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Anybody do "cloud" gaming? Any of the avid gamers here - I heard about this, just wanna know if any of you guys do it? Is it any good? | |
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I'm not even sure what cloud gaming is but my brother has something called PlayStation Now, which is basically like a streaming service for games. There's no download required so the games don't take up space on his hard drive. I personally don't even like streaming music so that kind of thing is not for me. | |
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I'm not familiar with consoles - is that for a Playstation, like, the console, or some kind of handheld? | |
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domainator2010 said: I'm not familiar with consoles - is that for a Playstation, like, the console, or some kind of handheld? It's for the ps4. It works kind of like Netflix, only its for games. He pays a subscription fee and can stream and play a whole load of PlayStation 3 and PlayStation 4 games for no additional cost and because its a streaming service, it doesn't take up storage space on the PlayStations hard drive. | |
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Hmm. I'm sorry you guys feel negatively about it - to *me*, it sounds like just the kind of thing the software industry should move to. | |
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domainator2010 said: Hmm. I'm sorry you guys feel negatively about it - to *me*, it sounds like just the kind of thing the software industry should move to. Streaming from the cloud means you don't own the product so in the case of the PlayStation Now service, if Sony decided to shut up shop tomorrow, you're left with nothing and no way to continue using the service. I much prefer the "old fashioned" model of buying something and owning it. I still own my Super Nintendo that I got when I was 4 years old and I still play it to this day, 24 years later. If Nintendo went out of business tomorrow, I'd still own that console and all its games. However, if Sony decides to shut down its PlayStation division, my brother would have nothing because he doesn't own the games he plays, he's just leasing them from Sony until they decide to stop. | |
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But doesn't this model have benefits too? Maybe the cost would turn out to be less than buying the game outright? And also, if the game is running on <humungous horsepower> at the back end, you could possibly see graphical quality your *own* machine doesn't have the power to give you....? | |
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domainator2010 said: But doesn't this model have benefits too? Maybe the cost would turn out to be less than buying the game outright? And also, if the game is running on <humungous horsepower> at the back end, you could possibly see graphical quality your *own* machine doesn't have the power to give you....? In theory, it works out cheaper but that's true with all things. Renting is always cheaper than buying but it would never be my first choice. I've never rented anything where I had the option to buy. The graphical quality of a game is probably the least important thing. Super Mario 64 looks awful when compared to modern games and yet, it's still a far better game than the latest "ultra realistic" games you can get on high end PCs. Unfortunately, the whole streaming thing does seem to be the way the industry is heading because its cheaper for the games makers and its also easier for them to monetize their games. As things stand, there are limits to what Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo will allow when it comes to games publishers adding in microtransactions that exist solely for the purpose of bleeding their customers dry. But if we ever get to the stage whereby traditional games consoles don't exist, then there is no barrier to prevent certain greedy publishers from providing a barebones game and then charging over the odds for the "complete" experience. When games do end up like this, that's when I'll stop playing them. But at least I'll still have my old Nintendo, which I own, to keep me busy | |
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Ah, but it is in fact for this reason that we're having this conversation! I read this couple of days back:
https://variety.com/2018/...202833926/ | |
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domainator2010 said:
Ah, but it is in fact for this reason that we're having this conversation! I read this couple of days back:
https://variety.com/2018/...202833926/ Yeah, that Ubisoft guy is probably jumping the gun a bit. It will probably happen at some stage but the next consoles will be launching within the next 2 years and they generally have a 6 year lifespan so he's suggesting that by the year 2026 gaming will move to a streaming model. It definitely won't be that soon. The type of Internet connection needed for that won't be so widespread by them. Maybe by about 2036. I don't think it's an immediate concern for console manufacturers. But when it does happen, funnily enough it will be your old pals at Microsoft who will benefit most because if most gaming is done on PCs, they're the big winners. Pretty much every division within Sony is losing money apart from the PlayStation division so if there's no more PlayStation, they're pretty much fucked. And Nintendo ONLY have a games division. Although they are reliably old fashioned so I still think they will stick with the home console business model and cater to those who don't want to stream their games. Internet speeds in Ireland are kind of all over the place. Where I live in Dublin, I get a 1000mb FTTH broadband connection. But its expensive, as everything in Ireland is. But if you go to the west of Ireland, there are places there where the fastest speeds available are 1mb and other places where broadband simply isn't available at all. | |
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domainator2010 said:
Yes :-D But most people don't want to play on tiny phone screens. That's why they buy big 4k HDR TVs. Imagine playing a game like The Witcher 3 on a phone screen. It would lose its sense of magic. Of course, smart TVs are ten-a-penny nowadays so people could just use those to stream but that's assuming that the average person knows how to use all but their TV's basic functions. And I can tell you they don't. Take my fiancé as an example. Very intelligent man. Masters degree in finance and economics. He's also a walking calculator. When I was in hospital he logged in to my org account to let people know how I was. It took him about half an hour just to log in and then a further hour to figure out how to post a reply to the thread I had started. In the end he had to call my brother and ask him how to do it. Not everyone is comfortable with technology. People generally don't like change. | |
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Ah here in India, a TON of people have Android phones - that's where the market is. Most people here are too poor to afford 4K HDR TVs. | |
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Yes, it could. *I*, personally, have no idea what "Azure" is, I've just heard the name, and that it's something to do with "cloud".
Are you a programmer, Joris? | |
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domainator2010 said: Ah here in India, a TON of people have Android phones - that's where the market is. Most people here are too poor to afford 4K HDR TVs. Yeah everyone here has smart phones too but nobody wants to play games on them. Unless they're those shitty mobile games like Angry Birds or whatever. But they don't count. | |
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So - what exactly IS "cloud" then? YOU can probably explain it better to us than most...? | |
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I tried to but really suck at gaming. I like the concept but just not good enough a Jedi. What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet? | |
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I like it. I use Playstation Play. Its 20.00 a month and a good chunck of games I can stream! The only problem is if there are too many using the Wifi in the house (like when my roomates are watching a movie) I cant use it vice versa Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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paisleypark4 said:
I like it. I use Playstation Play. Its 20.00 a month and a good chunck of games I can stream! The only problem is if there are too many using the Wifi in the house (like when my roomates are watching a movie) I cant use it vice versa There's a download option coming in September for people (like me) who don't like streaming. 20 quid a month is a bit much though considering the Xbox equivalent is only half the cost of that. | |
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