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Printablecareydevi said: sometimes, I guess?! I, for example, loathe afros and the hair black men have. I guess I don't find black men attractive becasue of this?!
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tackam said: Do people's attitudes about hair reflect racism? I've noticed in the few days I've had dreads that people keep commenting on how mine "aren't dirty like most of them." I've interpreted this as racist. Dreads are a traditionally (in this country, at least) black hairdo, and I really don't think that most people with dreads have dirty hair, so I'm thinking that people feel that way because of the race of the people typically sporting the 'do.
I wonder if black folks with dreads get those comments too. It might be revealing. . .do people feel safe saying these things to me 'cause I'm white, or does everyone with dreads get this reaction? What do you think? i really don't understand why you took it that way... a lot of people think that dreds don't get washed... i'd be very surprised if people's comments had anything to do with a "black" issue... i'm surprised that you would jump to that conclusion | |
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MrBliss said: tackam said: Do people's attitudes about hair reflect racism? I've noticed in the few days I've had dreads that people keep commenting on how mine "aren't dirty like most of them." I've interpreted this as racist. Dreads are a traditionally (in this country, at least) black hairdo, and I really don't think that most people with dreads have dirty hair, so I'm thinking that people feel that way because of the race of the people typically sporting the 'do.
I wonder if black folks with dreads get those comments too. It might be revealing. . .do people feel safe saying these things to me 'cause I'm white, or does everyone with dreads get this reaction? What do you think? i really don't understand why you took it that way... a lot of people think that dreds don't get washed... i'd be very surprised if people's comments had anything to do with a "black" issue... i'm surprised that you would jump to that conclusion Huh. Ok. I could be jumping to that conclusion wrongly. That's part of why I asked. The reason I took it that way is because people have this really negative sterotype about a harido that is traditionally sported by black folks, but maybe the thing about them being dirty has more to do with attitudes towards hippies than towards blacks. I'm really not sure. | |
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tackam said: MrBliss said: tackam said: Do people's attitudes about hair reflect racism? I've noticed in the few days I've had dreads that people keep commenting on how mine "aren't dirty like most of them." I've interpreted this as racist. Dreads are a traditionally (in this country, at least) black hairdo, and I really don't think that most people with dreads have dirty hair, so I'm thinking that people feel that way because of the race of the people typically sporting the 'do.
I wonder if black folks with dreads get those comments too. It might be revealing. . .do people feel safe saying these things to me 'cause I'm white, or does everyone with dreads get this reaction? What do you think? i really don't understand why you took it that way... a lot of people think that dreds don't get washed... i'd be very surprised if people's comments had anything to do with a "black" issue... i'm surprised that you would jump to that conclusion Huh. Ok. I could be jumping to that conclusion wrongly. That's part of why I asked. The reason I took it that way is because people have this really negative sterotype about a harido that is traditionally sported by black folks, but maybe the thing about them being dirty has more to do with attitudes towards hippies than towards blacks. I'm really not sure. i think it's probably more the hippie thing i LOVE dreds btw  | |
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Dreads are washable,but the thicker and longer they grow the more difficult it becomes to keep clean.There are certain deep cleaning shampoos on the market made just for this.Its not a black issue,its a laziness issue.
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crazyhorse said: Dreads are washable,but the thicker and longer they grow the more difficult it becomes to keep clean.There are certain deep cleaning shampoos on the market made just for this.Its not a black issue,its a laziness issue.
if you hair is short n nappy,make it long n happy I think the main thing is that it's a pain to get them dry. I bought my very first hairdryer anticipating that issue. But really, long hair is a pain to wash and dry whether it's knotty or not. | |
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MrBliss said: tackam said: MrBliss said: tackam said: Do people's attitudes about hair reflect racism? I've noticed in the few days I've had dreads that people keep commenting on how mine "aren't dirty like most of them." I've interpreted this as racist. Dreads are a traditionally (in this country, at least) black hairdo, and I really don't think that most people with dreads have dirty hair, so I'm thinking that people feel that way because of the race of the people typically sporting the 'do.
I wonder if black folks with dreads get those comments too. It might be revealing. . .do people feel safe saying these things to me 'cause I'm white, or does everyone with dreads get this reaction? What do you think? i really don't understand why you took it that way... a lot of people think that dreds don't get washed... i'd be very surprised if people's comments had anything to do with a "black" issue... i'm surprised that you would jump to that conclusion Huh. Ok. I could be jumping to that conclusion wrongly. That's part of why I asked. The reason I took it that way is because people have this really negative sterotype about a harido that is traditionally sported by black folks, but maybe the thing about them being dirty has more to do with attitudes towards hippies than towards blacks. I'm really not sure. i think it's probably more the hippie thing i LOVE dreds btw  
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tackam said: ian said: IceNine said: ian said: I don't know anyone with dreads, but yeah I guess it conjures up images of rasta-style dreads. You aren't supposed to wash them right? I'm sure plenty of people assume dreads = unclean, and I'd put it down to ignorance rather than racism.
I always wanted dreads Too late for me now!Go for it, Ian... get a goddamned hair transplant and a weave if you gotta... just do it!!! You CAN realize your dreams!  Too late... I'm happy with my baldness now. Plus I saw a documentary about hair transplants the other day and it was fucking awful. Have some dignity, go bald gracefully dammit! Ian, somehow I picture you looking sorta like Moby. Yeah I probably do look a bit like Moby... | |
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tackam said: MrBliss said: tackam said: Do people's attitudes about hair reflect racism? I've noticed in the few days I've had dreads that people keep commenting on how mine "aren't dirty like most of them." I've interpreted this as racist. Dreads are a traditionally (in this country, at least) black hairdo, and I really don't think that most people with dreads have dirty hair, so I'm thinking that people feel that way because of the race of the people typically sporting the 'do.
I wonder if black folks with dreads get those comments too. It might be revealing. . .do people feel safe saying these things to me 'cause I'm white, or does everyone with dreads get this reaction? What do you think? i really don't understand why you took it that way... a lot of people think that dreds don't get washed... i'd be very surprised if people's comments had anything to do with a "black" issue... i'm surprised that you would jump to that conclusion Huh. Ok. I could be jumping to that conclusion wrongly. That's part of why I asked. The reason I took it that way is because people have this really negative sterotype about a harido that is traditionally sported by black folks, but maybe the thing about them being dirty has more to do with attitudes towards hippies than towards blacks. I'm really not sure. I think you know what the deal is without getting your viewpoint validated by Prince.Org. Of course Dreads carry stigma due to the source they are appropriated from. It's an unwritten (or written) law in many work places that the style is unacceptable. To say there is no bias or prejudice (In addition to the some "scruffy whites wearing the style" cop out) is as ludicrous as having an all Indian jury rate the definitive World music album of the year or and all Swedish jury judge Miss World and all the varying standards of beauty found in the participants, or an all white southern USA jury judging an ethnic minority convict, OK the last one happens near enough too often but you get the point... until the world is seemlessly integrated (unlikely) these concerns should always remain for any right thinking person. | |
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SuperC said: teller said: IceNine said: If you live in America, every single possible thing that you can think of will make someone think that you are racist.
:LOL: When he posted that i pictured one person laughing for sure. I was right :LOL: Right, all is well in the USA and prejudice is a largely imagined concept. | |
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well when i wasa kid, my cousins would kinda sorta diss me. oh you think your'e cool cus you can swing your hair and blah blah blah. the whole good and bad hair thing played. | |
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Finess said: well when i wasa kid, my cousins would kinda sorta diss me. oh you think your'e cool cus you can swing your hair and blah blah blah. the whole good and bad hair thing played.
NO, "good/bad hair" prejudice DOES NOT exist. See my above message. All is well in the world, racism does not exist. Consider yourself enlightened, you didn't experience what you thought happened... | |
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tackam said: tommyalma said: I told you people would say dumb shit about your hair...fuck 'em.
Well, I'm not taking it personally. I love 'em and don't give a damn whether other people agree. And the comments have not been, "ooh, your hair is gross," they have been, "ooh, your hair is clean and smells nice, I thought dreads were dirty." I just think the racial aspect of it is interesting. I over-think everything, I'm afraid. FOR THE RECORD: Dreads can and should be washed regularly! Greasy, dirty hair doesn't lock well. And realize that dreads, especially new ones, have some un-knotted hair at the base, so it's not hard to wash your scalp at all. Also, for those of you who think that hippies are dirty, can I just say that just because somebody doesn't shop at the Gap and might wear worn or funky clothing doesn't mean they don't bathe! While I don't consider myself a hippie at all (I really dress more goth/punky, and I'm no flower child) I do know several, and they aren't any more dirty/stinky than anyone else. You shouldn't judge people like that just because of how they dress.  I certainly hope that's not what you think I was implying? I don't care where people shop! you couldn't pay me to shop at the gap myself! I love hippies! some bath and some don't, has nothing to do with how they dress...it's how they smell...hippy or not. "not a fan"  yeah...ok | |
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Seven years of wearing my hair that way I can't recall a comment like that. However, now that I've cut off my locks I wonder if someone will make me a job offer? No one offered to hire me, when I had them (well there was one possibility.) For interviews I would always wear my hair up in a really nice twisted bun, thought it looked professional, presentable... | |
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UptownDeb said: Seven years of wearing my hair that way I can't recall a comment like that. However, now that I've cut off my locks I wonder if someone will make me a job offer? No one offered to hire me, when I had them (well there was one possibility.) For interviews I would always wear my hair up in a really nice twisted bun, thought it looked professional, presentable...
May I ask, what is your ethnicity? | |
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Essence said: I think you know what the deal is without getting your viewpoint validated by Prince.Org. Of course Dreads carry stigma due to the source they are appropriated from. It's an unwritten (or written) law in many work places that the style is unacceptable. Yeah, my boss didn't say anything. She was, in fact, notably silent.
I didn't come here to get my viewpoint validated. I came here to get the opinions of others. I firmly believe that good thinking doesn't happen in solitude, but rather by bouncing ideas off of others and hearing their critisisms. The org is great for that. In the end, I'll still form my own opinion. And thank you for yours! Truly, much appreciated. | |
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The odd comments you're getting,it may be cause you're not black and have dreds, and therefore might look bloody ridiculous to some people.
(must add i don't have that view myself, it's only hair  ) |
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Marrk said: The odd comments you're getting,it may be cause you're not black and have dreds, and therefore might look bloody ridiculous to some people.
(must add i don't have that view myself, it's only hair )Yeah, those were the sort of comments that I expected. "Um, are you trying to be black? 'Cause, you know you're not, right?" But, while I'm sure some people feel that way, they seem to be keeping it to themselves. The ONLY comments I've gotten (other than, "oooh, your hair looks rad/beautiful/funky") are about how my dreads aren't as filthy as they would have expected. I found that to be odd. And of course, my first reaction to anything odd is, "Gee, I should make a thread on the org about that!"  | |
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