babynoz said:

namepeace said:

Black moviegoers have always bought more movie tickets than its share of the population. Disney's need to expand the MCU just exposed the latent demand for a movie like Black Panther.

Given Hollywood's decidedly troubled history with Black America, this was a watershed moment that I hope is not a one-off.

A ripple effect of interest in black sci-fi/fantasy content creators such as Nnedi Okorafor is happening partly because of this film. Doors are opening more easily at the moment.

Good to know. Black Panther's green papers are getting Hollywood's attention!

I will say I wish they kept Ulysses Klaue around for a bit longer, another movie at least. He had me cracking up, nutcake supreme.

namepeace said:

babynoz said:

A ripple effect of interest in black sci-fi/fantasy content creators such as Nnedi Okorafor is happening partly because of this film. Doors are opening more easily at the moment.

Good to know. Black Panther's green papers are getting Hollywood's attention!

It sure is

morningsong said:

I will say I wish they kept Ulysses Klaue around for a bit longer, another movie at least. He had me cracking up, nutcake supreme.

Serkis' vilains don't stick around long, and leave you wanting more.

namepeace said:

morningsong said:

I will say I wish they kept Ulysses Klaue around for a bit longer, another movie at least. He had me cracking up, nutcake supreme.

Serkis' vilains don't stick around long, and leave you wanting more.

Well his first known villian hung around for a while, but I guess because he had his good moments.


Another minor thing I liked, and I think it's because the Mavel Uni has acknowledge it, they didn't destroy half a city just to do what they do. Yeah, a bunch of cars got messed up but not a bunch of buildings and stuff. That's become an issue with me and these types of movies.


And is Stan Lee supposedly the same guy in all of these? That would be hilarious in itself.

morningsong said:

namepeace said:

Serkis' vilains don't stick around long, and leave you wanting more.

Well his first known villian hung around for a while, but I guess because he had his good moments.

I should say, among his recent villains.

Another minor thing I liked, and I think it's because the Mavel Uni has acknowledge it, they didn't destroy half a city just to do what they do. Yeah, a bunch of cars got messed up but not a bunch of buildings and stuff. That's become an issue with me and these types of movies.

Right. That's been a huge problem with the big sequences throughout the MCU and DCEU films.


And is Stan Lee supposedly the same guy in all of these? That would be hilarious in itself.

I'll if that's the case.

namepeace said:

EmmaMcG said:

namepeace said:

Stan Lee actually is playing the same guy in the MCU movies in which he's appeared. It's more or less confirmed in one of the post credit scenes in Guardians of the Galaxy 2.

Awesome.

EmmaMcG said:

namepeace said:

Stan Lee actually is playing the same guy in the MCU movies in which he's appeared. It's more or less confirmed in one of the post credit scenes in Guardians of the Galaxy 2.

Yep...if he's not a Watcher himself, he is working with them to some extent.

babynoz said:

I saw Black Panther for the second time on Sunday. The first showing here was Thursday, not Friday and I was there with bells on, geeking the fkuc out!

They only had four showings per day last weekend. Two regular showings and 2 in 3D. By Sunday they had to add a dozen more show times, LOL!

This is one of the most well written, directed and acted movies of it's kind that I have seen in a very long time. There is a solid plot rather than a series of wisecracks between fight scenes and car chases like a lot of these films tend to have. The cinematography, scenery, costumes, hair, makeup, and music is breath-taking. Loved MBJ's performance but Chad Boseman really impressed me. He even nailed that accent...sooo African that he could pass for one except on the continent. I love when he says....

Zuri is everybody's little sister and I see a bright future for her in acting.








I could not get enough of the amazing Dora Milaje!

Damn. Makes me wanna cry. I'm so happy that they pulled it off(and in a major way). I still haven't seen it yet. I'm going to wait until the crowds die down a bit.


I've been a superhero fan since i was damn near able to talk, so I'm in heaven with all these superhero movies.

What they need to do though, is to make a Ultraman movie(big time, and i know there's a market for it). I'd loose my sh*t over that one.


Anyway, thanks for your comments, Babynoz. They made me even more excited to see this masterpiece.

By far the BEST Marvel superhero movie I´ve ever seen.

This movie is really deep.

And I´ve always liked the Black Panther comics so my expectations were not very high because I thought I´d probably be disappointed, especially because of all the hype but boy was I wrong.

Great, great movie.

Enjoyed every second of it.

If you loved this movie but have not seen Capt America Marvel Civil War, you must.
That is where the backstory of his father dying and the introduction of Black Panther starts.
And it is a GREAT movie. I cannot wait to see him in the next Marvel Avengers slot as a full on Super Hero

JoeyC said:

babynoz said:

I saw Black Panther for the second time on Sunday. The first showing here was Thursday, not Friday and I was there with bells on, geeking the fkuc out!

They only had four showings per day last weekend. Two regular showings and 2 in 3D. By Sunday they had to add a dozen more show times, LOL!

This is one of the most well written, directed and acted movies of it's kind that I have seen in a very long time. There is a solid plot rather than a series of wisecracks between fight scenes and car chases like a lot of these films tend to have. The cinematography, scenery, costumes, hair, makeup, and music is breath-taking. Loved MBJ's performance but Chad Boseman really impressed me. He even nailed that accent...sooo African that he could pass for one except on the continent. I love when he says....

Zuri is everybody's little sister and I see a bright future for her in acting.








I could not get enough of the amazing Dora Milaje!

Damn. Makes me wanna cry. I'm so happy that they pulled it off(and in a major way). I still haven't seen it yet. I'm going to wait until the crowds die down a bit.


I've been a superhero fan since i was damn near able to talk, so I'm in heaven with all these superhero movies.

What they need to do though, is to make a Ultraman movie(big time, and i know there's a market for it). I'd loose my sh*t over that one.


Anyway, thanks for your comments, Babynoz. They made me even more excited to see this masterpiece.

Hey, can't wait to hear your reaction!

My excitement was off the charts for a year and it exceeded my expectations.

KoolEaze said:

By far the BEST Marvel superhero movie I´ve ever seen.

This movie is really deep.

And I´ve always liked the Black Panther comics so my expectations were not very high because I thought I´d probably be disappointed, especially because of all the hype but boy was I wrong.

Great, great movie.

Enjoyed every second of it.

OldFriends4Sale said:

If you loved this movie but have not seen Capt America Marvel Civil War, you must.
That is where the backstory of his father dying and the introduction of Black Panther starts.
And it is a GREAT movie. I cannot wait to see him in the next Marvel Avengers slot as a full on Super Hero

Bring on Infinity War!


They actually moved the release date up.....wow.

Civil War was great. I hope people know by now that these films are interconnected and they have to stay until the end of the credits for sneak peeks of the next film too.

namepeace said:

babynoz said:

A ripple effect of interest in black sci-fi/fantasy content creators such as Nnedi Okorafor is happening partly because of this film. Doors are opening more easily at the moment.

Good to know. Black Panther's green papers are getting Hollywood's attention!

As of March 2nd, Worldwide.....$786,304,037

And counting..........

babynoz said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

If you loved this movie but have not seen Capt America Marvel Civil War, you must.
That is where the backstory of his father dying and the introduction of Black Panther starts.
And it is a GREAT movie. I cannot wait to see him in the next Marvel Avengers slot as a full on Super Hero

Bring on Infinity War!


They actually moved the release date up.....wow.

Civil War was great. I hope people know by now that these films are interconnected and they have to stay until the end of the credits for sneak peeks of the next film too.

Yes that ending with the Winter Soldier & Shuri was exciting

the beautiful Danai Gurira being in the movie balances it out lol

the Iowaian Zibabawan American

Yes wow, Disney's Black Panther really tapped into the pop culture consciousness, those numbers are huge! Disney are so good at invading the pop hero market, they turn all these properties into events now. The best thing is that salty DC fans are SEETHING with clenched teeth that a C-grade Disney hero is generating more bank than Justice League could, what an embarassment.

spacedolphin said:

Yes wow, Disney's Black Panther really tapped into the pop culture consciousness, those numbers are huge! Disney are so good at invading the pop hero market, they turn all these properties into events now. The best thing is that salty DC fans are SEETHING with clenched teeth that a C-grade Disney hero is generating more bank than Justice League could, what an embarassment.

And DC's Wonder Woman had a huge reception. Almost similar to Black Panther, both being introduced in previous franchise movies. I think the Justice Leage movie was too much too soon.
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DC focused on Superman and Batman only, for way too long. Wonderwoman was in the works for a LOOOONG time. And not enough other superheroes. Even if they just focused on Batman & Superman, those two have a wide hero connection that could have been buildt on: Superman and the Legion of Superheroes, Batman (and Robin) Batman and the Outsiders etc

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I'm a fan of both DC and Marvel.

But Marvel is killing it right now.

OldFriends4Sale said:

wonder505 said:

EmmaMcG said:

wonder505 said:

Things are mighty quiet on the DC side You could hear a pin drop. Good writing is where Marvel is killing 'em, where yes characters like Black Panther and even Deadpool come out on top. Not since Chris Nolan's Batman series have I been impressed with DC. They needed Wonder Woman to succeed.

Warner Bros completely fucked up with the DCEU. And that's coming from someone who liked both Batman V Superman and The Justice League movies. But just because I enjoyed them doesn't mean I can't see what went wrong. Studio interference killed Batman V Superman. Warner Bros made Zack Snyder cut a large portion of the movie because they felt it was too long and wanted a softer, pg 13 rating but in trimming those scenes they cut out vital parts of the story. The extended cut is by far a better movie despite the horrible CGI Doomsday but the damage was already done. And Suicide Squad didn't help either. Margot Robbie was perfect casting as Harley Quinn and they found a really good actor to play the Joker so in theory, they should have had a great movie on their hands where the Suicide Squad would be assembled to take out the Joker and Harley would be effectively used as bait to lure him out. But instead they relegated Joker to barely a cameo and instead opted for a CGI witch and her CGI brother as villains who must be stopped because of reasons. There really isn't much more to it than that. Massive opportunity squandered. Wonder Woman was great for 3 quarters of the movie until, lo and behold, another terrible CGI villain shows up for a fight. Still a very good movie but the last 20 minutes are pretty weak. Justice League was simultaneously great but also a disaster. Trying to mix Zack Snyder's dark tone he established in Man Of Steel and Batman V Superman with the lighthearted Joss Whedon additions made for a tonal abomination. Had either director made the movie alone it would have been great. The interactions between the team felt natural despite the rushed premise but ultimately, it was a movie stitched together and it shows. And look, another awful CGI villain. Aquaman is next for WB and DC but given what's come before, you'd be crazy to think it will be on par with Marvels best. And with Ben Affleck, who has been a true highlight of the DCEU so far, possibly not returning for the next Batman movie due to him wanting more creative control so he can prevent himself appearing in another disaster, and with Warner seemingly lacking a long term plan, perhaps the best thing they could do would be to use the Flashpoint movie to rewrite the entire thing and start again with a clear direction and competent filmmakers to bring these characters to the screen in a manner befitting their status.

Zack Synder needs to go away and I felt a movie about the Suicide Squad was totally unnecessary. Aquaman is a predicted flop.

i LOVE Angela, but after it is all said and done, the movie did not need her star power at all.
Just reflecting, she really did nothing for the role. The daughter Shuri, really shined as a supporting actor. I think Angela should have sat this one out and let someone else have a chance to shine. It would have gotten another upcoming or not so known actress a little more shine.

OldFriends4Sale said:

wonder505 said:

The Shape of Water was aquaman.

EmmaMcG said:

wonder505 said:

Things are mighty quiet on the DC side You could hear a pin drop. Good writing is where Marvel is killing 'em, where yes characters like Black Panther and even Deadpool come out on top. Not since Chris Nolan's Batman series have I been impressed with DC. They needed Wonder Woman to succeed.

Warner Bros completely fucked up with the DCEU. And that's coming from someone who liked both Batman V Superman and The Justice League movies. But just because I enjoyed them doesn't mean I can't see what went wrong. Studio interference killed Batman V Superman. Warner Bros made Zack Snyder cut a large portion of the movie because they felt it was too long and wanted a softer, pg 13 rating but in trimming those scenes they cut out vital parts of the story. The extended cut is by far a better movie despite the horrible CGI Doomsday but the damage was already done. And Suicide Squad didn't help either. Margot Robbie was perfect casting as Harley Quinn and they found a really good actor to play the Joker so in theory, they should have had a great movie on their hands where the Suicide Squad would be assembled to take out the Joker and Harley would be effectively used as bait to lure him out. But instead they relegated Joker to barely a cameo and instead opted for a CGI witch and her CGI brother as villains who must be stopped because of reasons. There really isn't much more to it than that. Massive opportunity squandered. Wonder Woman was great for 3 quarters of the movie until, lo and behold, another terrible CGI villain shows up for a fight. Still a very good movie but the last 20 minutes are pretty weak. Justice League was simultaneously great but also a disaster. Trying to mix Zack Snyder's dark tone he established in Man Of Steel and Batman V Superman with the lighthearted Joss Whedon additions made for a tonal abomination. Had either director made the movie alone it would have been great. The interactions between the team felt natural despite the rushed premise but ultimately, it was a movie stitched together and it shows. And look, another awful CGI villain. Aquaman is next for WB and DC but given what's come before, you'd be crazy to think it will be on par with Marvels best. And with Ben Affleck, who has been a true highlight of the DCEU so far, possibly not returning for the next Batman movie due to him wanting more creative control so he can prevent himself appearing in another disaster, and with Warner seemingly lacking a long term plan, perhaps the best thing they could do would be to use the Flashpoint movie to rewrite the entire thing and start again with a clear direction and competent filmmakers to bring these characters to the screen in a manner befitting their status.

I agree with a lot of what's been said here.

The problem is that the MCU caught WB and DC flat-footed. They had the properties but seemingly wasted a decade putting together DCEU. Marvel and Disney carefully and deliberately built the MCU over several films. By the time WB and DC woke up, they felt they had to pack everything into 2 films, with NO continuity from the Dark Knight trilogy.

Marvel made old-fashioned grits, DC made instant grits, and the difference showed.

Having a director, Zach Snyder, who prefers his characters work in the dark -- LITERALLY -- didn't help matters. He was on to the right ideas, but bless him, he couldn't get out of his own way, and the DCEU paid a critical price.