XxAxX said: the majority of us also understand the difference between killing for food and killing by accident/for no reason
two different things. and, just so you know i am strongly opposed to factory farms Go on tell it like it is. | |
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tackam said: The majority of you who are so very worried about the little birdies probably buy dozens of factory farmed chickens ever year who have been brutalized and killed. . .and virtually all of you buy factory farm eggs, which come from chickens who have been tightly confined, force-molted, brutalized, and eventually killed.
selective compassion www.whyvegan.com Actually I did have 2 types of chicken for lunch. Don't feel good about the treatment of these poor critters. Hypocricy...yes. Did it taste good...Yes. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Marrk said: Tears came to my eyes reading that! that's one of the worst stories i've ever read on here.
That must have been terrible. Same here. How awful! I can't tell you how many times I've taken animals to an emergency vet. Here's one story: I was out driving on a dirt road, while it was raining and dark. I saw something struggling up ahead, so I stopped just in front of it with my brights on. It was a very young racoon laying in a mud puddle, curled into a fetal position, crying and shaking. It didn't appear to be afraid of me or opposed to me wrapping it in a towel. I was lucky enough to have a box in my trunk so I placed it in there and headed home. I took it down into the basement, where I could get a better look at it and then figure out what to do. It had some deep gauges in it that appeared to be from some animal attack. It had not been run over fortunately. My guess is that a hawk or cat got to it. So I dried it off. Then I made some solution for it to drink - milk, tea and honey heated up (recommended by the vet). It was so cute, cuz I would hold the spork full of fluid in front of it and it would grab the other end and start licking. Very tame and friendly. I was lucky enough to take him in to an emergency vet who handles wildlife so that it could be in better hands. I checked on it everyday for the next week as the doctor tried nursing it to health. They said it began eating regularly again, but the sad news was that its mental state kept getting worse. The vet told me that it had sustained brain injuries and could not be released into the wild at that age. The vet made the decision to put it to sleep. I was very upset by this but also understood. This is just one case of countless others. | |
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Maybe it was where i grew up. When animals were loose in the street it was like Deathrace 2000. People sped up in hopes of contact.
And another one edit [This message was edited Mon Apr 21 14:44:59 PDT 2003 by SuperC] | |
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Fucking murderer!!
I wondered why I aint seen many Robins these last few years, i thought the ecosystem had evolved a bit when all the time it was "Mad Car" Tron's fault! Hope yr pleased with yerself boy!!! Nah, I know how U feel dude. I love animals so much 2 (except spiders, I kill them whenever) and I know how shitty it is to turn 1 into spam while driving. There there Tronny "...because no-one gets there alone." - "...I like the floor. It's the only thing that seems real." | |
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SuperC said: Maybe it was where i grew up. When animals were loose in the street it was like Deathrace 2000. People sped up in hopes of contact.
And another one edit [This message was edited Mon Apr 21 14:44:59 PDT 2003 by SuperC] FUCK THE BIRDS... LET A CRIPPLE MOTHAFUCKA START CROSSIN THE STREET WHEN THE LITE IS YELLOW I AM King BAD a.k.a. BAD,
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SexLovely said: [color=blue:c3acd36af6:018f30829e]Fucking murderer!!
I wondered why I aint seen many Robins these last few years, i thought the ecosystem had evolved a bit when all the time it was "Mad Car" Tron's fault! Hope yr pleased with yerself boy!!! Nah, I know how U feel dude. I love animals so much 2 (except spiders, I kill them whenever) and I know how shitty it is to turn 1 into spam while driving. There there Tronny | |
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Plesae drive back and bury the birdie and lay it to rest | |
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utopia7 said: Plesae drive back and bury the birdie and lay it to rest
I thought about it. But I was too upset at the time. I just moved it out of the road and drove off. | |
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'bout 4 years ago I was driving home from work late at night. I turned a corner and saw a racoon heading directly into the path of my car. With no time to react, I ran the poor creature over. I have a Ford Windstar minivan, and I felt the bump big-time. I looked in my rearview mirror and it was flopping up and down on it's back...like a fish out of water. It was the most horrible thing!!! I was trembling all the way home from the shock.
By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory! | |
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Awww...I'm so sorry...I hit a raccoon once and I pulled over to the side of the road and cried
for you and for the birdy [This message was edited Mon Apr 21 21:27:12 PDT 2003 by applekisses] | |
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Tron, my heart goes out to you. Five years ago, I ran over a dog that darted out in front of my car one night. I know I hit him because I saw him only a split second before he crossed in front of my on-coming car. I remember he was small, white, and looked like a Jack Russell Terrier. The sound of my car hitting his body has haunted me since that night. After I pulled over and ran out of the car -- screaming for help and crying -- and headed toward where the impact happened, all I found was the blood stain. No body.
It is horrifying still, God it's hard to type this...It's horrifying to know that he didn't die instantly. That he probably limped off into the dark to die alone, in pain. I would have given anything at that moment to hold him as he died or race him to a veterinary hospital. I know there's nothing I could have done to stop it. I spent three hours that night driving around looking for him. I knocked on neighbors doors asking them for help. Some slammed the door. Others -- still clad in their pajamas, grabbed a flashlight and joined the search. I never found him. But he's still with me. Friends later told me it would have made no difference if I'd "held the animal" to comfort it. I don't believe that. I believe it even less today than in the weeks following the accident. Not long ago, I had to put down my father's 18-year-old cat after she'd been suffering from painful kidney failure. I held her in my arms as she drifted off to eternal sleep. In those final moments, she and I locked eyes and with the last bit of strength she had she pulled closer to my chest. At that moment, I knew without a shadow of a doubt that this little animal, like all animals, had a loving soul, felt love, and appreciated my comforting her. Tron, thanks for sharing your experience tonight. I hope you'll be OK. Love Xitlai [This message was edited Mon Apr 21 22:34:46 PDT 2003 by xitlai] ---------------------------------------------
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Hug
This totally shucks, esp being an animal lover like you. But humanity means industry means eventually being part of it. But being part of it like this is always a shock. Your love and care. The fact you stopped. It is more than anyone else would have done. Another hug. [This message was edited Mon Apr 21 23:24:43 PDT 2003 by gooeythehamster] | |
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xitlai said: Tron, my heart goes out to you. Five years ago, I ran over a dog that darted out in front of my car one night. I know I hit him because I saw him only a split second before he crossed in front of my on-coming car. I remember he was small, white, and looked like a Jack Russell Terrier. The sound of my car hitting his body has haunted me since that night. After I pulled over and ran out of the car -- screaming for help and crying -- and headed toward where the impact happened, all I found was the blood stain. No body.
It is horrifying still, God it's hard to type this...It's horrifying to know that he didn't die instantly. That he probably limped off into the dark to die alone, in pain. I would have given anything at that moment to hold him as he died or race him to a veterinary hospital. I know there's nothing I could have done to stop it. I spent three hours that night driving around looking for him. I knocked on neighbors doors asking them for help. Some slammed the door. Others -- still clad in their pajamas, grabbed a flashlight and joined the search. I never found him. But he's still with me. Friends later told me it would have made no difference if I'd "held the animal" to comfort it. I don't believe that. I believe it even less today than in the weeks following the accident. Not long ago, I had to put down my father's 18-year-old cat after she'd been suffering from painful kidney failure. I held her in my arms as she drifted off to eternal sleep. In those final moments, she and I locked eyes and with the last bit of strength she had she pulled closer to my chest. At that moment, I knew without a shadow of a doubt that this little animal, like all animals, had a loving soul, felt love, and appreciated my comforting her. Tron, thanks for sharing your experience tonight. I hope you'll be OK. Love Xitlai [This message was edited Mon Apr 21 22:34:46 PDT 2003 by xitlai] Jesus, I am totally sobbing right now. You're right. About all of this. | |
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xitlai said: Tron, my heart goes out to you. Five years ago, I ran over a dog that darted out in front of my car one night. I know I hit him because I saw him only a split second before he crossed in front of my on-coming car. I remember he was small, white, and looked like a Jack Russell Terrier. The sound of my car hitting his body has haunted me since that night. After I pulled over and ran out of the car -- screaming for help and crying -- and headed toward where the impact happened, all I found was the blood stain. No body.
It is horrifying still, God it's hard to type this...It's horrifying to know that he didn't die instantly. That he probably limped off into the dark to die alone, in pain. I would have given anything at that moment to hold him as he died or race him to a veterinary hospital. I know there's nothing I could have done to stop it. I spent three hours that night driving around looking for him. I knocked on neighbors doors asking them for help. Some slammed the door. Others -- still clad in their pajamas, grabbed a flashlight and joined the search. I never found him. But he's still with me. Friends later told me it would have made no difference if I'd "held the animal" to comfort it. I don't believe that. I believe it even less today than in the weeks following the accident. Not long ago, I had to put down my father's 18-year-old cat after she'd been suffering from painful kidney failure. I held her in my arms as she drifted off to eternal sleep. In those final moments, she and I locked eyes and with the last bit of strength she had she pulled closer to my chest. At that moment, I knew without a shadow of a doubt that this little animal, like all animals, had a loving soul, felt love, and appreciated my comforting her. Tron, thanks for sharing your experience tonight. I hope you'll be OK. Love Xitlai [This message was edited Mon Apr 21 22:34:46 PDT 2003 by xitlai] wow! this brought tears to my eyes...because i love cats and animals so much! blessings, kim-- | |
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tackam said: The majority of you who are so very worried about the little birdies probably buy dozens of factory farmed chickens ever year who have been brutalized and killed. . .and virtually all of you buy factory farm eggs, which come from chickens who have been tightly confined, force-molted, brutalized, and eventually killed.
selective compassion www.whyvegan.com I was just about to raise the word "Hypocrite" yeah. People don't like seeing animals die by their own eyes but if it's going on behind the closed doors of a slaughter house then all is fine and dandy... | |
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I know how you feel. A few years I was on the highway late at night, heading to Austin from Houston. A whole family of racoons wandered out in front of my car. There was no time to slow down, and there were cars in the next lane, and right behind my. I single ehandedly managed to take out the entire friggin' family of coons, all by myself. I really felt awful after that, and I still don't like to think about it. Do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid ones. (Ecclesiastes 7:9) | |
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Essence said: tackam said: The majority of you who are so very worried about the little birdies probably buy dozens of factory farmed chickens ever year who have been brutalized and killed. . .and virtually all of you buy factory farm eggs, which come from chickens who have been tightly confined, force-molted, brutalized, and eventually killed.
selective compassion www.whyvegan.com I was just about to raise the word "Hypocrite" yeah. People don't like seeing animals die by their own eyes but if it's going on behind the closed doors of a slaughter house then all is fine and dandy... So we should condemn people for showing compassion when they accidentally take a life? I don't agree with factory farms either, but that doesn't make someone a hypocrite if they feel bad for hitting a bird, or other animal. The fact of the matter is that people are bothered when the animal dies for no reason at all. I agree that the conditions in factory farms are deplorable, and I further agree that humans do not need to eat animals to survive, but the fact is that they are at least being killed to be used as food, which is a far greater purpose than the senselessness of an animal getting run over. Its the meaninglessness of the death that is disturbing. Let's not attack people, and bash them over the head with the vegan agenda. The world has enough of a lack of compassion, especially towards animals. I don't think it's right to attack someone when they show some, like its just not enough. Some is better than none. [This message was edited Tue Apr 22 7:47:54 PDT 2003 by JediMaster] Do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid ones. (Ecclesiastes 7:9) | |
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Chickens taste just like people! | |
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that sucks it would be more tragic if it wasn't a bird. my sympathy level drops for birds and cats, but it's still sad TRON | |
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