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Matrix 4 in the Works With Keanu Reeves Returning

The fans have asked and the Lana Wachowski has answered. After a ton of talk about a potentialMatrix reboot with Michael B. Jordan taking over the lead role, it seems like the franchise is heading back to its roots. The Matrix 4 is actually happening, with a large part of the original team returning.


According to a report from Variety, a fourth Matrix movie is now in development, with Lana Wachowski writing and directing the film. Furthermore, stars Keanu Reeves and Carrie-Anne Moss reprising their roles as Neo and Trinity.

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Reply #1 posted 08/20/19 4:04pm

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Fuck sake...

Is this really necessary? The first movie was fantastic. The best sci fi movie in years at the time of its release.

Reloaded & Revolutions were awful. Plus, SPOILER ALERT, Neo died. How is he suddenly going to be not dead? How can they bring him back without shitting all over their own ending for Revolutions? Not only that but The Wachowskis haven't made a decent movie in 20 years.

I see no good that can come of this...
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Reply #2 posted 08/21/19 1:01am

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EmmaMcG said:

Fuck sake... Is this really necessary? The first movie was fantastic. The best sci fi movie in years at the time of its release. Reloaded & Revolutions were awful. Plus, SPOILER ALERT, Neo died. How is he suddenly going to be not dead? How can they bring him back without shitting all over their own ending for Revolutions? Not only that but The Wachowskis haven't made a decent movie in 20 years. I see no good that can come of this...


With teh whole Christ imagery they could ressurect Neo. Trinity on the other hand is dead as a doornail so I don't see how she could return.
WB (like they do with good enough franchises) demanded them to make The Matrix as a trilogy instead of there wish to make it a 6 movie arc. Revolutions was a disappointment because WB fucked them (as they usually do, see DC.)
Maybe they'll pick up the original story with Neo finding out that Zion was another level of the Matrix that's why he could destroy the squids with his Matrix powers 'outside' of the Matrix.
With Keanu now being some uber media god, considering he's all over the place with John Wick and some cameos in high profile movies, and the upcoming thrid Bill & Ted and the biggest of all in the upcoming game Cyberpunk 2077 and his comicon appearance, I get the reasoning of striking the iron while it is hot.

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Reply #3 posted 08/21/19 1:50am

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JorisE73 said:



EmmaMcG said:


Fuck sake... Is this really necessary? The first movie was fantastic. The best sci fi movie in years at the time of its release. Reloaded & Revolutions were awful. Plus, SPOILER ALERT, Neo died. How is he suddenly going to be not dead? How can they bring him back without shitting all over their own ending for Revolutions? Not only that but The Wachowskis haven't made a decent movie in 20 years. I see no good that can come of this...


With teh whole Christ imagery they could ressurect Neo. Trinity on the other hand is dead as a doornail so I don't see how she could return.
WB (like they do with good enough franchises) demanded them to make The Matrix as a trilogy instead of there wish to make it a 6 movie arc. Revolutions was a disappointment because WB fucked them (as they usually do, see DC.)
Maybe they'll pick up the original story with Neo finding out that Zion was another level of the Matrix that's why he could destroy the squids with his Matrix powers 'outside' of the Matrix.
With Keanu now being some uber media god, considering he's all over the place with John Wick and some cameos in high profile movies, and the upcoming thrid Bill & Ted and the biggest of all in the upcoming game Cyberpunk 2077 and his comicon appearance, I get the reasoning of striking the iron while it is hot.



Oh I understand why they'd choose now to make another Matrix movie. I just wish they'd do something a little more worthwhile. The first Matrix felt fresh and exciting. The sequels were anything but. They felt like a cheap knock off. And if the only reason that their doing a fourth movie is because their lead actor is in high demand, then that doesn't bode well. Don't get me wrong, I'll hope for the best. I just don't expect it to be any good.
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Reply #4 posted 08/21/19 12:25pm

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Perhaps be the sequel to the original and ignore 2 and 3. Or be held in the time frame between 1 and number 2 movie.

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Reply #5 posted 08/21/19 1:19pm

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Oh, dear... They should have left well enough alone. confused

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Reply #6 posted 08/21/19 2:53pm

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Didn't Neo die? He's going to be all christ like and stuff?
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Reply #7 posted 08/21/19 2:56pm

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onlyforaminute said:

Didn't Neo die? He's going to be all christ like and stuff?

razz lol Well, they did have Alien Resurrection, in which they brought back Sigourney Weaver's character. Quite loved that movie by the way...despite what others think. biggrin

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Reply #8 posted 08/21/19 11:37pm

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EmmaMcG said:

JorisE73 said:


With teh whole Christ imagery they could ressurect Neo. Trinity on the other hand is dead as a doornail so I don't see how she could return.
WB (like they do with good enough franchises) demanded them to make The Matrix as a trilogy instead of there wish to make it a 6 movie arc. Revolutions was a disappointment because WB fucked them (as they usually do, see DC.)
Maybe they'll pick up the original story with Neo finding out that Zion was another level of the Matrix that's why he could destroy the squids with his Matrix powers 'outside' of the Matrix.
With Keanu now being some uber media god, considering he's all over the place with John Wick and some cameos in high profile movies, and the upcoming thrid Bill & Ted and the biggest of all in the upcoming game Cyberpunk 2077 and his comicon appearance, I get the reasoning of striking the iron while it is hot.

Oh I understand why they'd choose now to make another Matrix movie. I just wish they'd do something a little more worthwhile. The first Matrix felt fresh and exciting. The sequels were anything but. They felt like a cheap knock off. And if the only reason that their doing a fourth movie is because their lead actor is in high demand, then that doesn't bode well. Don't get me wrong, I'll hope for the best. I just don't expect it to be any good.


Maybe it'll be some pass the torch type of movie for a new 'The One' to step in (michael B Jordan was rumored to be involved with a Matrix reboot a couple of years ago.)
I hope it'll be great, I love the first 2 movies the last one not so much.

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Reply #9 posted 08/22/19 2:19am

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The first one was utter brilliance ... the second was passable ... the third was dogsh*t.

This seems like a cash grab to me, though I'd be happy if they wiped out the sequels and started with a new part two.

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Reply #10 posted 08/22/19 9:33am

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The first one was utter brilliance ... the second was passable ... the third was dogsh*t.

This seems like a cash grab to me, though I'd be happy if they wiped out the sequels and started with a new part two.


Agree with this 100%

Maybe they'll follow the formula that others have done and do a prequal?

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Reply #11 posted 08/22/19 9:07pm

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DaveT said:

The first one was utter brilliance ... the second was passable ... the third was dogsh*t.

This seems like a cash grab to me, though I'd be happy if they wiped out the sequels and started with a new part two.

The second one was horrible. I couldn't stop laughing with all the under current Porn scenes reflected in the movie. You can tell the fetish is through out. It's funny as hell.

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Reply #12 posted 08/23/19 3:26am

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kewlschool said:

DaveT said:

The first one was utter brilliance ... the second was passable ... the third was dogsh*t.

This seems like a cash grab to me, though I'd be happy if they wiped out the sequels and started with a new part two.

The second one was horrible. I couldn't stop laughing with all the under current Porn scenes reflected in the movie. You can tell the fetish is through out. It's funny as hell.


Yeah, but I quite like that the second one had some batshit crazy moments in it (intentional or not). Plus some of the action scenes (the burly brawl, the motorway chase) were really well done, and that exposition dump with Neo and the Architect, with a mind scrambler that was!

It was a mess, but an interesting mess.

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Reply #13 posted 08/23/19 1:58pm

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onlyforaminute said:


Didn't Neo die? He's going to be all christ like and stuff?

razz lol Well, they did have Alien Resurrection, in which they brought back Sigourney Weaver's character. Quite loved that movie by the way...despite what others think. biggrin




Do you one better, the original coming back...no other than spock ST 3, so i guess i can stop now. Still the Matrix thing jumped shark longtimes ago.
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Reply #14 posted 08/23/19 2:35pm

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DaveT said:

The first one was utter brilliance ... the second was passable ... the third was dogsh*t.

This seems like a cash grab to me, though I'd be happy if they wiped out the sequels and started with a new part two.

Cash grab is right.

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Reply #15 posted 08/25/19 8:32am

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EmmaMcG said:

Fuck sake... Is this really necessary? The first movie was fantastic. The best sci fi movie in years at the time of its release. Reloaded & Revolutions were awful. Plus, SPOILER ALERT, Neo died. How is he suddenly going to be not dead? How can they bring him back without shitting all over their own ending for Revolutions? Not only that but The Wachowskis haven't made a decent movie in 20 years. I see no good that can come of this...


If you think that a "Matrix 4" is annoying wait until the news reaches that that annoying kid actor playing Spiderman is the new Robin in "The Batman"...

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Reply #16 posted 08/25/19 11:56am

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Neversin said:



EmmaMcG said:


Fuck sake... Is this really necessary? The first movie was fantastic. The best sci fi movie in years at the time of its release. Reloaded & Revolutions were awful. Plus, SPOILER ALERT, Neo died. How is he suddenly going to be not dead? How can they bring him back without shitting all over their own ending for Revolutions? Not only that but The Wachowskis haven't made a decent movie in 20 years. I see no good that can come of this...


If you think that a "Matrix 4" is annoying wait until the news reaches that that annoying kid actor playing Spiderman is the new Robin in "The Batman"...

Neversin.



Don't get me started on The Batman. Already you get the sense that it's going to be another wasted opportunity for Warner Bros.
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Reply #17 posted 08/25/19 2:24pm

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Absolutely unnecesairy, but everything for the money!

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Reply #18 posted 08/25/19 5:41pm

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EmmaMcG said:

Fuck sake... Is this really necessary? The first movie was fantastic. The best sci fi movie in years at the time of its release. Reloaded & Revolutions were awful. Plus, SPOILER ALERT, Neo died. How is he suddenly going to be not dead? How can they bring him back without shitting all over their own ending for Revolutions? Not only that but The Wachowskis haven't made a decent movie in 20 years. I see no good that can come of this...

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Reply #19 posted 08/26/19 12:09am

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EmmaMcG said:

Neversin said:


If you think that a "Matrix 4" is annoying wait until the news reaches that that annoying kid actor playing Spiderman is the new Robin in "The Batman"...

Neversin.

Don't get me started on The Batman. Already you get the sense that it's going to be another wasted opportunity for Warner Bros.


I have hope, not much, but enough to be interested and I really like Tom Holland, sure he talks and acts in his Spiderman role like some child actor from the '50's, but I still like it and hope he'll do great as Robin.

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Reply #20 posted 08/26/19 6:03am

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JorisE73 said:



EmmaMcG said:


Neversin said:



If you think that a "Matrix 4" is annoying wait until the news reaches that that annoying kid actor playing Spiderman is the new Robin in "The Batman"...

Neversin.



Don't get me started on The Batman. Already you get the sense that it's going to be another wasted opportunity for Warner Bros.


I have hope, not much, but enough to be interested and I really like Tom Holland, sure he talks and acts in his Spiderman role like some child actor from the '50's, but I still like it and hope he'll do great as Robin.



I'm pretty sure he's not actually playing Robin. Neversin is just contemplating a worst case scenario. There's no way Sony would allow the lead actor in their biggest franchise play second fiddle to a rival company's superhero.
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Reply #21 posted 08/27/19 12:53am

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JorisE73 said:


I have hope, not much, but enough to be interested and I really like Tom Holland, sure he talks and acts in his Spiderman role like some child actor from the '50's, but I still like it and hope he'll do great as Robin.

I'm pretty sure he's not actually playing Robin. Neversin is just contemplating a worst case scenario. There's no way Sony would allow the lead actor in their biggest franchise play second fiddle to a rival company's superhero.


Ah ok, I just looked up for some info on it and can't find anything, I thought maybe something was announced about it. But I doubt Sony can dictate what kind of role an actor can take or not, that;s all up to the actor. Sony just owns Spiderman and not teh actor playing him.

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JorisE73 said:



EmmaMcG said:


JorisE73 said:



I have hope, not much, but enough to be interested and I really like Tom Holland, sure he talks and acts in his Spiderman role like some child actor from the '50's, but I still like it and hope he'll do great as Robin.



I'm pretty sure he's not actually playing Robin. Neversin is just contemplating a worst case scenario. There's no way Sony would allow the lead actor in their biggest franchise play second fiddle to a rival company's superhero.


Ah ok, I just looked up for some info on it and can't find anything, I thought maybe something was announced about it. But I doubt Sony can dictate what kind of role an actor can take or not, that;s all up to the actor. Sony just owns Spiderman and not teh actor playing him.

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No, they can definitely decide what other roles he takes, especially when it comes to roles in other superhero movies. It will 100% be a part of his Spider-Man contract that he can't take a role in another superhero movie while still under contract. Even actors with minor roles will have those kinds of restrictions in their contracts.
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Reply #23 posted 08/27/19 11:32pm

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JorisE73 said:


Ah ok, I just looked up for some info on it and can't find anything, I thought maybe something was announced about it. But I doubt Sony can dictate what kind of role an actor can take or not, that;s all up to the actor. Sony just owns Spiderman and not teh actor playing him.

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No, they can definitely decide what other roles he takes, especially when it comes to roles in other superhero movies. It will 100% be a part of his Spider-Man contract that he can't take a role in another superhero movie while still under contract. Even actors with minor roles will have those kinds of restrictions in their contracts.


Wow, never knew that. I would never sign such a contract.

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JorisE73 said:



EmmaMcG said:


JorisE73 said:



Ah ok, I just looked up for some info on it and can't find anything, I thought maybe something was announced about it. But I doubt Sony can dictate what kind of role an actor can take or not, that;s all up to the actor. Sony just owns Spiderman and not teh actor playing him.


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No, they can definitely decide what other roles he takes, especially when it comes to roles in other superhero movies. It will 100% be a part of his Spider-Man contract that he can't take a role in another superhero movie while still under contract. Even actors with minor roles will have those kinds of restrictions in their contracts.


Wow, never knew that. I would never sign such a contract.



It's not so bad, really. It might be a restrictive contract but these guys are getting paid millions of dollars. If I was given the chance to play Supergirl or something and I was being paid the kind of money Tom Holland is getting for Spider-Man, I'd have absolutely no problem signing a contract that prohibits me from playing Captain Marvel or whatever.
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Let is rest. Make something new.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Let is rest. Make something new.




do what a pal of mine did... write a script or treatment and get it to an agent! Sell it for a few 100K...

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