Anyone watching?

I've always been fascinated with this stuff
Definately a horror story

Before he became the cult leader a big part of his life was spent in prison. And he was fascinated by pimps and learned from them information he later used to gather young women first, into his fold.

https://www.fox.com/inside-the-manson-cult-the-lost-tapes/article/about-the-show-5b6c7cdcc6e92d001d320abc/

Fifty years ago, Charles Manson assembled a group of young followers, setting up a commune in Southern California. Mirroring the energy of the era, Manson was an aspiring musician who preached messages of peace and love, attracting seemingly innocent people into his inner circle. No one would have suspected that his followers would commit the most infamous series of slayings in U.S. history. During this period, one young filmmaker was given exclusive access to the Manson cult. In October 2016, he died, leaving a vast collection of footage, interviews and photos. Now, INSIDE THE MANSON CULT: THE LOST TAPES presents the inside story of how a peace-loving commune turned into America’s most horrifying group of cold-blooded killers.

Liev Schreiber currently stars in “Ray Donovan.” He has received three Emmy Award nominations and five Golden Globe nominations for his work on the series. Schreiber also has starred in various films, such as Academy Award winner “Spotlight,” “The Butler” and “The Manchurian Candidate.” Additionally, he is a multiple Tony Award-nominated actor for his roles in “A View from the Bridge,” “Glengarry Glen Ross” and “Talk Radio.”

INSIDE THE MANSON CULT: THE LOST TAPES is produced by Naked Television. Simon Andreae, Hugh Ballantyne and Richard Dale serve as executive producers, along with Allan Gaba and Dean Egnater.

I´m still amazed that grown folks could fall for this man and even kill for him.

What did they see in him?

What do they see in any of these cult leaders?

purplethunder3121 said:

What do they see in any of these cult leaders?

It even goes beyond that, people seem to be drawn to people with a certain something about them.
You see it starting in school ages. It is a bit scarry.

There is a book called Sociopaths Among Us, that tells alot about it.

purplethunder3121 said:

What do they see in any of these cult leaders?

I think a big part of it is not having the responsibility to think for yourself, it's a scary seductiveness, I've been there. I wouldn't admit it if it weren't true because I'm ashamed of some of the people I fell for in my life, but I still love watching docu's about cults, there is a scary seductiveness to it.

KoolEaze said:

I´m still amazed that grown folks could fall for this man and even kill for him.

What did they see in him?

how do people join a military force and kill people they have no grudge against? It's basically brainwashing. mindfucking, I call it Pimp/whore, you fuck people's heads up enough and they have no self esteem to function on their own, most people are whores in one way or another, if you don't believe me think about all the bosses you've had and how many of them treated you like shit yet you brought your ass to work every day inspite of it. Break people and then you can do what you want with them. Look at boot camp, they call it breaking you down to build you up but it's really just pimping you for their own ends.

PeteSilas said:

KoolEaze said:

I´m still amazed that grown folks could fall for this man and even kill for him.

What did they see in him?

how do people join a military force and kill people they have no grudge against? It's basically brainwashing. mindfucking, I call it Pimp/whore, you fuck people's heads up enough and they have no self esteem to function on their own, most people are whores in one way or another, if you don't believe me think about all the bosses you've had and how many of them treated you like shit yet you brought your ass to work every day inspite of it. Break people and then you can do what you want with them. Look at boot camp, they call it breaking you down to build you up but it's really just pimping you for their own ends.

Well basically Manson learned from pimps how to get young broken lost girls. Which is what he did. Everyone back then was searching and exploring.
Manson romanced the girls, sang/played his music and present a vision of utopia, also using a little bit of drugs. Like pimps do. It opens the mind for someone to get into your soul. Then sex, and the girls started feeling like they belonged somewhere. He wasn't abusive and many said they really felt a strong sense of love.
Then the guys started sniffing around seeing these cute free go with the wind girls, and the same thing insude with the guys.
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Even people investigating Manson said when he came into the room you could feel the energy change and it felt like some kind of electricity was coming from him.

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I would not want to attempt to be near something like him.

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But I assume there are people like this (on the good side as well) I sure thought of Uptown when I would hear certain examples of how he got them together.

KoolEaze said:

I´m still amazed that grown folks could fall for this man and even kill for him.

What did they see in him?

By the time it got to the killing they were hooked.
It start out for a long time as a commune, of sex, drugs, nature, being free, familyand community

and then underneath that was Mansons drive to get a record deal

That was the 2nd phase, the 3rd was when Manson was rejected then he 'turned darker'
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Manson said he rarely used drugs, LSD etc and when he did he used it in small dosages, but gave the guys and girls large dosages. He said he was able to control them and implement his ideas more clearly that way.

OldFriends4Sale said:

PeteSilas said:

how do people join a military force and kill people they have no grudge against? It's basically brainwashing. mindfucking, I call it Pimp/whore, you fuck people's heads up enough and they have no self esteem to function on their own, most people are whores in one way or another, if you don't believe me think about all the bosses you've had and how many of them treated you like shit yet you brought your ass to work every day inspite of it. Break people and then you can do what you want with them. Look at boot camp, they call it breaking you down to build you up but it's really just pimping you for their own ends.

Well basically Manson learned from pimps how to get young broken lost girls. Which is what he did. Everyone back then was searching and exploring.
Manson romanced the girls, sang/played his music and present a vision of utopia, also using a little bit of drugs. Like pimps do. It opens the mind for someone to get into your soul. Then sex, and the girls started feeling like they belonged somewhere. He wasn't abusive and many said they really felt a strong sense of love.
Then the guys started sniffing around seeing these cute free go with the wind girls, and the same thing insude with the guys.
.
Even people investigating Manson said when he came into the room you could feel the energy change and it felt like some kind of electricity was coming from him.

.

I would not want to attempt to be near something like him.

.

.

But I assume there are people like this (on the good side as well) I sure thought of Uptown when I would hear certain examples of how he got them together.

it's mainly charisma, as far as the electricity i recall e part of the movie about Jesse James where they say people claimed the temperature in the rooms rose when he came in, I believe those kinds of things. Whether it's spriritual or some intuitive knowledge of manipulation, who knows. they say Manson was doing what was later called "mirroring" way back then and no way he had any education on that. Prince? Uptown? In retrospect he wasn't that bad was he? As for me, the guru I fell for was largely harmless thank god. but.., fuck em all.

Sounds like psychopathic electricity.

He looked for girls with "broken wings". Pimp

OldFriends4Sale said:

PeteSilas said:

how do people join a military force and kill people they have no grudge against? It's basically brainwashing. mindfucking, I call it Pimp/whore, you fuck people's heads up enough and they have no self esteem to function on their own, most people are whores in one way or another, if you don't believe me think about all the bosses you've had and how many of them treated you like shit yet you brought your ass to work every day inspite of it. Break people and then you can do what you want with them. Look at boot camp, they call it breaking you down to build you up but it's really just pimping you for their own ends.

Well basically Manson learned from pimps how to get young broken lost girls. Which is what he did. Everyone back then was searching and exploring.
Manson romanced the girls, sang/played his music and present a vision of utopia, also using a little bit of drugs. Like pimps do. It opens the mind for someone to get into your soul. Then sex, and the girls started feeling like they belonged somewhere. He wasn't abusive and many said they really felt a strong sense of love.
Then the guys started sniffing around seeing these cute free go with the wind girls, and the same thing insude with the guys.
.
Even people investigating Manson said when he came into the room you could feel the energy change and it felt like some kind of electricity was coming from him.

.

I would not want to attempt to be near something like him.

.

.

But I assume there are people like this (on the good side as well) I sure thought of Uptown when I would hear certain examples of how he got them together.

PeteSilas said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Well basically Manson learned from pimps how to get young broken lost girls. Which is what he did. Everyone back then was searching and exploring.
Manson romanced the girls, sang/played his music and present a vision of utopia, also using a little bit of drugs. Like pimps do. It opens the mind for someone to get into your soul. Then sex, and the girls started feeling like they belonged somewhere. He wasn't abusive and many said they really felt a strong sense of love.
Then the guys started sniffing around seeing these cute free go with the wind girls, and the same thing insude with the guys.
.
Even people investigating Manson said when he came into the room you could feel the energy change and it felt like some kind of electricity was coming from him.

.

I would not want to attempt to be near something like him.

.

.

But I assume there are people like this (on the good side as well) I sure thought of Uptown when I would hear certain examples of how he got them together.

it's mainly charisma, as far as the electricity i recall e part of the movie about Jesse James where they say people claimed the temperature in the rooms rose when he came in, I believe those kinds of things. Whether it's spriritual or some intuitive knowledge of manipulation, who knows. they say Manson was doing what was later called "mirroring" way back then and no way he had any education on that. Prince? Uptown? In retrospect he wasn't that bad was he? As for me, the guru I fell for was largely harmless thank god. but.., fuck em all.

yeah, I do too.


No with Prince I'm dealing with the neutral aspects of that kind of draw. (on the good side as well) I think we've all experienced it in different parts of life. But Prince had that 'it' thing that mesmerized people too. It was heavy in the 1979-1988 period,

yep

peggyon said:

Sounds like psychopathic electricity.

He looked for girls with "broken wings". Pimp

OldFriends4Sale said:

Well basically Manson learned from pimps how to get young broken lost girls. Which is what he did. Everyone back then was searching and exploring.
Manson romanced the girls, sang/played his music and present a vision of utopia, also using a little bit of drugs. Like pimps do. It opens the mind for someone to get into your soul. Then sex, and the girls started feeling like they belonged somewhere. He wasn't abusive and many said they really felt a strong sense of love.
Then the guys started sniffing around seeing these cute free go with the wind girls, and the same thing insude with the guys.
.
Even people investigating Manson said when he came into the room you could feel the energy change and it felt like some kind of electricity was coming from him.

.

I would not want to attempt to be near something like him.

.

.

But I assume there are people like this (on the good side as well) I sure thought of Uptown when I would hear certain examples of how he got them together.

Cincinnati's favorite son

I've always been fascinated by these strange cults and stranger cult leaders also... I had a near-miss experience with a religious group that came close to being a cult when I was 19 years old... I joined a Chistian group when I moved to Key West and I really liked the fact that no one was over the age of 30 and most of the members were ex-hippies. They seemed to be devoted to living like the early followers of Christ, stressing love for one another and communal living. Everything was great until I met the founder of the church, who came down from Pennsylvania. I only met him one time at a dinner (and a weird speaking in tongues healing service) but I had strange vibes from this guy the moment I met him; something seemed off and was even more apparent (to me) as the evening progressed. He must have felt that I thought something was off because he gave me a cold shoulder to questions I asked later on.

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Long story short, this group could have turned into a cult...but it didn't. Even the members in other cities realized that something was "off" because of bizarre recordings sent through the mail, an epiphany sent by God (apparently!) that the leader should hook up with a church in Israel and he was de-railed when they didn't accept his teachings, and the worst thing of all--the Elders at the mother church found out this guy (in his late 40s) was sleeping with their daughters, telling them that it was God's will for them to be the leader's handmaidens... In this instance, the spiritual organization threw the founder out and continued on. But, so many don't...

[Edited 9/23/18 5:23am]

interesting. i wish there were more positively inclined folks with that kind of charismatic power.

purplethunder3121 said:

I've always been fascinated by these strange cults and stranger cult leaders also... I had a near-miss experience with a religious group that came close to being a cult when I was 19 years old... I joined a Chistian group when I moved to Key West and I really liked the fact that no one was over the age of 30 and most of the members were ex-hippies. They seemed to be devoted to living like the early followers of Christ, stressing love for one another and communal living. Everything was great until I met the founder of the church, who came down from Pennsylvania. I only met him one time at a dinner (and a weird speaking in tongues healing service) but I had strange vibes from this guy the moment I met him; something seemed off and was even more apparent (to me) as the evening progressed. He must have felt that I thought something was off because he gave me a cold shoulder to questions I asked later on.

.

Long story short, this group could have turned into a cult...but it didn't. Even the members in other cities realized that something was "off" because of bizarre recordings sent through the mail, an epiphany sent by God (apparently!) that the leader should hook up with a church in Israel and he was de-railed when they didn't accept his teachings, and the worst thing of all--the Elders at the mother church found out this guy (in his late 40s) was sleeping with their daughters, telling them that it was God's will for them to be the leader's handmaidens... In this instance, the spiritual organization threw the founder out and continued on. But, so many don't...

[Edited 9/23/18 5:23am]

Sounds like the cult that Joaquin Phoenix´s parents used to be members of.

XxAxX said:

XxAxX said:

interesting. i wish there were more positively inclined folks with that kind of charismatic power.

there probably are but people being people, those kinds of folks don't get the attention. We like to hear more about a jonestown than we would about a real eden. As for me? My mentor was a Japanese man, best friend of icon,, Bruce Lee. Why I fell for him? I think the main reason was that my father died when I was 9 and left me scarred and looking for daddy figures. My mentor wasn't a bad person, he just wasn't what he said he was, in fact, in every single way, he was the opposite of what he spouted. He only cared about what everyone else does in this society, money and power. Thank god he was harmless. I really don't think I'd have ever been manipulated into doing anything bad but.., you never know. I was always rebellious enough by nature, and only a guy as somewhat kind would put up with that. In fact, these days, i think about it alot, and I wouldn't have even put up with myself in my 20's, he did so god bless him for that. But we don't speak anymore, he's 94 with alzheimers and don't even know if he'd know me anymore. I saw him a couple weeks ago at a martial arts school that I drove by, I thought of going to speak with him but decided against it. Maybe god was trying to teach me to stop looking for my father in other men, since then, I sorta became my own father.

Manson my boy.

KoolEaze said:

purplethunder3121 said:

I've always been fascinated by these strange cults and stranger cult leaders also... I had a near-miss experience with a religious group that came close to being a cult when I was 19 years old... I joined a Chistian group when I moved to Key West and I really liked the fact that no one was over the age of 30 and most of the members were ex-hippies. They seemed to be devoted to living like the early followers of Christ, stressing love for one another and communal living. Everything was great until I met the founder of the church, who came down from Pennsylvania. I only met him one time at a dinner (and a weird speaking in tongues healing service) but I had strange vibes from this guy the moment I met him; something seemed off and was even more apparent (to me) as the evening progressed. He must have felt that I thought something was off because he gave me a cold shoulder to questions I asked later on.

.

Long story short, this group could have turned into a cult...but it didn't. Even the members in other cities realized that something was "off" because of bizarre recordings sent through the mail, an epiphany sent by God (apparently!) that the leader should hook up with a church in Israel and he was de-railed when they didn't accept his teachings, and the worst thing of all--the Elders at the mother church found out this guy (in his late 40s) was sleeping with their daughters, telling them that it was God's will for them to be the leader's handmaidens... In this instance, the spiritual organization threw the founder out and continued on. But, so many don't...

[Edited 9/23/18 5:23am]

Sounds like the cult that Joaquin Phoenix´s parents used to be members of.

The Family is the name I believe

OldFriends4Sale said:

KoolEaze said:

Sounds like the cult that Joaquin Phoenix´s parents used to be members of.

The Family is the name I believe

Is that the group that use to do a ministry called "flirty fishing"?

2freaky4church1 said:

Manson my boy.

Any relations??????????