all, as they have been distorted to fit whatever world-view that suits the historian or reporter.


So you feel that facts are equal so to speak, if there can be such a thing? So I am to assume that you feel most things are equal or at least should be..such as facts, slang, etc?
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #13 posted 12/03/02 10:25am

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BlackandRising said:

IceNine said:

My take on this is as follows:

Facts are facts, be they black, white, brown, yellow or purple.

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[This message was edited Tue Dec 3 10:07:32 PST 2002 by IceNine]

True, facts are facts. But, as nupwr stated, some facts are intentionally overlooked, buried, misstated, etc. This is quite obvious. And when they are highlighted to help enlighten people as to what else is out there other than what we have been conditioned to believe, some people see it as Bren1 did, which is bullshit to say the least.
This hs hella funny since damn near everything I read or see on a day to day basis is white. Not black, brown, yellow or purple. When they get some brothas and sistas alongside Jennifer Aniston on Friends...I mean, there are other people in NY besides whites aren't there?


why even fake this...most folks feel a jolt when a black issue, or otherwise fact of the day etc etc is brought into play ( not just here) regardless..and that jolt can be felt by blacks and otherwise as well. This is all part of human-animal behavior and natural...but we are intelligent enough to be able to discuss why these things happen which supposedly separtes us from the animals. Oh well.

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Reply #14 posted 12/03/02 10:27am

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rdhull said:

IceNine said:

rdhull said:

IceNine said:

My take on this is as follows:

Facts are facts, be they black, white, brown, yellow or purple.

edited for quality
[This message was edited Tue Dec 3 10:07:32 PST 2002 by IceNine]


Do you "really" believe this Ice?


I certainly do believe it... I also believe that many "facts" are not facts at all, as they have been distorted to fit whatever world-view that suits the historian or reporter.


So you feel that facts are equal so to speak, if there can be such a thing? So I am to assume that you feel most things are equal or at least should be..such as facts, slang, etc?


I think that facts are facts, but there are biases in how they are presented. Sometimes "facts" are distorted and are no longer facts but are accepted as such by the masses.

I think that all "things" are equal, but the presentation and perceptions are not equal.

Slang doesn't fall within the realms of facts or misrepresentation.
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Reply #15 posted 12/03/02 10:30am

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IceNine said:

I think that all "things" are equal, but the presentation and perceptions are not equal.

Slang doesn't fall within the realms of facts or misrepresentation.


yes I know this..I just wanted your take on it.
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Reply #16 posted 12/03/02 10:31am

Awhiteguynamed
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Bren1 said:

If there was a thread " - White Fact of the day" - It would be construed as racist

then there is club for us brother plese send me priveate org note NAAWP Mission Statement:

The right to speak out is also the duty to speak out!

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To educate and inform white citizens regarding civil matters of law which seek to compromise White rights in favor of minority special interests.
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To provide for a common assembly of meeting and pooling of concerns for white people.
*

To voice and represent the rights for white people to the various levels of government agencies within the United States primarily, but also the international community.

Vision Statement:

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Achieve a credible and recognized standing within the U.S. judicial system, to represent white people [as a class] and others wronged by discriminatory practices and other actions.
*

To bring about a white population knowledgeable of their rights as citizens and restore a sense of pride in their heritage.
*

To foster a spirit of "togetherness", and to enable white people to stand strong as one class of persons - to protect their rights and possessions.
*

To promote an attitude of "Equal Rights for White People" with special favors for NO persons or race.

The NAAWP is a not for profit, non violent, civil rights educational organization, demanding equal rights for whites and special privileges for none. The cost of membership is $35.00 a year. Included in your membership is a subscription to the NAAWP newsletter. The paper contains articles which highlight the problems that we know need to be addressed, and brought to light, e.g., Affirmative Action, white Christian and family values, education, minority hate crimes on whites, minorities in high placed government positions which adversely affect and discriminate against whites, immigration slanted heavily on minority influxes to our nation, and so many more issues that affect the future of you and your family's ability to prosper in this great nation. The newsletter reveals truth, and we suspect that many think that white American people - like in the movie A Few Good Men - can't handle the truth. That is an insult to our intelligence and our right to know and make judgments on facts.
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Reply #17 posted 12/03/02 10:33am

rdhull

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lol this is going to get good!But shouldn't we wait until after the holiday season? Im in a warm fuzzy kind of mood.
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #18 posted 12/03/02 10:33am

2the9s

I'm guessing the above post is plagiarized as well? biggrin





Above but one edit
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Reply #19 posted 12/03/02 10:34am

rdhull

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2the9s said:

I'm guessing the above post is plagiarized as well? biggrin



huh? Mine or Bills?
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Reply #20 posted 12/03/02 10:35am

AzureStar

2the9s said:

I'm guessing the above post is plagiarized as well? biggrin





Above but one edit
[This message was edited Tue Dec 3 10:33:49 PST 2002 by 2the9s]


Taken directly from the NAAWP website I bet!

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Reply #21 posted 12/03/02 10:37am

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The scriptures record that the true worshipers of the Father will worship him in Spirit and Truth. This is very important for Afrikan people to remember during this holiday season.

Every year, our people are bombarded with images of a white baby Jesus, a white Joseph and Mary, white angels, etc. While on the surface this seems like a harmless expression of the "holiday spirit," in reality it serves to reinforce the dominance of Eurocentric Christianity and the brainwashing of Afrikan people. It also hides the fact that what is known as "Christianity" is actually one of the many African religions originating from Northeast Africa, which is misnamed the "Middle East." Most importantly, it tries to hide the fact that the sweet little blue-eyed, blond-haired Jesus child was really Yeshua, the Black Revolutionary Messiah.

Let us first look at the history of what is called Christianity. "Christ" is derived from the Greek word "Christos," which means anointed. The Hebrew word for anointed is translated as "messiah." The word "Jesus" is derived from Greek word Ieosus; in Hebrew the word is Yeshua.

The reason that Greek terms are used instead of the Hebrew has nothing to do with "religion" but rather signal the beginning of white world domination, which can be traced back to the conquest of North Africa by Alexander the so-called Great in 332 BC. It was his goal to "Hellenize" (to make Greek) the world. So when Yeshua (Jesus) was born, that area of Northeast Africa was under European conquest.

So the version of Christianity that spread throughout Europe was the Hellenized version. It must be noted that the religion also spread into parts of the rest of Africa, and that Ethiopia was the first "Christian" country. As the religion spread throughout Europe, it mixed with European culture, white supremacy and European nationalism. Eventually, it failed to remain the religion of the poor and oppressed but instead became a religious force to promote the supremacy of the European, just as Hellenization had promoted the supremacy of Greek culture.

During the 15th and 16th centuries, at the advent of the African Holocaust (slave trade), European artists were commissioned to draw pictures of Europeanized Biblical characters. So the prophets became Europeans and Yeshua, the Black Revolutionary Messiah, whom the Bible describes as having hair like wool and feet like brass, who fought against oppression, became the blue-eyed, blond-haired Jesus Christ, the ambassador of the European domination over all nonwhite people. The theology of African liberation became the theology of white supremacy.

When our ancestors were kidnapped and brought to America, it was not the teachings of Yeshua to which they were exposed but Eurocentric Christianity. Since our people were not allowed to read, they were taught by white missionaries and preachers who told them about a white God, a white Jesus, white prophets and a white heaven. The fact that "Christianity" was their religion was hidden and they were told that it was the white man's religion that originated in Italy and it was the "white man's burden" to teach it to the "heathen" Africans. Our ancestors were told that if they would only be "good slaves," not cause any trouble and not steal "massa's" chickens, then when they died they would go to Heaven and become "white as snow."

Since the enslaved Africans were not allowed to read, they accepted this theology as "the Gospel." In fact, the indoctrination was so strong that many of us still believe this plantation theology and feel that the teachings of Yeshua are a gift from the white man.

This is especially evident during the Christmas season, when we are seduced into becoming "honorary Europeans," if only for one day.

We must not let anyone try to tell us that we are less "Christian" because we reject the Eurocentric theology. I urge you to join us in the "Dreaming of a Black Christmas” Campaign.

It’s simple. We ask that you 1) make sure that all your friends and family members are aware of the campaign, 2) tell our brothers and sisters, if they feel that they must decorate, to take down the Eurocentric images of the Christmas story and put up Afrocentric images, and 3) use your local media, especially Black talk shows, to spread the word about the campaign.

If we unite, to borrow from a popular song, "this Christmas will be unlike any other Christmas
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Reply #22 posted 12/03/02 10:37am

rdhull

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did anyone ever see The Rose?
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #23 posted 12/03/02 10:40am

AzureStar

rdhull said:

did anyone ever see The Rose?


With Bette Midler? I loved that movie...
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Reply #24 posted 12/03/02 11:29am

rdhull

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AzureStar said:

rdhull said:

did anyone ever see The Rose?


With Bette Midler? I loved that movie...


woot! anything u ever need, let me know

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Reply #25 posted 12/03/02 6:29pm

BlackMiles

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Bren1 said:

If there was a thread " - White Fact of the day" - It would be construed as racist

I thought the only black people who lived in irland were from the lord of dance troop
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Reply #26 posted 12/03/02 9:53pm

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Screen name games again.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #27 posted 12/03/02 11:50pm

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Sorry, someone already beat you to this. It's currently called the Federal Government.



AwhiteguynamedBill said:

Bren1 said:

If there was a thread " - White Fact of the day" - It would be construed as racist

then there is club for us brother plese send me priveate org note NAAWP Mission Statement:

The right to speak out is also the duty to speak out!

*

To educate and inform white citizens regarding civil matters of law which seek to compromise White rights in favor of minority special interests.
*

To provide for a common assembly of meeting and pooling of concerns for white people.
*

To voice and represent the rights for white people to the various levels of government agencies within the United States primarily, but also the international community.

Vision Statement:

*

Achieve a credible and recognized standing within the U.S. judicial system, to represent white people [as a class] and others wronged by discriminatory practices and other actions.
*

To bring about a white population knowledgeable of their rights as citizens and restore a sense of pride in their heritage.
*

To foster a spirit of "togetherness", and to enable white people to stand strong as one class of persons - to protect their rights and possessions.
*

To promote an attitude of "Equal Rights for White People" with special favors for NO persons or race.

The NAAWP is a not for profit, non violent, civil rights educational organization, demanding equal rights for whites and special privileges for none. The cost of membership is $35.00 a year. Included in your membership is a subscription to the NAAWP newsletter. The paper contains articles which highlight the problems that we know need to be addressed, and brought to light, e.g., Affirmative Action, white Christian and family values, education, minority hate crimes on whites, minorities in high placed government positions which adversely affect and discriminate against whites, immigration slanted heavily on minority influxes to our nation, and so many more issues that affect the future of you and your family's ability to prosper in this great nation. The newsletter reveals truth, and we suspect that many think that white American people - like in the movie A Few Good Men - can't handle the truth. That is an insult to our intelligence and our right to know and make judgments on facts.
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Reply #28 posted 12/04/02 1:49am

Bren1

Dont want myQuote connected with ANY of the guys above..
some make good points - most of you seem to want to be Black Victims or white racists - I just hate the English, Black and white(joke)

PS - Ireland has an E
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Reply #29 posted 12/04/02 3:10am

ian

BlackMiles said:

Bren1 said:

If there was a thread " - White Fact of the day" - It would be construed as racist

I thought the only black people who lived in irland were from the lord of dance troop


Shows what you know - when was the last time you were in Ireland? In the last 5 years in Ireland there has been a massive influx of immigrants into the country of nationalities. There is actually quite a sizeable Nigerian population in Dublin now, for example.
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