Just wanted to make a thread reminded Superhero movie lovers that Justice League comes out today on dvd/bluray.I'll get my copy sometime today.I saw it in theatre,so its gonna be even better seeing it in 4K

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I got the Art of the movie for Christmas

I'll be picking up my copy today too!!

They are finally showing Superman in the promos and on the cover. Worse kept secret ever like Superman won't come back alive. Honestly hated killing Superman, just ruined it for starting a Justice league movie

The Death of Superman was done way better on the Superfriends (Superpowers Team: Galactic Guardians) than Batman V Superman/Justice League movie

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kpowers said:

EmmaMcG said:

kpowers said:

They are finally showing Superman in the promos and on the cover. Worse kept secret ever like Superman won't come back alive. Honestly hated killing Superman, just ruined it for starting a Justice league movie

They killed him far too early. They should have given him a full on sequel to Man of Steel first to build up his reputation on Earth so that when they DO kill him, it would have more impact. During that time they could have done a solo Batman movie where they'd go into a bit more detail regarding his own issues following the death of Robin, Harvey Dent turning to crime etc. It's all well and good alluding to all that with a single line of dialogue in Dawn of Justice but had we had a full movie that would show the impact these moments had on him, it would have amped up the drama a bit more and provided us with a reason for his distrust of Superman.

In the DC Universe he returned with a black/steele outfit

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Picked up the Target exclusive "book" version for the wife today.

How much was that? I missed that, I didn't want the regular Blu Ray

djThunderfunk said:

Picked up the Target exclusive "book" version for the wife today.

OldFriends4Sale said:

How much was that? I missed that, I didn't want the regular Blu Ray

djThunderfunk said:

Picked up the Target exclusive "book" version for the wife today.

$27.99. I usually don't go for exlusive packaging, I prefer exclusive content, but we have the Target book versions for Man Of Steel, Batman v Superman & Wonder Woman, so they make a nice set on the shelf.

Didn't like the actress who played Mera

This film was let down by a few things but top of the list was its utterly bland villain.

And I still contend having Superman in these films negates any threat you can put in front of the heroes. I get he's a classic character but he's just too overpowered, it turns things in to a bit of a yawn fest.

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kpowers said:

DaveT said:

DaveT said:

dance4me3121 said:

EmmaMcG said:

dance4me3121 said:

I honestly don't remember who the villian was in the justice league movie.

He was that big compilation of awful CGI. Not to be confused with the big compilation of awful CGI that appeared in Batman vs Superman or the big compilation of awful CGI from Suicide Squad or the big compilation of awful CGI from Wonder Woman.

Blame WB and their money hungry let's-rush-these-movies-to-secure-our-year-end-bonuses execs for all that...
Not to mention that WB demanded a frustrated Snyder to make a Superman movie with Batman in it when he initially wanted to make "Man Of Steel 2" to flesh out Superman...
WB mandated all the reshoots with "funny" garbage and stupid music in "Suicide Squad" (a la that shitty "Guardians Of The Galaxy") instead of the original almost R-rated gritty aggression what David Ayer usually makes...
WB demanded reshoots and then rushed "Wonder Woman" to release so the ending wasn't as polished as the CGI team wanted because no time left...
WB demanded the reshoots and mandated the 2 hour runtime of "Justice League" with bullshit unfinished CGI (to much frustration and anger of the CGI artists) and weak, dated music (which was good for the original movies but totally unrelated and completely incoherent and ill fitting to these versions of the characters and movie universe...) and the completely shitty direction by the shitty Joss Whedon who in the process degraded "Wonder Woman" to just a weak piece of ass, like that misogynist piece of shit always wanted... (Read his old script for a "Wonder Woman" movie to see what this fucking cunt really thinks about that character and other female superhero characters...)

DC movies are the pinnacle of Corporate franchise garbage, like McDonalds... No serious director should ever come near the DC movie universe... A serious director should just make DC standalones that have nothing to do with that "universe" without letting WB demand anything... Won't happen and DC will keep degrading over time untill WB sells it off to a company who does care...

Neversin.

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EmmaMcG said:

dance4me3121 said:

I honestly don't remember who the villian was in the justice league movie.

He was that big compilation of awful CGI. Not to be confused with the big compilation of awful CGI that appeared in Batman vs Superman or the big compilation of awful CGI from Suicide Squad or the big compilation of awful CGI from Wonder Woman.

Yeah those are just not interesting.

Lex Luthor in Superman Returns was good

But why not give us the Greek Ares for Wonderwoman, not some English demon

The Injustice League has some pretty cool characters.

Wasn't Cheetah an Amazon?

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EmmaMcG said:

DaveT said:

This film was let down by a few things but top of the list was its utterly bland villain.

And I still contend having Superman in these films negates any threat you can put in front of the heroes. I get he's a classic character but he's just too overpowered, it turns things in to a bit of a yawn fest.

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I see what you're saying but the Justice League animated series is proof that having Superman on the team CAN work. You just need someone who knows what they're doing to be writing the script. Which is why I think that they would have been better off getting the writers of the Justice League animated series to do the movie.

Yes, or, I don't know, writers of the comics?

Neversin said:

EmmaMcG said:

dance4me3121 said: He was that big compilation of awful CGI. Not to be confused with the big compilation of awful CGI that appeared in Batman vs Superman or the big compilation of awful CGI from Suicide Squad or the big compilation of awful CGI from Wonder Woman.

Blame WB and their money hungry let's-rush-these-movies-to-secure-our-year-end-bonuses execs for all that...
Not to mention that WB demanded a frustrated Snyder to make a Superman movie with Batman in it when he initially wanted to make "Man Of Steel 2" to flesh out Superman...
WB mandated all the reshoots with "funny" garbage and stupid music in "Suicide Squad" (a la that shitty "Guardians Of The Galaxy") instead of the original almost R-rated gritty aggression what David Ayer usually makes...
WB demanded reshoots and then rushed "Wonder Woman" to release so the ending wasn't as polished as the CGI team wanted because no time left...
WB demanded the reshoots and mandated the 2 hour runtime of "Justice League" with bullshit unfinished CGI (to much frustration and anger of the CGI artists) and weak, dated music (which was good for the original movies but totally unrelated and completely incoherent and ill fitting to these versions of the characters and movie universe...) and the completely shitty direction by the shitty Joss Whedon who in the process degraded "Wonder Woman" to just a weak piece of ass, like that misogynist piece of shit always wanted... (Read his old script for a "Wonder Woman" movie to see what this fucking cunt really thinks about that character and other female superhero characters...)

DC movies are the pinnacle of Corporate franchise garbage, like McDonalds... No serious director should ever come near the DC movie universe... A serious director should just make DC standalones that have nothing to do with that "universe" without letting WB demand anything... Won't happen and DC will keep degrading over time untill WB sells it off to a company who does care...

Neversin.

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I agree with much of what you said, except for the Whedon bashing. Are you privy to exacly what Whedon took away from Snyder's version that "degraded Wonder Woman"? Whedon created Buffy, she's a strong female protagonist. No?

Neversin said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

EmmaMcG said:

Neversin said:

Blame WB and their money hungry let's-rush-these-movies-to-secure-our-year-end-bonuses execs for all that...
Not to mention that WB demanded a frustrated Snyder to make a Superman movie with Batman in it when he initially wanted to make "Man Of Steel 2" to flesh out Superman...
WB mandated all the reshoots with "funny" garbage and stupid music in "Suicide Squad" (a la that shitty "Guardians Of The Galaxy") instead of the original almost R-rated gritty aggression what David Ayer usually makes...
WB demanded reshoots and then rushed "Wonder Woman" to release so the ending wasn't as polished as the CGI team wanted because no time left...
WB demanded the reshoots and mandated the 2 hour runtime of "Justice League" with bullshit unfinished CGI (to much frustration and anger of the CGI artists) and weak, dated music (which was good for the original movies but totally unrelated and completely incoherent and ill fitting to these versions of the characters and movie universe...) and the completely shitty direction by the shitty Joss Whedon who in the process degraded "Wonder Woman" to just a weak piece of ass, like that misogynist piece of shit always wanted... (Read his old script for a "Wonder Woman" movie to see what this fucking cunt really thinks about that character and other female superhero characters...)

DC movies are the pinnacle of Corporate franchise garbage, like McDonalds... No serious director should ever come near the DC movie universe... A serious director should just make DC standalones that have nothing to do with that "universe" without letting WB demand anything... Won't happen and DC will keep degrading over time untill WB sells it off to a company who does care...

Neversin.

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In fairness, when you're dealing with characters like Superman, there's only so far you can go down the "gritty" path. You can't have both Batman and Superman acting all dark and gritty. It works best when they are on opposite sides of that divide. But I agree that WB stuck their nose in where it didn't belong. There's no point in hiring any filmmaker and then standing over their shoulder making sure they do things a certain way. Just leave them to it. Joss Whedon actually has a decent history with female characters. Just look at Buffy or Firefly. Plus, I didn't see how he treated Wonder Woman any differently to how Patty Jenkins treated her. And personally, I think bringing back the real Batman and Superman themes was a masterstroke. James Bond has the same theme in every movie, Wong Fei Hung has the same theme in every movie, so why shouldn't Batman or Superman. Besides, those themes have NEVER been bettered in any other Batman or Superman movie so why not use them?

The best scene in Justice League is the scene near the beginning that's just Wonder Woman against the terrorists, so, I don't see Wonder Woman degraded by Whedon at all. I'm with you on Buffy & Firefly, until Avengers Age Of Ultron and the silly complaints about Black Widow's character, Whedon was known for strong females in his work.

EmmaMcG said:

In fairness, when you're dealing with characters like Superman, there's only so far you can go down the "gritty" path. You can't have both Batman and Superman acting all dark and gritty. It works best when they are on opposite sides of that divide. But I agree that WB stuck their nose in where it didn't belong. There's no point in hiring any filmmaker and then standing over their shoulder making sure they do things a certain way. Just leave them to it.

That was the whole point of Snyder's "Man Of Steel 2"; to have Superman find himself, but WB wanted "a sure thing" with Batman (the moneymaker) in the next movie after the disappointing results of "Man Of Steel"... Snyder had a plan and WB just wanted "Marvel-Money"...

Joss Whedon actually has a decent history with female characters. Just look at Buffy or Firefly. Plus, I didn't see how he treated Wonder Woman any differently to how Patty Jenkins treated her.

I don't see how Joss Whedon has a decent history with female characters since he just portrays them as "Men with tits" and take a good look at how Patty Jenkins portrays Wonder Woman and how Joss Whedon stripped her bare into some object of desire who's still hung up on some guy from 100 years ago...

And personally, I think bringing back the real Batman and Superman themes was a masterstroke. James Bond has the same theme in every movie, Wong Fei Hung has the same theme in every movie, so why shouldn't Batman or Superman. Besides, those themes have NEVER been bettered in any other Batman or Superman movie so why not use them?

Simply because there were already established better fitting themes for Superman and Batman by Hans Zimmer and JunkieXL... Why not use the themes people associate with these characters instead of drudging up dated themes that were cool back then but come off as fucking lame and corny when used in this movie?

Neversin.

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djThunderfunk said:

The best scene in Justice League is the scene near the beginning that's just Wonder Woman against the terrorists, so, I don't see Wonder Woman degraded by Whedon at all.

That was a Snyder scene... Whedon only changed the ending to the building not blowing up...

Neversin.

EmmaMcG said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Yeah those are just not interesting.

Lex Luthor in Superman Returns was good

But why not give us the Greek Ares for Wonderwoman, not some English demon

The Injustice League has some pretty cool characters.

Wasn't Cheetah an Amazon?

I know it's not fashionable to say anymore but I really like Kevin Spacey as an actor and he knocked it out of the part with his Lex Luthor. OK, he was basically playing Gene Hackman playing Lex Luthor but he was great in the role. I would much rather him reprise his role than have Jesse Eisenberg. Then again, I'd rather pretty much anyone than Jesse Eisenberg. I was hoping that they'd kill him off in Justice League and bring in Christoph Waltz as his father, Lex Luthor Sr. It could have made for an interesting plot point in that he would blame Superman for the death of his son and that could be the set up for Man of Steel 2. I'm not even sure who Cheetah is but I think I read she's going to be the villain in Wonder Woman 2. If they can resist having the big fight between the two turn into a big CGI-fest then it could be good.

dance4me3121 said:

kpowers said:

Didn't like the actress who played Mera

You don't like Amber Heard?!

That's her name? Thought her acting was bad

Neversin said: