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Thread started 04/05/18 7:40am

morningsong

Dockless Bikes

This has become a pretty big controversy here.

A couple of months ago, well more like 3 now, these green bikes started showing up all over the city . Just kind randomly left standing on the sidewalks. I noticed because they literally were everywhere include the hoods, I saw them no matter where I went and it looked funny to have this random bike just setting there. Then these yellow bikes began appearing, the same thing. Then these Orange bikes began appearing. Lots of questions started. Who's doing this. Seems to be 3 separate companies. Supposedly you download an app and you can unlock the bikes to use as you need them $1a mile I think, and you just leave it for the next person.

Problem they are just left anywhere on sidewalks unlike the bikes downtown where they have to be docked in designed spots. Some more wealthier communities have voted to have law enforcement remove the bikes, but the bikes still are being distributed. I have noticed that they do get picked up if the sit in the same spot for days on end.

My question is how common is this happening elsewhere? Are we the guinea pigs? I kinda of found it amusing but I can see the annoyance in having this bike in front of your house.
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Reply #1 posted 04/05/18 7:46am

TheFman

1$ a mile for a bike? Wow, my cabs are cheaper and i dont need to drive it myself!

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Reply #2 posted 04/05/18 8:08am

morningsong

I could be wrong I've never used them. Only really perked my ears when the complaints started.
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Reply #3 posted 04/05/18 8:33am

poppys

Hadn't heard of this yet but I do not care if a bike is parked outside my house. People move to cities and want their space.

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Reply #4 posted 04/05/18 3:59pm

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interesting idea. i can see where it might cause a bit of controversy though

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Reply #5 posted 04/05/18 4:46pm

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http://www.limebike.com/de/

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Reply #6 posted 04/06/18 8:08am

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they are all over Dallas Texas. And there are maybe 5 different companies. They are a pain. And I have seen people on them with the lock broken off...free bike!

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Reply #7 posted 04/06/18 8:09am

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TheFman said:

1$ a mile for a bike? Wow, my cabs are cheaper and i dont need to drive it myself!

$1 an hour

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Reply #8 posted 04/06/18 8:10am

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poppys said:

Hadn't heard of this yet but I do not care if a bike is parked outside my house. People move to cities and want their space.

it is not just ONE but in some cases 10 or more... all over the place.

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Reply #9 posted 04/06/18 8:16am

morningsong

KoolEaze said:

http://www.limebike.com/de/




Oh so we're being invaded. That Swedish?

Good we're not the guinea pigs. And they must have some idea what they're doing. I've seen people using them. I guess it takes getting used to. What I find fun there wasn't a word advertised, they just appeared. They're aren't even advertised now.
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Reply #10 posted 04/06/18 8:47am

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morningsong said:

KoolEaze said:

http://www.limebike.com/de/

Oh so we're being invaded. That Swedish? Good we're not the guinea pigs. And they must have some idea what they're doing. I've seen people using them. I guess it takes getting used to. What I find fun there wasn't a word advertised, they just appeared. They're aren't even advertised now.

Nah, it´s actually us who´s being invaded...the company is American and I see their bikes everywhere now.

In some other countries they are already having problems with all those bikes just being left everywhere. But I think that has nothing to do with limebike....different company.

" I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?"
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Reply #11 posted 04/06/18 10:34am

morningsong

KoolEaze said:

morningsong said:

KoolEaze said: Oh so we're being invaded. That Swedish? Good we're not the guinea pigs. And they must have some idea what they're doing. I've seen people using them. I guess it takes getting used to. What I find fun there wasn't a word advertised, they just appeared. They're aren't even advertised now.

Nah, it´s actually us who´s being invaded...the company is American and I see their bikes everywhere now.

In some other countries they are already having problems with all those bikes just being left everywhere. But I think that has nothing to do with limebike....different company.



And no big rollout advertising campaign, big sparkly signs saying try our great idea and stuff? Can't be. Just "poof" here, enjoy. That's funny.

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Reply #12 posted 04/06/18 11:23am

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morningsong said:

KoolEaze said:

Nah, it´s actually us who´s being invaded...the company is American and I see their bikes everywhere now.

In some other countries they are already having problems with all those bikes just being left everywhere. But I think that has nothing to do with limebike....different company.



And no big rollout advertising campaign, big sparkly signs saying try our great idea and stuff? Can't be. Just "poof" here, enjoy. That's funny.

That´s exactly what I´ve been thinking, too.

All of a sudden, they are everywhere.

It´s like a sci-fi flic.

lol

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Reply #13 posted 04/06/18 1:30pm

poppys

In New Orleans, we had a bike company come to town last year. You can pay by the hour, day or month (which is really cheap). They are parked in docks everywhere. We also have lots of people who don't have cars here. They use their own bikes as transportation and lock them up where they can. People have no problem with cars parked everywhere, why are bikes a problem? I don't get it.

Blue Bikes congregate at the Lafitte Greenway during a celebration to mark the official start of New Orleans' first bike-share program Dec. 5, 2017. (Photo by Beau Evans, NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune)

Blue Bikes congregate at the Lafitte Greenway during a celebration to mark the official start of New Orleans' first bike-share program Dec. 5, 2017. (Photo by Beau Evans, NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune)

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Reply #14 posted 04/06/18 2:30pm

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poppys said:

In New Orleans, we had a bike company come to town last year. You can pay by the hour, day or month (which is really cheap). They are parked in docks everywhere. We also have lots of people who don't have cars here. They use their own bikes as transportation and lock them up where they can. People have no problem with cars parked everywhere, why are bikes a problem? I don't get it.

Blue Bikes congregate at the Lafitte Greenway during a celebration to mark the official start of New Orleans' first bike-share program Dec. 5, 2017. (Photo by Beau Evans, NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune)

Blue Bikes congregate at the Lafitte Greenway during a celebration to mark the official start of New Orleans' first bike-share program Dec. 5, 2017. (Photo by Beau Evans, NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune)



Yeah, we have docked bikes, but those are primarily in the downtown, the beaches or in a few random small communities in the city. The major thing that caught my attention about the dockless bikes is that they are literally everywhere in the city, even in what would be considered the worse areas as well as the best or tourist-y areas in the city.

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Reply #15 posted 04/06/18 2:50pm

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morningsong said:

poppys said:

In New Orleans, we had a bike company come to town last year. You can pay by the hour, day or month (which is really cheap). They are parked in docks everywhere. We also have lots of people who don't have cars here. They use their own bikes as transportation and lock them up where they can. People have no problem with cars parked everywhere, why are bikes a problem? I don't get it.



Blue Bikes congregate at the Lafitte Greenway during a celebration to mark the official start of New Orleans' first bike-share program Dec. 5, 2017.



Yeah, we have docked bikes, but those are primarily in the downtown, the beaches or in a few random small communities in the city. The major thing that caught my attention about the dockless bikes is that they are literally everywhere in the city, even in what would be considered the worse areas as well as the best or tourist-y areas in the city.

I don't know about where you are, but here people do all kinds of business on bikes. Pay bills, grocery shopping, transportation to work. Why is having a bike service a problem and who cares what area the person left the bike in? Maybe the same person will rent it later. Again, why is this a problem? I'm happy people have bikes to get around. Many are grown people with kids and older people too. I'm really going to care if a bike gets parked on the sidewalk outside my place? Why? People who want visual perfection and don't like to share needn't live in a city.

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Reply #17 posted 04/06/18 3:18pm

morningsong

poppys said:

morningsong said:



Yeah, we have docked bikes, but those are primarily in the downtown, the beaches or in a few random small communities in the city. The major thing that caught my attention about the dockless bikes is that they are literally everywhere in the city, even in what would be considered the worse areas as well as the best or tourist-y areas in the city.

I don't know about where you are, but here people do all kinds of business on bikes. Pay bills, grocery shopping, transportation to work. Why is having a bike service a problem and who cares what area the person left the bike in? Maybe the same person will rent it later. Again, why is this a problem? I'm happy people have bikes to get around. Many are grown people with kids and older people too. I'm really going to care if a bike gets parked on the sidewalk outside my place? Why? People who want visual perfection and don't like to share needn't live in a city.



This has never been a bike friendly city, one needs a car or will have their access to many things seriously limited. Over the last few years there has been a serious push to make this a more bike friendly city, more bike lanes, all buses have bike racks(2) and such. That's when the docked bikes showed up, but only in certain areas like I said earlier which is the trend for a lot of things in these parts. I think the "problem" is bigger than what people are willing to publically say, but I can see where just having a random bike on the sidewalk on a residential street can be annoying especially when aesthetics and curb appeal are a major priority. People are in a serious uproar about vacation rental homes in their neighborhoods too for the same reasons. But I personally see it as making it easier for people to get out their cars especially for short runs, or even long runs using public transportation.

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Reply #18 posted 04/06/18 3:40pm

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morningsong said:

poppys said:

I don't know about where you are, but here people do all kinds of business on bikes. Pay bills, grocery shopping, transportation to work. Why is having a bike service a problem and who cares what area the person left the bike in? Maybe the same person will rent it later. Again, why is this a problem? I'm happy people have bikes to get around. Many are grown people with kids and older people too. I'm really going to care if a bike gets parked on the sidewalk outside my place? Why? People who want visual perfection and don't like to share needn't live in a city.



This has never been a bike friendly city, one needs a car or will have their access to many things seriously limited. Over the last few years there has been a serious push to make this a more bike friendly city, more bike lanes, all buses have bike racks(2) and such. That's when the docked bikes showed up, but only in certain areas like I said earlier which is the trend for a lot of things in these parts. I think the "problem" is bigger than what people are willing to publically say, but I can see where just having a random bike on the sidewalk on a residential street can be annoying especially when aesthetics and curb appeal are a major priority. People are in a serious uproar about vacation rental homes in their neighborhoods too for the same reasons. But I personally see it as making it easier for people to get out their cars especially for short runs, or even long runs using public transportation.


That is exactly what I am talking about. Why are asthetics and curb appeal a major priority? Vacation rental homes are basically hotels, temporary housing. Citizens ride bikes. Citizens who keep things going.

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Reply #19 posted 04/06/18 4:18pm

morningsong

poppys said:

morningsong said:



This has never been a bike friendly city, one needs a car or will have their access to many things seriously limited. Over the last few years there has been a serious push to make this a more bike friendly city, more bike lanes, all buses have bike racks(2) and such. That's when the docked bikes showed up, but only in certain areas like I said earlier which is the trend for a lot of things in these parts. I think the "problem" is bigger than what people are willing to publically say, but I can see where just having a random bike on the sidewalk on a residential street can be annoying especially when aesthetics and curb appeal are a major priority. People are in a serious uproar about vacation rental homes in their neighborhoods too for the same reasons. But I personally see it as making it easier for people to get out their cars especially for short runs, or even long runs using public transportation.


That is exactly what I am talking about. Why are asthetics and curb appeal a major priority? Vacation rental homes are basically hotels, temporary housing. Citizens ride bikes. Citizens who keep things going.



Los Angeles is a hop skip and a jump away, and this city tries very very hard not to become LA despite it growing rapidly.

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Reply #20 posted 04/07/18 12:38pm

poppys

morningsong said:

poppys said:


That is exactly what I am talking about. Why are asthetics and curb appeal a major priority? Vacation rental homes are basically hotels, temporary housing. Citizens ride bikes. Citizens who keep things going.



Los Angeles is a hop skip and a jump away, and this city tries very very hard not to become LA despite it growing rapidly.


I have no idea what that means in regards to people parking "undocked" bikes in a US city, not mine thankfully.

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Reply #21 posted 04/07/18 3:24pm

morningsong

poppys said:



morningsong said:




poppys said:




That is exactly what I am talking about. Why are asthetics and curb appeal a major priority? Vacation rental homes are basically hotels, temporary housing. Citizens ride bikes. Citizens who keep things going.





Los Angeles is a hop skip and a jump away, and this city tries very very hard not to become LA despite it growing rapidly.




I have no idea what that means in regards to people parking "undocked" bikes in a US city, not mine thankfully.




I guess it's hard to explain beyond you know living in NO the dynamics and history make it unique to other cities. L.A. isn't like N.Y., N.Y. isn't like San Fran as San Fran isn't like Dallas. As I've said the whole bike friendly thing is new here looking at that map on how the bikes are distributed SoCal has the highest percentage in the country while NoCal has the lowest, it's the same State but the cities are used to different things and live different ways.
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