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Reply #30 posted 04/17/03 1:24pm

Rhondab

I give money all the time...
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Reply #31 posted 04/17/03 1:25pm

Rhondab

also, just because you see someone hanging out on the street doesn't mean they are homeless...
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Reply #32 posted 04/17/03 1:28pm

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Rhondab said:

also, just because you see someone hanging out on the street doesn't mean they are homeless...

nod they could be just bummin folks 4 cash, the bastids...mad
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Reply #33 posted 04/17/03 2:02pm

Rhondab

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Rhondab said:

also, just because you see someone hanging out on the street doesn't mean they are homeless...

nod they could be just bummin folks 4 cash, the bastids...mad



exactly...mmm...I need to pay my cell phone bill...hold up...this may not be a bad idea...
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Reply #34 posted 04/17/03 2:21pm

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Slave2daGroove said:

In Detroit I see the homeless everyday.
When they ask me for money, I ask them what for.

If it's food, then I take them to the Deli and buy them a sandwich or soup.



I do the same thing, but 99% of the time when i say come with me and I'll buy the food for you they say nevermind and walk away.I hardly ever give them money. My dad always told me not to because if they by drugs or booze with your money and then overdose your partly responsible for thier deaths. Kinda nutty I know, but I always think about that when i'm in this situation.sad
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Reply #35 posted 04/17/03 2:51pm

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when i lived in dallas i got to where i'd see a lot of the same people everyday..and i certainly couldn't afford to support all of them...

i actually had one guy tell me he panhandled til he had enough to stay in a hotel for the nite...

i tend to give money to the less 'desperate' or 'aggressive' people...

people with a long sob-story, i tend to just say..'sorry..'


once a guy told me it was his birthday & he was just trying to get drunk..so i gave him $20...just cos he was honest...
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Reply #36 posted 04/17/03 2:53pm

MrBliss

i quite often have a conversation with them... and sometimes give them money.. or buy them something to eat
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Reply #37 posted 04/17/03 3:04pm

AzureStar

I give them money... the only one that I've run into was this man who would ride his bike around throughout the year. About four years ago I was going to the store around Christmas time, and he was sitting next to his bike by the entrance to the parking lot... so, I thought maybe he had a flat. Anyway... he didn't. They just moved the dumpster he used to sleep behind so he didn't know where to go. So, I gave him my grocery money and he thanked me and said he was going to go across to the donut shop for a cup of hot coffee and then he was going to treat himself to a warm room at the hotel down the road. We talked some more and come to find out, he was homeless because after his wife died, his step-kids fought and took all the money they had saved and he had no other family to take him in... and on and on and on... anyway... I gave him my cigarettes and the money and off he went and he did go to the donut shop because I drove by a few minutes later and he was sitting in there.

I think about him every winter, because I usually will see him riding his bike down the road, with a trash bag full of something attached to the back, and him in the same sweater he's worn for years. This past year I never did see him... sad
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Reply #38 posted 04/17/03 3:08pm

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Lleena said:

Supernova said:

Lleena said:

pejman said:

Supernova said:

I used to give them money. Not anymore. Now I feed them.




Because of possible drug purchases?


Supernova likes to try out her recipies on unsuspecting people. confused

9s is a bad influence on you. biggrin


You made him eat one of your deep fried dumplings didn't you? He hasn't been seen since. confused

Don't blame the fallout of your tea and milk concoction on me. hmph!
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #39 posted 04/17/03 3:20pm

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AzureStar said:

I give them money... the only one that I've run into was this man who would ride his bike around throughout the year. About four years ago I was going to the store around Christmas time, and he was sitting next to his bike by the entrance to the parking lot... so, I thought maybe he had a flat. Anyway... he didn't. They just moved the dumpster he used to sleep behind so he didn't know where to go. So, I gave him my grocery money and he thanked me and said he was going to go across to the donut shop for a cup of hot coffee and then he was going to treat himself to a warm room at the hotel down the road. We talked some more and come to find out, he was homeless because after his wife died, his step-kids fought and took all the money they had saved and he had no other family to take him in... and on and on and on... anyway... I gave him my cigarettes and the money and off he went and he did go to the donut shop because I drove by a few minutes later and he was sitting in there.

I think about him every winter, because I usually will see him riding his bike down the road, with a trash bag full of something attached to the back, and him in the same sweater he's worn for years. This past year I never did see him... sad

That's a very interesting story. I met a transient once that claimed he had a PHD. He said he had been sued over a few malpractice cases and was to proud to ask for help from any family members. I always wondered if he was honest.He didn't look too shipwrecked. Poor guy,I gave him money and emphasized that he get a meal with it.hmph!
“A poor man waited a thousand years before the gate of paradise. And, while he snatched a little sleep, it opened and shut.”
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Reply #40 posted 04/17/03 3:30pm

AzureStar

PERSIA said:

That's a very interesting story. I met a transient once that claimed he had a PHD. He said he had been sued over a few malpractice cases and was to proud to ask for help from any family members. I always wondered if he was honest.He didn't look too shipwrecked. Poor guy,I gave him money and emphasized that he get a meal with it.hmph!


It's sad what can happen to people. One one hand I think that it is not beyond their control to pick themselves up and get their life back, but on the other hand I can see how it would be difficult to do.

Yeah... emphasizing that he get a meal is a good thing. I don't, however, give money to the guys that walk up to my car in line at the fast food place and ask for money when they smell of alcohol or looked strung out. I roll up my window, crank the radio and pretend to read like I don't see them.
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Reply #41 posted 04/17/03 3:36pm

PhilG

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I do give them money if I have any on me to give.

When I lived in the Village in NYC, there was a man who lived in a box on the corner of my block. I would see him everyday when I would walk to the subway. I would buy him food and bring him paperbacks to read and I'd stop and visit with him and talk about books whenever I could. I think he appreciated the time spent talking and visiting with him even more than the food. He was a very intelligent, kind man who unfortunately let drugs get the better of him and his life.

It was very difficult emotionally living in NYC and seeing so many homeless people every day, and not really being able to do very much to help them in any significant way. I didn't have much money myself when I lived out there, but when I would see someone living in an old box, or wearing a garbage bag clothes, I could NOT not do SOMETHING to help that person in some way. They are PEOPLE with hearts and souls and histories and families somewhere, and they need to know they are still VALUABLE and worthwhile. My heart really goes out to them also because for reasons I'll not go into, I relate to certain elements of their situation. And I also realize that becoming homeless can happen to ANYBODY if the circumstances are right... I thank God for the blessings I've been given and I could never not do something to help somebody out who has fallen on difficult times for whatever the reason.



I get approached everyday.Usually I ignore them.But reading your thread and others will make me reevaluate things.Nice thread.touched
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Reply #42 posted 04/17/03 4:01pm

Handclapsfinga
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Rhondab said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Rhondab said:

also, just because you see someone hanging out on the street doesn't mean they are homeless...

nod they could be just bummin folks 4 cash, the bastids...mad



exactly...mmm...I need to pay my cell phone bill...hold up...this may not be a bad idea...

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Reply #43 posted 04/17/03 4:06pm

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I give when I got it...A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE ARE JUST ONE PAYCHECK AWAY FROM BEING HOMELESS BROTHA!
The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them. -- Mark Twain.

BOB JOHNSON IS PART OF THE PROBLEM!!
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Reply #44 posted 04/17/03 4:31pm

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Actually today at lunch I had an experience. I went to the bank and a woman was standing right outside the bank door. I got irritated cuz it's pretty hard to walk into a bank and come out saying you have no $$$. Then I corrected myself. Whenever I get frustrated or irritated with someone who has nothing I remind myself that I am blessed to be in the position to help someone out. I remind myself that I have incredible wealth and comfort compared to the person who is asking for help.

This was an older woman. Could have been someone's mom. Without a hitch, I gave her $5. I believe that helping others like this is the reason for my blessings...
2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740
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Reply #45 posted 04/17/03 4:34pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Actually today at lunch I had an experience. I went to the bank and a woman was standing right outside the bank door. I got irritated cuz it's pretty hard to walk into a bank and come out saying you have no $$$. Then I corrected myself. Whenever I get frustrated or irritated with someone who has nothing I remind myself that I am blessed to be in the position to help someone out. I remind myself that I have incredible wealth and comfort compared to the person who is asking for help.

This was an older woman. Could have been someone's mom. Without a hitch, I gave her $5. I believe that helping others like this is the reason for my blessings...




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Reply #46 posted 04/17/03 4:48pm

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I GIVE THEM WHUT EVER I GOT TO GIVE AT THAT TIME.
SOMETIMES I HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT IT AIN'T MY LIFE
AND GET OFF MY 'HIGH HORSE' ABOUT WHUT THEY GONNA DO WITH THE MONEY.
DUDE CAME TO ME AT THE GAS PUMP AND SAID "MAN I GOT A DRINKIN PROBLEM, AND I NEED A DRINK RIGHT NOW, COULD YOU HELP ME OUT WITH SOME CHANGE, ANYTHING?"
I GAVE HIM A COUPLE OF BUCKS FOR HIS HONESTY.
NOW
IS WHUT I DID HELPIN IN HIS DISTRUCTION??? PROLLY.
DO I FEEL I DID THE WRONG THING? DEFFINATELY NOT!!!
I AM King BAD a.k.a. BAD,
YOU EITHER WANNA BE ME, OR BE JUST LIKE ME

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Reply #47 posted 04/17/03 4:58pm

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00769BAD said:

I GIVE THEM WHUT EVER I GOT TO GIVE AT THAT TIME.
SOMETIMES I HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT IT AIN'T MY LIFE
AND GET OFF MY 'HIGH HORSE' ABOUT WHUT THEY GONNA DO WITH THE MONEY.
DUDE CAME TO ME AT THE GAS PUMP AND SAID "MAN I GOT A DRINKIN PROBLEM, AND I NEED A DRINK RIGHT NOW, COULD YOU HELP ME OUT WITH SOME CHANGE, ANYTHING?"
I GAVE HIM A COUPLE OF BUCKS FOR HIS HONESTY.
NOW
IS WHUT I DID HELPIN IN HIS DISTRUCTION??? PROLLY.
DO I FEEL I DID THE WRONG THING? DEFFINATELY NOT!!!


The way I look at it is that you aren't going to be able to save this person completely. You are only going to be able to bring a flash of relief/happiness/joy. If they are going to drink and do drugs, better to not have them in the position of having to steal cuz they have no money. And you know what, if my life were in such a hopeless situation, I'd probably want a beer real bad too. I figure as long as you do your part, what the other person does is their business.

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Reply #48 posted 04/17/03 5:04pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

00769BAD said:

I GIVE THEM WHUT EVER I GOT TO GIVE AT THAT TIME.
SOMETIMES I HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT IT AIN'T MY LIFE
AND GET OFF MY 'HIGH HORSE' ABOUT WHUT THEY GONNA DO WITH THE MONEY.
DUDE CAME TO ME AT THE GAS PUMP AND SAID "MAN I GOT A DRINKIN PROBLEM, AND I NEED A DRINK RIGHT NOW, COULD YOU HELP ME OUT WITH SOME CHANGE, ANYTHING?"
I GAVE HIM A COUPLE OF BUCKS FOR HIS HONESTY.
NOW
IS WHUT I DID HELPIN IN HIS DISTRUCTION??? PROLLY.
DO I FEEL I DID THE WRONG THING? DEFFINATELY NOT!!!


The way I look at it is that you aren't going to be able to save this person completely. You are only going to be able to bring a flash of relief/happiness/joy. If they are going to drink and do drugs, better to not have them in the position of having to steal cuz they have no money. And you know what, if my life were in such a hopeless situation, I'd probably want a beer real bad. I figure as long as you do your part, what the other person does is their business.


WE AGREE ON SO MANY THINGS...

"if my life were in such a hopeless situation, I'd probably want a beer real bad"

I HATE TO SEE PEOPLE LOOKIN LIKE THEY GOT THEIR BACKS TO THE WALL...
I DON'T DO THE REPEATERS THOUGH... IF YOU HIT ME UP GOING UP THE STREET AND FORGET THAT I JUST GAVE YOU SOMETHING
THAT'S ON YOU...
I AM King BAD a.k.a. BAD,
YOU EITHER WANNA BE ME, OR BE JUST LIKE ME

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Reply #49 posted 04/17/03 5:50pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


The way I look at it is that you aren't going to be able to save this person completely. You are only going to be able to bring a flash of relief/happiness/joy. If they are going to drink and do drugs, better to not have them in the position of having to steal cuz they have no money. And you know what, if my life were in such a hopeless situation, I'd probably want a beer real bad too. I figure as long as you do your part, what the other person does is their business.



Well put. I just like to show them somehow that I do recognize their humanity and their suffering, and I care. I too am going for that flash of pleasure/relief/happiness that they might (or might not) experience. I will often stop and converse if I have time, and often these people are mentally ill or have had great misfortune in their lives. I think it is rare that a person is homeless do to laziness.

As far as using money to buy drugs, I agree with you that it is their choice at that point. And I've been told that one of the main reasons many homeless people start drinking heavily is because it helps them to sleep, and it's awfully hard to sleep out in the cold. While I think that's sad, I can understand.
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Reply #50 posted 04/17/03 5:55pm

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Reply #51 posted 04/17/03 6:19pm

crazyhorse

Once a week I walk the boardwalk and hand out about 30-50 lunches.(sandwich,chips,cookies,fruit,juice etc...)to the people who need it.

I've heard that the U.K has some really good programs for homeless etc...Here in the states your on your own.
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Reply #52 posted 04/17/03 7:44pm

AzureStar

crazyhorse said:

Once a week I walk the boardwalk and hand out about 30-50 lunches.(sandwich,chips,cookies,fruit,juice etc...)to the people who need it.

I've heard that the U.K has some really good programs for homeless etc...Here in the states your on your own.


That's extremely kind of you...

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Reply #53 posted 04/17/03 8:01pm

crazyhorse

AzureStar said:

crazyhorse said:

Once a week I walk the boardwalk and hand out about 30-50 lunches.(sandwich,chips,cookies,fruit,juice etc...)to the people who need it.

I've heard that the U.K has some really good programs for homeless etc...Here in the states your on your own.


That's extremely kind of you...

smile


yeah it gives you a good feeling.plus I've got some bad karma to clear up.

where I live is a trip,I mean you have the rich and homeless living among one another pretending the other doesnt exist.
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Reply #54 posted 04/17/03 9:23pm

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crazyhorse said:

AzureStar said:

crazyhorse said:

Once a week I walk the boardwalk and hand out about 30-50 lunches.(sandwich,chips,cookies,fruit,juice etc...)to the people who need it.

I've heard that the U.K has some really good programs for homeless etc...Here in the states your on your own.


That's extremely kind of you...

smile


yeah it gives you a good feeling.plus I've got some bad karma to clear up.

where I live is a trip,I mean you have the rich and homeless living among one another pretending the other doesnt exist.




I lived in Venice Beach a few years and I agree with you about the rich and the homeless.
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Reply #55 posted 04/17/03 9:25pm

AzureStar

crazyhorse said:

AzureStar said:

crazyhorse said:

Once a week I walk the boardwalk and hand out about 30-50 lunches.(sandwich,chips,cookies,fruit,juice etc...)to the people who need it.

I've heard that the U.K has some really good programs for homeless etc...Here in the states your on your own.


That's extremely kind of you...

smile


yeah it gives you a good feeling.plus I've got some bad karma to clear up.

where I live is a trip,I mean you have the rich and homeless living among one another pretending the other doesnt exist.



That's sad... the last thing you said there. It shouldn't be that way... but it is, eh?
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Reply #56 posted 04/17/03 9:41pm

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generally i tend to give money to homeless people are around my age(teens/20's) ...even tho homeless can be fuckin crazy&dangerous sometimes
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Reply #57 posted 04/18/03 1:17am

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I don't give them anything. I know that's terrible. But I see at least a dozen homeless people every day and I just don't have that kind of cash-flow.

If I have food with me, I do give it away. Last year my friends and I used to steal tons of sandwiches and fruits out of the dining hall and give them to the homeless.

My heart melts when I see an animal with them, though. And that's when I'm more likely to give them something. I know that's also terrible and I'll surely get flamed for it. I guess I just have more compassion for animals than people.

(I am all set for Hell.)
I mean, like, where is the sun?
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Reply #58 posted 04/18/03 6:23am

Anxiety

Between living in New York and living in Chicago, about 80% of the time the people begging me for money tend to be wearing more expensive clothes than anything I own. Though if someone really looks as though he/she needs help, I know where to direct someone for food, shelter and counseling. One of the best experiences in my life was working at the front desk of a community center, where it was my JOB to find homeless walk-ins the things they needed.

Meanwhile, one time a man actually came up to me and said he was collecting donations for the "Beautify Cabrini Green Project."

Dirty, please!






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