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Thread started 01/31/18 10:44pm

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The New Mutants

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Just saw the trailer for this movie. Confused, is it a super hero movie or a horror movie? confuse hrmph

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Reply #1 posted 02/01/18 12:53am

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It's a movie set in the same universe as the X-Men movies as far as I understand. Which kind of makes it pointless seeing as the movie rights for X-Men are back with Marvel and the whole series is most likely going to be rebooted.
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Reply #2 posted 02/01/18 5:21am

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EmmaMcG said:

It's a movie set in the same universe as the X-Men movies as far as I understand. Which kind of makes it pointless seeing as the movie rights for X-Men are back with Marvel and the whole series is most likely going to be rebooted.

But is it a super hero movie or a horror movie?

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Reply #3 posted 02/01/18 7:02am

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kpowers said:



EmmaMcG said:


It's a movie set in the same universe as the X-Men movies as far as I understand. Which kind of makes it pointless seeing as the movie rights for X-Men are back with Marvel and the whole series is most likely going to be rebooted.

But is it a super hero movie or a horror movie?



It's more of a horror movie, or at least that's how it's being promoted, but I doubt it will actually be scary in any way though.
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Reply #4 posted 02/01/18 9:29am

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No more comic book shit.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #5 posted 02/01/18 10:45am

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EmmaMcG said:


kpowers said:

But is it a super hero movie or a horror movie?

It's more of a horror movie, or at least that's how it's being promoted, but I doubt it will actually be scary in any way though.


That was the opinion of test audiences and why the release date has been pushed back to 2019--to make it scarier.

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Reply #6 posted 02/01/18 11:24am

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EmmaMcG said:

kpowers said:

But is it a super hero movie or a horror movie?

It's more of a horror movie, or at least that's how it's being promoted, but I doubt it will actually be scary in any way though.

https://www.cbr.com/demon...explained/

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If they go the route of horror, I hope they do many obvious nods to artist Bill Sienkiewicz and his early work on the series. The first few issues of the series are a bit silly/standard comic fare but once Sienkiewicz started doing full issues as "the artist" (not with an inker, team, etc. just Mr. Sienkiewicz doing the thing) then the comic got really interesting, profound and actually quite scary.

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Reply #7 posted 02/20/18 6:18pm

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Warlock AND ILYANA FTW

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Reply #8 posted 02/20/18 6:48pm

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True, the alien Warlock can suck the life out of any organic being. Also the sister of X-Men and now movie Deadpool's Colossus can warp into a demonic world where her character grew up as a child slave/apprentice to a demon sorcerer. Plenty of room for scary here.
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Reply #9 posted 02/20/18 6:50pm

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StrangeButTrue said:

True, the alien Warlock can suck the life out of any organic being. Also the sister of X-Men and now movie Deadpool's Colossus can warp into a demonic world where her character grew up as a child slave/apprentice to a demon sorcerer. Plenty of room for scary here.

I edited.

Lockheed better be up in there or I'm going to riot.



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Reply #10 posted 02/21/18 6:19am

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Haha nice on JerseyKRS! Also the character Wolfsbane is a freakin' werewolf raised by a strictly orthodox Scottish priest. Now that could be scary!

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Reply #11 posted 02/24/18 12:49pm

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The plan is to do a trilogy of New Mutants movies, set in the X-Men movie universe, that are all horror movies, but all very different, homaging different styles of horror movies. If the Disney/Fox thing happens, it seems unlikely that this plan will come to fruition.

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Reply #12 posted 02/24/18 3:57pm

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djThunderfunk said:

The plan is to do a trilogy of New Mutants movies, set in the X-Men movie universe, that are all horror movies, but all very different, homaging different styles of horror movies. If the Disney/Fox thing happens, it seems unlikely that this plan will come to fruition.



I thought Disney already agreed the deal. Either way, if Marvel really want to use the X-Men in the Avengers movies then I'm sure they will and the X-Men Universe will be quickly forgotten about. Aside from Logan, the X-Men movies have been going downhill since X-Men 2. Logan was a perfect way to end the series. The only logical option is to restart the entire thing within the MCU.
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Reply #13 posted 02/24/18 4:54pm

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EmmaMcG said:

djThunderfunk said:

The plan is to do a trilogy of New Mutants movies, set in the X-Men movie universe, that are all horror movies, but all very different, homaging different styles of horror movies. If the Disney/Fox thing happens, it seems unlikely that this plan will come to fruition.

I thought Disney already agreed the deal. Either way, if Marvel really want to use the X-Men in the Avengers movies then I'm sure they will and the X-Men Universe will be quickly forgotten about. Aside from Logan, the X-Men movies have been going downhill since X-Men 2. Logan was a perfect way to end the series. The only logical option is to restart the entire thing within the MCU.


Disney did agree to it but it has to go through some kind of legal approval procedure which is said to take up to a year and a half. In the meantime, FOX is going to keep doing what they do.

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Reply #14 posted 02/25/18 1:14am

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djThunderfunk said:



EmmaMcG said:


djThunderfunk said:

The plan is to do a trilogy of New Mutants movies, set in the X-Men movie universe, that are all horror movies, but all very different, homaging different styles of horror movies. If the Disney/Fox thing happens, it seems unlikely that this plan will come to fruition.



I thought Disney already agreed the deal. Either way, if Marvel really want to use the X-Men in the Avengers movies then I'm sure they will and the X-Men Universe will be quickly forgotten about. Aside from Logan, the X-Men movies have been going downhill since X-Men 2. Logan was a perfect way to end the series. The only logical option is to restart the entire thing within the MCU.


Disney did agree to it but it has to go through some kind of legal approval procedure which is said to take up to a year and a half. In the meantime, FOX is going to keep doing what they do.



I see. I suppose with a deal that big there's bound to be a lot of paperwork.

Still, it seems a bit weird that Fox would continue to plan movies in a series which will be forgotten about as soon as the deal is done.
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EmmaMcG said:

djThunderfunk said:


Disney did agree to it but it has to go through some kind of legal approval procedure which is said to take up to a year and a half. In the meantime, FOX is going to keep doing what they do.

I see. I suppose with a deal that big there's bound to be a lot of paperwork. Still, it seems a bit weird that Fox would continue to plan movies in a series which will be forgotten about as soon as the deal is done.


I guess they have to keep the machine running, people employed, etc..


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Reply #16 posted 02/25/18 7:29am

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djThunderfunk said:



EmmaMcG said:


djThunderfunk said:



Disney did agree to it but it has to go through some kind of legal approval procedure which is said to take up to a year and a half. In the meantime, FOX is going to keep doing what they do.



I see. I suppose with a deal that big there's bound to be a lot of paperwork. Still, it seems a bit weird that Fox would continue to plan movies in a series which will be forgotten about as soon as the deal is done.


I guess they have to keep the machine running, people employed, etc..




From an audience perspective it doesn't make sense for them to forget ahead with the series at this point. Why bother getting invested in these characters when you know that it will ultimately lead nowhere.
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Reply #17 posted 02/25/18 8:31am

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EmmaMcG said:

djThunderfunk said:


I guess they have to keep the machine running, people employed, etc..


From an audience perspective it doesn't make sense for them to forget ahead with the series at this point. Why bother getting invested in these characters when you know that it will ultimately lead nowhere.


Not if they make movies that exist on their own whether they are part of a series or not.

If Deadpool get's integrated in the MCU, the first Deadpool movie will still be a good movie even if it isn't a part of MCU.

Spider-Man 2 is a great movie. Spider-Man Homecoming being part of the MCU doesn't change that.

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Reply #18 posted 02/25/18 10:30am

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djThunderfunk said:



EmmaMcG said:


djThunderfunk said:



I guess they have to keep the machine running, people employed, etc..




From an audience perspective it doesn't make sense for them to forget ahead with the series at this point. Why bother getting invested in these characters when you know that it will ultimately lead nowhere.


Not if they make movies that exist on their own whether they are part of a series or not.

If Deadpool get's integrated in the MCU, the first Deadpool movie will still be a good movie even if it isn't a part of MCU.

Spider-Man 2 is a great movie. Spider-Man Homecoming being part of the MCU doesn't change that.



The difference is that when they made Spider-Man 2 the MCU situation didn't exist and they were planning Spider-Man 3 (and 4). Now, with the X-Men and more specifically the New Mutants, its senseless planning more movies in the series because they'll likely never be made. The New Mutants is as far as they'll get. There won't be a sequel because once Marvel get the rights they will be more interested in developing the X-Men reboot so they can have Wolverine and co line up alongside The Avengers. Production on that Gambit movie likely won't get much further either. Deadpool is different because of the kind of movie it is. They'll never have him show up in the Avengers so he'll continue on in his own series but the X-Men is a big property that will no doubt join the MCU.
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EmmaMcG said:

djThunderfunk said:


Not if they make movies that exist on their own whether they are part of a series or not.

If Deadpool get's integrated in the MCU, the first Deadpool movie will still be a good movie even if it isn't a part of MCU.

Spider-Man 2 is a great movie. Spider-Man Homecoming being part of the MCU doesn't change that.

The difference is that when they made Spider-Man 2 the MCU situation didn't exist and they were planning Spider-Man 3 (and 4). Now, with the X-Men and more specifically the New Mutants, its senseless planning more movies in the series because they'll likely never be made. The New Mutants is as far as they'll get. There won't be a sequel because once Marvel get the rights they will be more interested in developing the X-Men reboot so they can have Wolverine and co line up alongside The Avengers. Production on that Gambit movie likely won't get much further either. Deadpool is different because of the kind of movie it is. They'll never have him show up in the Avengers so he'll continue on in his own series but the X-Men is a big property that will no doubt join the MCU.


But FOX isn't suspending production on upcoming X-Men projects. They have a Deadpool and an X-Men movie coming this year, New Mutants coming next year, X-Force will start filming later this year, Gambit, Multiple Man & X-23 are still in preproduction, and they just announced (after the Disney deal was announced) that they are fast tracking a Kitty Pryde movie. None of their X-Men slate is on pause because of the Disney deal.

BTW, Deadpool is one of Marvel's biggest characters, appears in at least 3 or 4 comics a month, and until a few months ago was a member of the Avengers. Not only that, but after the Disney deal was announced, Disney stated that they will continue to make Rated R Deadpool movies after the acquisition was complete.

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djThunderfunk said:



EmmaMcG said:


djThunderfunk said:



Not if they make movies that exist on their own whether they are part of a series or not.

If Deadpool get's integrated in the MCU, the first Deadpool movie will still be a good movie even if it isn't a part of MCU.

Spider-Man 2 is a great movie. Spider-Man Homecoming being part of the MCU doesn't change that.



The difference is that when they made Spider-Man 2 the MCU situation didn't exist and they were planning Spider-Man 3 (and 4). Now, with the X-Men and more specifically the New Mutants, its senseless planning more movies in the series because they'll likely never be made. The New Mutants is as far as they'll get. There won't be a sequel because once Marvel get the rights they will be more interested in developing the X-Men reboot so they can have Wolverine and co line up alongside The Avengers. Production on that Gambit movie likely won't get much further either. Deadpool is different because of the kind of movie it is. They'll never have him show up in the Avengers so he'll continue on in his own series but the X-Men is a big property that will no doubt join the MCU.


But FOX isn't suspending production on upcoming X-Men projects. They have a Deadpool and an X-Men movie coming this year, New Mutants coming next year, X-Force will start filming later this year, Gambit, Multiple Man & X-23 are still in preproduction, and they just announced (after the Disney deal was announced) that they are fast tracking a Kitty Pryde movie. None of their X-Men slate is on pause because of the Disney deal.

BTW, Deadpool is one of Marvel's biggest characters, appears in at least 3 or 4 comics a month, and until a few months ago was a member of the Avengers. Not only that, but after the Disney deal was announced, Disney stated that they will continue to make Rated R Deadpool movies after the acquisition was complete.



But when the deal goes through those X-Men movies will be meaningless because they're all going to be rebooted so they can appear in Avengers movies. So, as an audience member, why would I bother going to see the first part in a proposed trilogy of New Mutant movies when more than likely the second and third part will never be made. It's like watching the first act of a play and not seeing the middle or end.

Like I said, the Deadpool movies can continue on because I don't see them adding him to the MCU. The character doesn't work in that world. It's too goofy. So yeah, they'll continue the Deadpool series as its own thing separate from the MCU. But the likes of Wolverine and Rogue will most definitely be included in future Avengers movies and I'm sure Marvel Studios will want to introduce their own versions of the characters so where does that leave the ones from the Fox-produced movies?
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EmmaMcG said:

djThunderfunk said:


But FOX isn't suspending production on upcoming X-Men projects. They have a Deadpool and an X-Men movie coming this year, New Mutants coming next year, X-Force will start filming later this year, Gambit, Multiple Man & X-23 are still in preproduction, and they just announced (after the Disney deal was announced) that they are fast tracking a Kitty Pryde movie. None of their X-Men slate is on pause because of the Disney deal.

BTW, Deadpool is one of Marvel's biggest characters, appears in at least 3 or 4 comics a month, and until a few months ago was a member of the Avengers. Not only that, but after the Disney deal was announced, Disney stated that they will continue to make Rated R Deadpool movies after the acquisition was complete.

But when the deal goes through those X-Men movies will be meaningless because they're all going to be rebooted so they can appear in Avengers movies. So, as an audience member, why would I bother going to see the first part in a proposed trilogy of New Mutant movies when more than likely the second and third part will never be made. It's like watching the first act of a play and not seeing the middle or end. Like I said, the Deadpool movies can continue on because I don't see them adding him to the MCU. The character doesn't work in that world. It's too goofy. So yeah, they'll continue the Deadpool series as its own thing separate from the MCU. But the likes of Wolverine and Rogue will most definitely be included in future Avengers movies and I'm sure Marvel Studios will want to introduce their own versions of the characters so where does that leave the ones from the Fox-produced movies?


If the first New Mutants only works as the first part of a trilogy, then you may have a point. If it's a complete story itself, with plans to do more stories, then I don't see your point at all. I don't see superhero movies (within or without the MCU) as having value only as part of an overall series. The best ones are good all by themselves. If they also enhance a larger story as part of a series, that's just gravy.

Since the X-Men series haven't even bothered to maintain a cohesive continuity from one movie to the next, much less for the series as a whole, I'm interested in each movie individually.

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FOX just today announced that dispite the Disney deal, they are moving forward on a Silver Surfer movie AND a Dr. Doom movie as well as all of those that have been previously announced:

"When Disney bought 20th Century Fox and all of its movie and TV properties everyone immediately began speculating how this would affect the upcoming lineup of Fox’s comic book movies. Apparently, the studio hasn’t slowed down for a second, and if anything, they are moving full steam ahead with a slew of new movies, including some featuring iconic Marvel characters."

"The report from THR features quotes from sources saying the studio is going “100 miles an hour” in developing a slew of new comic book movies. Among them are a Silver Surfer movie with writer Brian K. Vaughn (“Y: The Last Man”) attached, and a movie about Doctor Doom from Noah Hawley (FARGO, LEGION). As well, the planned Kitty Pryde movie we’ve been hearing about is still on the docket, while the upcoming NEW MUTANTS is doing reshoots to add a new character to the mix, and is still set for February 22, 2019. Yes, the character is Pennywise, and he will be terrifying the young mutants."

"That is not all, my comic book/movie-loving friends. As for the Channing Tatum GAMBIT movie, the studio is still looking for a director to helm the green-lighted film. This comes after PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN director Gore Verbinski dropped out recently, leaving the ship without a captain. Then there’s the potentially huge X-FORCE movie, which the report says will start shooting this fall."

"The phrase "business as usual" is being tossed around at Fox, and based on all these plans, that seems to be the case. The Disney deal probably won't take effect for some time, and then it will take even more time after that for some characters to be integrated into the MCU, if they ever will. For now, anyone digging what Fox has been doing with DEADPOOL and LOGAN can rest assured now that some of these new movies could be on the way."

http://www.joblo.com/movi...oom-215-02





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Reply #23 posted 02/27/18 12:48pm

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Same as the Old Mutants?

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djThunderfunk said:

FOX just today announced that dispite the Disney deal, they are moving forward on a Silver Surfer movie AND a Dr. Doom movie as well as all of those that have been previously announced:

"When Disney bought 20th Century Fox and all of its movie and TV properties everyone immediately began speculating how this would affect the upcoming lineup of Fox’s comic book movies. Apparently, the studio hasn’t slowed down for a second, and if anything, they are moving full steam ahead with a slew of new movies, including some featuring iconic Marvel characters."

"The report from THR features quotes from sources saying the studio is going “100 miles an hour” in developing a slew of new comic book movies. Among them are a Silver Surfer movie with writer Brian K. Vaughn (“Y: The Last Man”) attached, and a movie about Doctor Doom from Noah Hawley (FARGO, LEGION). As well, the planned Kitty Pryde movie we’ve been hearing about is still on the docket, while the upcoming NEW MUTANTS is doing reshoots to add a new character to the mix, and is still set for February 22, 2019. Yes, the character is Pennywise, and he will be terrifying the young mutants."

"That is not all, my comic book/movie-loving friends. As for the Channing Tatum GAMBIT movie, the studio is still looking for a director to helm the green-lighted film. This comes after PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN director Gore Verbinski dropped out recently, leaving the ship without a captain. Then there’s the potentially huge X-FORCE movie, which the report says will start shooting this fall."

"The phrase "business as usual" is being tossed around at Fox, and based on all these plans, that seems to be the case. The Disney deal probably won't take effect for some time, and then it will take even more time after that for some characters to be integrated into the MCU, if they ever will. For now, anyone digging what Fox has been doing with DEADPOOL and LOGAN can rest assured now that some of these new movies could be on the way."

http://www.joblo.com/movi...oom-215-02





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As a dork it is hard to accept an 'X-Force' movie concept happening concurrently with The New Mutants. And its crazy that a Legion tv series exists and a Deadpool movie exists as both stem from The New Mutants.

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Evidently, FOX is still planning 3 X-Men universe movies for 2019 AND 3 for 2020.

https://www.cbr.com/fox-x...vie-plans/

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