LoveGalore said:

EmmaMcG said:

LoveGalore said: I only really know her from the animated series and the Arkham games. Never read any of the comics. I prefer to think of her as a villain though. There's too many bad guys being turned into "anti-heroes" now.

Yep, agreed. I think her story was always quite intriguing. That's the problem with comics. They run so long that characters get run through the absolute meat grinder of possible iterations.

Fans read comics for a much longer time than they were meant to be read. After a book has had the same readers for decades, there's pressure on the writers to constantly do something different with the character.

sexton said:

LoveGalore said:

sexton said:

Fans read comics for a much longer time than they were meant to be read. After a book has had the same readers for decades, there's pressure on the writers to constantly do something different with the character.

Isn't that sort of like saying fans listen to musical artists too long and that's why the artists start to turn out shit records? Look at the Hickman X-Men run. It's possible to do great things.

If musicians released multiple albums monthly for 50 years straight then maybe that analogy could work, but they don't so no, it isn't like saying that.

sexton said:

LoveGalore said:

Isn't that sort of like saying fans listen to musical artists too long and that's why the artists start to turn out shit records? Look at the Hickman X-Men run. It's possible to do great things.

If musicians released multiple albums monthly for 50 years straight then maybe that analogy could work, but they don't so no, it isn't like saying that.

Prince wrote/recorded in the realm of 10-20 songs a month for 30 years and released 40+ records.

It's like that.

In fact, artists are just 1 source. Comics can be (and are) written by hundreds of people. Fresh new ideas, new talent, cropping up every year. Imagine if the comic Saga was written with X-Men characters. There's really no excuse for just awful story arcs.

sexton said:

If musicians released multiple albums monthly for 50 years straight then maybe that analogy could work, but they don't so no, it isn't like saying that.

What about soap operas? Both Days Of Our Lives & General Hospital have been on since the early 1960s and Young & The Restless has been on since the 1970s. Unlike prime time TV shows, soaps technically don't have seasons, nor are they re-run or have a summer hiatus. They're constantly in production all year.

LoveGalore said:

sexton said:

If musicians released multiple albums monthly for 50 years straight then maybe that analogy could work, but they don't so no, it isn't like saying that.

Prince wrote/recorded in the realm of 10-20 songs a month for 30 years and released 40+ records.

It's like that.

In fact, artists are just 1 source. Comics can be (and are) written by hundreds of people. Fresh new ideas, new talent, cropping up every year. Imagine if the comic Saga was written with X-Men characters. There's really no excuse for just awful story arcs.

Since you're bringing it up, it would be more accurate to compare Prince's body of work to those of a specific writer like Alan Moore or Neil Gaiman. And several writers taking their turn with a specific comic book character would be more like several artists covering the same album.

sexton said:

LoveGalore said:

Prince wrote/recorded in the realm of 10-20 songs a month for 30 years and released 40+ records.

It's like that.

In fact, artists are just 1 source. Comics can be (and are) written by hundreds of people. Fresh new ideas, new talent, cropping up every year. Imagine if the comic Saga was written with X-Men characters. There's really no excuse for just awful story arcs.

Since you're bringing it up, it would be more accurate to compare Prince's body of work to those of a specific writer like Alan Moore or Neil Gaiman. And several writers taking their turn with a specific comic book character would be more like several artists covering the same album.

Got it. So when comic book arcs suck its because of the fans who read the books.

great freakin movie...