EmmaMcG said:

Hopefully they'll also pick up Luke Cage and Iron Fist from Netflix. They should get Jessica Jones and Daredevil too while they're at it. I'd love to see Spider-Man and Daredevil team up to take on Kingpin.

Was gonna say, I assume this is why Netflix are dropping their Marvel stuff ... Disney forcing their hand maybe. Its a shame as I've enjoyed all of the Netflix Marvel series.

I guess Netflx will lose all of their Marvel movies to. What with Amazon, Hulu, etc the product out there really will be spread too thin. I'm not going to start paying for loads of different subscription services, its ridiculous.

And as for the Loki series, what's the point? ... we already know he dies in Infinity War.

DaveT said:

EmmaMcG said:

Hopefully they'll also pick up Luke Cage and Iron Fist from Netflix. They should get Jessica Jones and Daredevil too while they're at it. I'd love to see Spider-Man and Daredevil team up to take on Kingpin.

Disney should pair Luke Cage and Iron Fist in a series together like in the books.



If it's going to have adult material like the previous Netflix series then Disney could air it on Hulu.

sexton said:

I can see that I'm going to be missing a whole lot of pop culture in the coming years. I ain't paying another dime just to watch stuff.

onlyforaminute said:

EmmaMcG said:

onlyforaminute said:

I can see that I'm going to be missing a whole lot of pop culture in the coming years. I ain't paying another dime just to watch stuff.

I don't pay for any of it. And yet I don't miss a thing.

I know there are means but I don't have the means for ducking all the viruses, cookies, hackers and who knows what else, so I give up. I was enjoying the heck outta Netflix for a while, but it seems the season is over catching up on things I missed, now it's all hunting, pecking and chasing just to watch a movie or a show. I think I'm dropping out of this rat race and start enjoying books more like I did as a youth. I need some more glass though, too much eye strain damage from starring at monitors.

EmmaMcG said:

DaveT said:

Was gonna say, I assume this is why Netflix are dropping their Marvel stuff ... Disney forcing their hand maybe. Its a shame as I've enjoyed all of the Netflix Marvel series.

I guess Netflx will lose all of their Marvel movies to. What with Amazon, Hulu, etc the product out there really will be spread too thin. I'm not going to start paying for loads of different subscription services, its ridiculous.

And as for the Loki series, what's the point? ... we already know he dies in Infinity War.

He could come back in the next Avengers though. Spider-Man died too but there's another Spider-Man movie out a few months after the next Avengers movie.

Except that SpiderMan was killed by Thanos in the purge of 1/2 the population. Loki was killed before he got the Infinity Stone for Time.

benni said:

EmmaMcG said:

DaveT said: He could come back in the next Avengers though. Spider-Man died too but there's another Spider-Man movie out a few months after the next Avengers movie.

Except that SpiderMan was killed by Thanos in the purge of 1/2 the population. Loki was killed before he got the Infinity Stone for Time.

Loki was killed in Thor: The Dark World and came back.

benni said:

onlyforaminute said:

EmmaMcG said:

onlyforaminute said: I don't pay for any of it. And yet I don't miss a thing.

I know there are means but I don't have the means for ducking all the viruses, cookies, hackers and who knows what else, so I give up. I was enjoying the heck outta Netflix for a while, but it seems the season is over catching up on things I missed, now it's all hunting, pecking and chasing just to watch a movie or a show. I think I'm dropping out of this rat race and start enjoying books more like I did as a youth. I need some more glass though, too much eye strain damage from starring at monitors.

It's perfectly safe to use torrents.

EmmaMcG said:

benni said:

Except that SpiderMan was killed by Thanos in the purge of 1/2 the population. Loki was killed before he got the Infinity Stone for Time.

That doesn't really matter though. Especially if there's going to be some time travel shenanigans. Gamora also died prior to the "snap" but I'm still expecting her back for Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3. My guess is that everyone who died in Infinity War will come back. One or two characters may die for good in Avengers 4 (my money is on Captain America).

There's no time travels involved, the flashback scenes are thanks to Tony's memory device introduces in CW. The directors explained this months ago but no one paid attention and the press keeps spreading this time travel nonsense.

databank said:

Imo Loki is(was?) one of the best characters in MCU. But he peaked back in 2013 and I wonder if the show will be a hit.

Anyways. I think the series could be about either post OR pre Infinity War - in which case they wouldn't have to bring him back to life. But then again, even if it's post IW...there's no permanant death for these demi-gods. In the comics at least when Loki/Thor die they are supposed to go to Valhalla which is just a different dimension.

sexton said:

benni said:

Except that SpiderMan was killed by Thanos in the purge of 1/2 the population. Loki was killed before he got the Infinity Stone for Time.

Loki was killed in Thor: The Dark World and came back.

That's true.

EmmaMcG said:

benni said:

Except that SpiderMan was killed by Thanos in the purge of 1/2 the population. Loki was killed before he got the Infinity Stone for Time.

That doesn't really matter though. Especially if there's going to be some time travel shenanigans. Gamora also died prior to the "snap" but I'm still expecting her back for Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3. My guess is that everyone who died in Infinity War will come back. One or two characters may die for good in Avengers 4 (my money is on Captain America).

Wasn't Dr. Strange the only that could use the Eye of Agamotto, with the time stone?

EmmaMcG said:

databank said:

There's no time travels involved, the flashback scenes are thanks to Tony's memory device introduces in CW. The directors explained this months ago but no one paid attention and the press keeps spreading this time travel nonsense.

I didn't even know that the press were talking about time travel. I just assumed that it would be the easiest way to bring dead characters back to life. And when you have a a character like Dr Strange, who's already used time manipulation in his solo movie, it doesn't seem like so much of a stretch. But even if there's no time travel at all, my point still stands regarding Loki coming back from the dead for his spin off show. Gamora died before the finger snap and she's pretty much guaranteed to be back for the next Guardians movie so it's not just the ones who Thanos killed with the Infinity Gauntlet who is going to be coming back.

They need to be carteful with comic book deaths, IDK if movie/TV audiences will be as forgiveful as comics fans. Comic books deaths ruined comics for me.

benni said:

Anyone seen the new official MCU timeline? It makes no sense and just makes things even more confusing than they already were

I wish they'd pay more attention to those things, it's not that hard to decide what happens when and stick to it.

databank said:

databank said:

Anyone seen the new official MCU timeline? It makes no sense and just makes things even more confusing than they already were

I wish they'd pay more attention to those things, it's not that hard to decide what happens when and stick to it.

There really isn't a major misplacement of an event in the timeline though. Things seem to be at least in order. I do agree they could pay closer attention to the whole thing however. Most directors/writers don't seem to keep up with other marvel movies besides their own (they all suck at MCU trivia whenver it's come up in an interview)...But we all know from the very beginning it was never really a carefully planned out storyline. They've changed so much as they went like bringing a certain character back to life simply he was popular, etc.

EmmaMcG said:

databank said:

Anyone seen the new official MCU timeline? It makes no sense and just makes things even more confusing than they already were

I wish they'd pay more attention to those things, it's not that hard to decide what happens when and stick to it.

It's not that it's hard to do. It just doesn't make sense from a creative standpoint to care too much about it. These movies all have different writers and directors and aside from the obvious restrictions that are in place preventing them from killing off a character who will be needed in the next movie, they have (mostly) free reign to do what they want within the confines of the overall story. Inevitably, that will lead to some minor plot holes or chronological inconsistencies but that is much more favourable than the alternative, which would be to completely restrict any and all creative freedom and alienate the writers and directors who they've hired to make the movies. Just look at the situation at Warner Bros with the DCEU movies. Zack Snyder was forced out because studio executives thought audiences had too short an attention span to follow a 5 movie story arc so instead movies were rushed, outside editors were hired to cut vital scenes to reduce running time and the two best actors they had have since left the series, leaving the whole DCEU in a complete shambles. If the director of Spider-Man Homecoming says that movie takes place 8 years after The Avengers so that he could retroactively say that the kid in the Iron Man mask from Iron Man 2 was a young Peter Parker, despite Marvel now saying that the movie was only 5 years after the Avengers, meaning now that the ages of the kid and Peter Parker don't line up, I can look past that. It's such a minor thing. Nobody is really paying too close attention to dates and such. Especially when you also have to factor in Agents of Shield and the Netflix shows too. It's too much to keep on top of and ultimately, it doesn't matter.

It's a matter of showing respect to fans who invest time and money into following the whole saga, and respecting their own creations. Paying attention to details doesn't need to get in the filmmakers' way, it's a simple thing to do, they just don't care and I find it annoying.

happinessinitsuncutform said:

databank said:

Anyone seen the new official MCU timeline? It makes no sense and just makes things even more confusing than they already were

I wish they'd pay more attention to those things, it's not that hard to decide what happens when and stick to it.

There really isn't a major misplacement of an event in the timeline though. Things seem to be at least in order. I do agree they could pay closer attention to the whole thing however. Most directors/writers don't seem to keep up with other marvel movies besides their own (they all suck at MCU trivia whenver it's come up in an interview)...But we all know from the very beginning it was never really a carefully planned out storyline. They've changed so much as they went like bringing a certain character back to life simply he was popular, etc.

There are several problems:

Black Panther is misplaced, it should immediately follow CW and be set before Homecoming.

There's a line of dialogue in CW that says Tony became IM 8 years ago and now it's 6.

There's a line in IW that says Avengers was 6 years ago and now it's 5.

And of course the Homecoming fiasco that isn't in line with anything else, with 8 years now being 4...

Either you don't make any time reference in the movies and leave it to the audience to figure out how much time has passed, or you do and stick to what was decided.

Not to mention that they could bother including the series in the timeline.

The Lucas Story group is doing a much better job at keeping continuity in place.

EmmaMcG said:

Hopefully they'll also pick up Luke Cage and Iron Fist from Netflix. They should get Jessica Jones and Daredevil too while they're at it. I'd love to see Spider-Man and Daredevil team up to take on Kingpin.

Daredevil was just canceled by Netflix too so that's another potential series to add to Disney's catalog.

sexton said: